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Re: Carbon Black drawings?
On 7/2/20 6:02 PM, Bud Rindfleisch wrote:
Can anyone point me to plans or drawings for a carbon black hopper?There are scale drawings and photos in "Mainline Modeler", May 1993, beginning on page 5, by Martin Loftin. Cheers, / Bruce /
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Rails and Hoists for Spools of Rayon
Todd Sullivan
Rayon was made from cellulose fiber, and I know there were mills in the Pacific NW in NW Washington State served by the Northern Pacific and in W Va served by the Western Maryland, IIRC. I'd be wondering if the PRR cars were for another mill, perhaps in the Northern Tier of Pa which was heavily forested.
Todd Sullivan
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Re: Pullman Standard cushioned underframe question for PS-1 cars
George Eichelberger
Thanks for getting the SRHA/Southern 50’ box car book! There are less than a dozen left out of 250 or so that were printed for us by the Norfolk Southern print shop at cost. They are available in the SRHA “The Grab” Company Store @ www.srha.net
I’ll finish the second 50’ box car book (1962-82) after I can get the completely redone 40’ box car book done and published. Aside from a lot of new data and photos, all the various Southern 40’ box car rebuilds will be included. Here, from the Southern Railway Historical Assoc. archives is the CUF underframe drawing…the tiff file is 8.6MB vs the jpeg @ 2.2MB, I trust you can see and read all of the dimensional data. The correspondence between P-S and the Southern is worth posting when I locate it. One of the two WP cars was “bashed” by a hopper car loaded with sand multiple times to test the cushion hardware. There was some damage done but I believe the test car was repaired and then sold to WP. The link to Google Drive is: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fZqiV6MKvum3kWpZFjVAK77c3aTyrwU8/view?usp=sharing Don’t rely on the Google Drive viewer, download the file and look at it on your PC. Ike
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Re: Photo: MP End-Door Boxcar 45396
Ed Hawkins
Bob, Thank you for posting this photo. For those interested, following is some history. MP 45396 originated as one of 250 (MP 79200-79499) 40-ton XA single-sheathed auto cars built ca. 5-29 by Mount Vernon Car Mfg. Co. job number 7243: 40’-6” inside length (listed on MP diagram as 40’-7 1/16”), 10’-2” inside height, 12’-1” side door openings, 3751 cu. ft. capacity, Youngstown Steel Doors with Union Duplex fixtures, Dreadnaught end doors at the “A” end, 3-section Dreadnaught “B” end, Std. Ry. Equipment Mfg. Co. radial roof, ARA spring-plank trucks. In April-June 1941, 200 of 246 remaining cars were modified in a number of ways at MoPac’s DeSoto, Mo., car shops: a. Removed the auxiliary doors & reconfigured as single-door cars with 6’ clear door openings. b. Resheathed the nominal 6’ auxiliary door area & added a new diagonal brace resulting in asymmetrical Howe truss sides. c. Replaced original vertical-staff hand brakes with Universal XL power hand brakes (if not before). d. Upgraded with AB brakes (if not before). e. “A” End doors sealed closed. f. “A” end lining added, reducing to 40-3” inside length & 3724 cu. ft. capacity. g. Renumbered MP 45251-45450. In 1942 an additional 31 cars received the same modifications, followed by 13 more in 1945-1946 to make a total of 244 modified cars in expanded series MP 45251-45494 as of Jan. 1947. However, two cars had been lost thru attrition such that the maximum quantity reported in the ORER was 242 cars. The 1/55 ORER reported 235 cars in revenue service. A steady decline of cars in revenue service began in the 2nd half of 1956 & continued thru 1960: 203 reported in 1/57, 114 in 1/58, 70 in 1/59, 28 in 1/60. Two cars from the original series 79200-79499 remained in service from late 1946 thru 10/55. These final two cars were removed from revenue service between 10/55 & 6/56. The MP diagram for 45251-45494 makes no mention of the cars having the “A” end doors sealed closed, nor does ORER reporting. The diagram does denote a difference in the relative sizes of the “A” and “B” end sill channels, being the same as the original auto car diagram. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: Apparently, Boston & Maine boxcars made it to Florida
Todd Sullivan
Or a load of canned cranberry sauce, or sardines (from Maine) or B&M Baked Beans (num, num, good!)!
