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D&RGW kits are now online

Pierre Oliver
 

See the blog post
http://elgincarshops.blogspot.com/2020/07/a-wee-bit-premature.html

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: Carbon Black drawings?

Richard Townsend
 

The May 1993 Mainline Modeler has plans for a carbon black car. These are the earlier 3,000 cubic foot type. There also was an article by Eric Stevens in an early MR that has VERY basic plans and was reprinted in the Easy to Build Model Railroad Freight Cars book from Kalmbach (1971).

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Bud Rindfleisch <BlackDiamondRR@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2020 3:02 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Carbon Black drawings?

Can anyone point me to plans or drawings for a carbon black hopper? Asking for a friend who wants to scratchbuild one in S scale.
     Thanks in advance,
      Bud Rindfleisch


Re: SnT 2020 Underframes

Mont Switzer
 

Thanks John.  Will be watching for it.  Mont Switzer 



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-------- Original message --------
From: John Barry <northbaylines@...>
Date: 7/3/20 12:46 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Shake-N-Take <shake-n-take@groups.io>, STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] SnT 2020 Underframes

Good news for the thirteen folks that identified themselves in need of an underframe for the 2020 Shake and Take Bx-34 project:  your underframes are the mail for priority mail delivery.  This still leaves seven folks who received kits at CCB that are still missing their underframes, but I have no clue who you are.  

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


Re: Photo: L&N End-Door Boxcar

Steven D Johnson
 

Photos attached of 2 other cars from the group.

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2020 1:39 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: L&N End-Door Boxcar

 

Photo: L&N End-Door Boxcar

A Chuck Zeiler photo:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/chuckzeiler/38481886355/in/album-72157656279726732/

Click to enlarge photo.

Built 12-1940. Original number series 99800 to 99999.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: DUPX 1406

Dave Parker
 

Of course Tony.  My comment implied a question: was there some reason that DuPont would have had the cars built with what, at that time, would have been about as big a dome as you could find on a 10,000-gal car?

Turns out there was (from the 1926 ICC Supplement No. 2 to the 1924 "Transportation of Explosives...." regs) :



--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: DUPX 1406

Richard Townsend
 

The dome size is a great clue. In the 1955 tank car tariff I find six cars with 454 gallon domes of 10,000 gallon capacity, four at 10,603+ (numbers 2250, 2251, 2254, and 4147) and two at 10,541+ (8009 and 9305). I wonder if any of them were formerly 1406 or its brethren.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: David via groups.io <jaydeet2001@...>
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2020 2:34 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] DUPX 1406

The 1936 Tank Car Tariff has a DUPX series 1400-1409, approximately
10,000 gallons capacity with a 454 gallon dome. There are no cars of
like dimensions in 1955, so it is likely DuPont sold or transferred this
group at some point.

David Thompson





Re: DUPX 1406

Tony Thompson
 

Dave Parker wrote:

It's also in my 1930 ORER, class TMU, for ethyl chloride service.  That's quite a big dome; I'd have to dig into the ICC regs from the 1930s to see if/why the properties of EC mandated such an expansion volume.

      Many cars with bigger domes were simply "buyer choice," as the regulations only set a minimum dome volume.

Tony Thompson




Re: DUPX 1406

Dave Parker
 

It's also in my 1930 ORER, class TMU, for ethyl chloride service.  That's quite a big dome; I'd have to dig into the ICC regs from the 1930s to see if/why the properties of EC mandated such an expansion volume.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


DUPX 1406

David
 

The 1936 Tank Car Tariff has a DUPX series 1400-1409, approximately 10,000 gallons capacity with a 454 gallon dome. There are no cars of like dimensions in 1955, so it is likely DuPont sold or transferred this group at some point.

David Thompson


Freight Car Photos

Andy Laurent
 

A nice collection from F. R. Ritzman at the Lake States Railway Archive.

Plenty of nice stuff in there...including an old LNE gon, a USAX flatcar delivering a single M35 truck, and plenty of other goodies. Enjoy!

