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Re: Tangent G-70-12 for other classes

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

WILLIAM PARDIE wrote:
There has been quite a discussion on the similarities between the G-70-12 and the G-70-8 gondolas for the Southern Pacific. Would someone be kind enough to list the differences between the G-70-12 and the G-70-9 gondolas. They were both built in 1953.
Extremely similar--only really noticeable feature is the brake step on the end, which was Gypsum expanded-metal style on the -8 and Kerrigan (like Apex) rectangular grid on the -12. But they WERE NOT built at the same time. The -8 cars were built in 1951, the -12s in 1953. If you want months, I can supply.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


8-hatch reefers

Ian Cranstone
 

Dave, on the CPR you'll be looking for cars 289640-289999, which were constructed from 1936-1942, on CNR you need 209500-209799, built from 1939-1943.

Ian Cranstone
Osgoode, Ontario, Canada
www.nakina.net

On Nov 3, 2009, devansprr <devans1@erols.com> wrote:

Is the RMC series on these reefers, or on reefers in general. I have some reefer info, but it does not mention these 8-hatch cars. Which RMC issues (approximate)? My last attempt at the on-line index was less than successful. (one hit for Culotta)

There are quite a few 42'6" cars in the '43 ORER for the Canadian roads that look to be recently built. Any chance these are the cars?


Re: Tangent G-70-12 for other classes

WILLIAM PARDIE
 

There has been quite a discussion on the similarities between the
G-70-12 and the G-70-8 gondolas for the Southern Pacific. Would
someone be kind enough tolist the differences between the G-70-12 and
the G-70-9 gondolas.
They were both built in 1953.

Thanks in advance.

Bill Pardie

On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Anthony Thompson wrote:

Ed Hawkins wrote:
The bodies of the cars were identical. The G-70-8 cars built in 1951
were originally painted black with white stencils. Technically, the
Tangent model is actually more accurate for the G-70-8 because these
prototype cars came with U.S. Gypsum brake steps that the model
replicates nicely. The G-70-12 cars had Kerrigan brake steps, which
were a rectangular open grid similar to Apex Tri-Lok. In addition to
coverage of these SP gondola cars in Tony's book, RP CYC Vol. 19 has
a comprehensive 53-page article covering all prototype cars . . .
Ed is correct, as photos in my book show. The other, very
minor difference is that different draft gear was used in the two
classes, and careful examination of the draft gear opening; in the car
end will show the difference, but this is below the level of
significance that any but the most meticulous modeler would recognize.
I hope that Tangent will presently release a black G-70-8 too!

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history



Re: Frank Peacock

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

Clark,
I tried to send you private email but it's returned this sentence (with other data of course);

Your access to this mail system has been rejected due to the sending MTA's poor reputation. If you believe that this failure is in error, please contact the intended recipient via alternate means.

Do you have any other email address?

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


PSC (#32110) stanchions

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

Denny, if you'd like to organize a group order, I'll commit to 3 packages.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


Re: Gondola loads

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Brian Carlson wrote:
Yes, but instead of toilet paper, I've used tissues paper, paint does make it rigid.
Kleenex works for me--the key in my opinion is to avoid the "vacuum-packed," extremely rigid look, such as on the Chooch HO loads. Even a snug tarp does NOT, repeat NOT look anything like a Chooch load.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Masochism: The Building of a Sunshine Standard Brands Vinegar Ta

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Denny Anspach wrote:
I had presumed that I had the stanchions in inventory (left over from a previous project), but I did not- nor do any of the larger hobby shops from which I have made inquiry. When I talked to PSC directly, they mentioned that these stanchions have become a very popular item, which I would chalk up to the current high hobby interest in tank cars. Caboose Hobbies told me the same thing.
Maybe you should do what I did--buy a bulk order of the PSC stanchions and divide the order with friends. In fact I could conceivably be partly responsible for the "popularity" <g> -- along with certain kit manufacturers.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: M53 instructions

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Nov 5, 2009, at 1:18 PM, Denis F. Blake wrote:

... if you contact me I will be glad to see that the instructions get
email to you.
Please.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Mini-kits WAS: Looking for a Sunshine Mini-kit

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Paul Lyons wrote:
Elden, you obviously haven't bought any new resin kits lately! $40 is probably getting closer to the norm, with many reaching close to $50.
The new WrightTRAK SP caboose is $59.95 but does come with trucks.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Masochism: The Building of a Sunshine Standard Brands Vinegar Ta

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

Ned Carey inquires-

>> I am also using PSC's 90º
>>pipe elbows.