Todd Sullivan
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ACL 27103 40ft steel boxcar
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
ACL 27103 40ft steel boxcar
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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SAL 15709 40ft boxcar, Jacksonville FL
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
SAL 15709 40ft boxcar, Jacksonville FL
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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I-GN 14171 auto boxcar, Jacksonville FL
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
I-GN 14171 auto boxcar, Jacksonville
FL
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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SAL 89728 40ft ds vent box in 1954
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
SAL 89728 40ft ds vent box in 1954 at Jacksonville
FL
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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SAL 9050 steel auto boxcar
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
SAL 9050 steel auto boxcar
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: UNION TEXAS NATURAL GAS tank car and WFE wood ice reefer
Tony Thompson
Claus Schlund wrote:
The late Warren Mayfield, who supervised wreck clearance on the P&LE for years, said that inevitably the worst accidents happened on bridges or fills, usually at night, and typically while it was raining. Tony Thompson
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Shipping watermelons from Florida...
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Shipping watermelons from Florida...
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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UNION TEXAS NATURAL GAS tank car and WFE wood ice reefer
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
UNION TEXAS NATURAL GAS tank car and WFE wood ice
reefer in Tallahassee, FL 1964
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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TEXACO tank car string
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
TEXACO tank car string, Miami FL, 1940
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Rails and Hoists for Spools of Rayon
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Group; To add:
Here is an example of the PRR’s “silk” car fleet. Not lost on me is the car number, right next to a rayon car number of 1964.
Note the interior dedicated racking equipment. The obvious overhead rail is how the racks were slid into the channel for following movement in-car. I am not sure how and if these were modified for rayon shipment.
This is one of the cars recommended to Tangent for inclusion in their offering: early X31A with transverse reservoir and early end arrangement.
During WW2, the silk cars would be moving to parachute manufacturers for the war effort.
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 1:50 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Rails and Hoists for Spools of Rayon
Tom;
I am the one who provided that research, but have been unable to verify who generated the loads, or a photo that shows stenciling for routing.
I suspect these may be re-purposed “silk” cars, but have not put in the time to examine various ORERs for car numbers.
For 1964:
Yet another research project….
Elden Gatwood
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of tmkprr1954 via groups.io
Good Day,
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Re: Shipping sugar cane by rail...
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Several list members asked about unloading the
sugar cane cars. I don't have that answer, but this is how they were
loaded!
Claus Schlund
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SOU 129533 bulk-head end flat car
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
SOU 129533 bulk-head end flat car, in 1959 in
Jacsonville FL, on SAL.
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Apparently, Boston & Maine boxcars made it to Florida
Schuyler Larrabee
Of course, Stanley was and is located in Connecticut, so a New Haven box car would be more likely . . .
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 2:44 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Apparently, Boston & Maine boxcars made it to Florida
Doug Harding wrote:
Good example, and the railroad serving Stanley would have wanted to provide good service, thus possibly a Grade A home-road box car. But that yardmaster, having a Stanley request for an empty to, say, Seattle, would be looking at his western-road empties -- or midwestern roads, so the load could be routed via them. He almost certainly wouldn't use a New England road car if his railroad interchanged with that road, because he could send it home directly via the nearest interchange. Of course, in boom times, cars were in short supply and you would use ANY car you could find.
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Re: Apparently, Boston & Maine boxcars made it to Florida
Tony Thompson
Doug Harding wrote:
Good example, and the railroad serving Stanley would have wanted to provide good service, thus possibly a Grade A home-road box car. But that yardmaster, having a Stanley request for an empty to, say, Seattle, would be looking at his western-road empties -- or midwestern roads, so the load could be routed via them. He almost certainly wouldn't use a New England road car if his railroad interchanged with that road, because he could send it home directly via the nearest interchange. Of course, in boom times, cars were in short supply and you would use ANY car you could find. Tony Thompson
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Photo: Carbon Black Car?
Tony Thompson
Steve SANDIFER wrote:
Google and you shall find. Tony Thompson
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