Andy L.
Wisconsin


Re: DUPX 1406

Richard Townsend
 

10,000 gallon, not 1,000 gallon.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Townsend via groups.io <richtownsend@...>
To: realstmfc@groups.io <realstmfc@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2020 2:14 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] DUPX 1406

I have a copy of the AC&F builders photo of this tank car. It is dated Dec. 10, 1924. It is a duPont tank car, insulated, possibly 1,000 gallon capacity. It is unusual in that it has an expansion dome and, offset from that toward the B end, a valve bonnet. This car, with this number, does not appear in the 1955 tank car tariff (which, by the way, is an absolutely fascinating document). The earliest ORER I have is from 1938, and it is not listed there under that number. Can anyone provide any information on this car? How does it appear, if at all, in pre-1938 ORERs? Any idea on what it might have been renumbered to?

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


DUPX 1406

Richard Townsend
 

I have a copy of the AC&F builders photo of this tank car. It is dated Dec. 10, 1924. It is a duPont tank car, insulated, possibly 1,000 gallon capacity. It is unusual in that it has an expansion dome and, offset from that toward the B end, a valve bonnet. This car, with this number, does not appear in the 1955 tank car tariff (which, by the way, is an absolutely fascinating document). The earliest ORER I have is from 1938, and it is not listed there under that number. Can anyone provide any information on this car? How does it appear, if at all, in pre-1938 ORERs? Any idea on what it might have been renumbered to?

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Re: Photos: Assorted Tank Cars

Tony Thompson
 

Todd Sullivan wrote:

I check the Southern Iron & Equipment Company website every couple of months hoping to find their kits for sale . . .

    Maybe if you checked Southern Car & Foundry instead?  <grin>

Tony Thompson




Re: Photos: Assorted Tank Cars

Tony Thompson
 

Dan Smith wrote:

Yes, Southern Car & Foundry did 2 three compartment cars. One, # 2006, is an as built 3 dome 3 compartment car and the other one, # 2007, is a single compartment car with 3 domes. With a bit of work and the rivet rows needed, it can be made into a great little 3 compartment rebuilt tank car.
      What are you talking about, Dan? My #2007 has all the needed rivet rows for its three compartments. It is most certainly NOT a single-compartment car.

Tony Thompson




Re: Photos: Assorted Tank Cars

Todd Sullivan
 

I check the Southern Iron & Equipment Company website every couple of months hoping to find their kits for sale, but haven't had any luck.  Does anyone know if they are being or will be produced in the future?  They are all unlike other tank car kits, plastic or resin, and therefore fill a need.

Todd Sullivan


Re: Photos: Assorted Tank Cars

Richard Townsend
 

Didn't someone do a kitbash like that? http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2017/02/creating-wine-tank-car.html

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Thompson <tony@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2020 11:19 am
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Tank Cars

Bob Chaparro  wrote:

Has anyone produced such a car in HO scale?

      Overland made an insulated car like this in brass.

Tony Thompson




Re: Photos: Assorted Tank Cars

Richard Townsend
 

I like this car a lot! Nicely done!

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2020 11:13 am
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Tank Cars

None that I know of, but there are some fun possibilities for kitbashing.
 
This two compartment car began as the P2k Type 21 and uses some Archer tank car rivets and an extra, smaller dome, maybe from Tangent.
 
Steve Hile
 
 
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 12:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Assorted Tank Cars
 
"...three-compartment car in question was rebuilt from a single-compartment car. The give-away is the middle dome bigger than the outer two: big enough for the whole car in its original form."

Has anyone produced such a car in HO scale?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Photos: Assorted Tank Cars

 

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 11:21 AM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Bob Chaparro asked:

Has anyone produced such a car in HO scale?
    There is also, of course, the Southern Car & Foundry resin kit, makes a very nice car.

Tony Thompson
 
Yes, Southern Car & Foundry did 2 three compartment cars. One, # 2006, is an as built 3 dome 3 compartment car and the other one, # 2007, is a single compartment car with 3 domes. With a bit of work and the rivet rows needed, it can be made into a great little 3 compartment rebuilt tank car.
Dan Smith
 
 

 
 

 


Photo: L&N End-Door Boxcar

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: L&N End-Door Boxcar

A Chuck Zeiler photo:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/chuckzeiler/38481886355/in/album-72157656279726732/

Click to enlarge photo.

Built 12-1940. Original number series 99800 to 99999.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Photos: Assorted Tank Cars

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro asked:

Has anyone produced such a car in HO scale?

    There is also, of course, the Southern Car & Foundry resin kit, makes a very nice car.

Tony Thompson



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