Denny, I am curious what you are going to use them for, the handrail
around
the tank?
Yes. I have not done exactly this before, but I have always thought
that this (handrail pipe elbows at corners) is a pretty obvious but
overlooked detail on tank cars that also just happens to be right in
full view. I have these elbows remaining from a previous brass
locomotive project, so can try it out. Sunshine actually includes
cast resin elbows in the kit just for this purpose, but they are
pretty oversized.

I may be coming too picky.

Ned Carey
Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento


Re: M53 instructions

seaboard_1966
 

Guys

Gary's wife is working right now, at 635PM, to get the instructions on the website. She does not know if she is going to be able to post the pdfs there or not. Push comes to pull she will get the doc up there and the photo's as well. She is also going to attempt to email the instructions and what not to me so that I can send them to folks that are without. If none of this works out we will simply burn new mini CD's and send them to all that are having problems.

As John stated, we are on a learning curve, bump, whatever on this. Next time we will get it right. And yes John, part of the problem was indeed rushing to get stuff taken care of in the hotel room the night the show started.

Not trying to make excuses here, just trying to let you folks know what happened and what is happening now....

WE WILL MAKE IT RIGHT....

Denis Blake
WrightTRAK Railroad Models, LLC

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Wark" <wark.john@gmail.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] M53 instructions


Denis,

Can we get a clarification as to what will be posted to the website? Will
everything that was on the CD, i.e. instructions, heralds, pictures, etc.
be available to download from the website? If so, that takes care of my
issues. I applaud you for trying an alternative to paper for instructions,
diagrams, etc. I personally prefer something digital that I can zoom,
print, etc. as I need.

Appreciate your fast response and taking ownership for the problem. I can't
speak for everyone else, but a fast fix to a problem is all we can ask for
when things inevitably go bump in the night. There's nothing you can count
on more than something going wrong when you try something new, especially
when hurrying to have a new kit available for Naperville.

John Wark


On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Denis F. Blake <dblake7@columbus.rr.com>wrote:



Guys

Anyone having trouble with the CD for the WrightTRAK car should email me. I

will see to it that this gets taken care of. I am the one who burned the CD

and was not aware that the PDF was supposed to be on there and not the word

document. NO one told me different and I simply put the doc on there and
not the pdf. The pdf with the heralds and what not arrived too late and we
were not able to include that on the mini cd...This is our first attempt at

using a mini CD and we obviously have to learn how to deal with them..Sorry

for the confusion.

This is NOT Jim's fault so please don't bother him with requests for the
directions. This is a WrightTRAK project so get in touch with me. Jim is
our contractor for this and several of our other and upcoming projects.

We at WrightTRAK will be posting the instructions on our website so folks
will be able to get them there.

Also, if you contact me I will be glad to see that the instructions get
email to you.

Denis Blake
WrightTRAK Railroad Models

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim King" <jimking3@charter.net <jimking3%40charter.net>>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com <STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:26 PM
Subject: [STMFC] M53 instructions

There should be a .pdf on the B&O M53 mini-CD. The MicroSoft "Word" file
should not have been burned to the CD, only the .pdf, B&OHS stenciling
diagram and John Cantley's photo folder. I didn't do the burning, so
don't
know what exactly got put on them.



Jim King

Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc.

<http://www.smokymountainmodelworks.com>








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Re: Train Fest

Charlie Vlk
 

Jim-
There are a number of small kit manufacturers at TrainFest and, while the Great Unwashed do attend, it is an important event for diehard Model Railroaders.
While it doesn't have the exclusive focus of people that already do resin kits that the prototype modeler events do, it is not focused on beginners by any means..... and since many of those guys already have all the resin kits it might be advantageous to get a table. There are displays by serious modelers, and increasingly has supplanted the old RICHTA / iHobby "International" show as an important show for Model Railroad Manufacturers. It is on the order of the Springfield, MA show (and I've been told the Oklahoma City one as well although I've never been to that one to compare myself).
Charlie Vlk
Railroad Model Resources




My hunch is that Milwaukee's Train Fest is targeted toward the general
public with very little to attract modelers interested in resin kits. At
least that's what I've heard since last year. Some year, I'll be at
Naperville too but not until I've expanded my HO offerings since that is the
main interest.

Jim King


Re: M53 instructions

John Wark
 

Denis,

Can we get a clarification as to what will be posted to the website? Will
everything that was on the CD, i.e. instructions, heralds, pictures, etc.
be available to download from the website? If so, that takes care of my
issues. I applaud you for trying an alternative to paper for instructions,
diagrams, etc. I personally prefer something digital that I can zoom,
print, etc. as I need.

Appreciate your fast response and taking ownership for the problem. I can't
speak for everyone else, but a fast fix to a problem is all we can ask for
when things inevitably go bump in the night. There's nothing you can count
on more than something going wrong when you try something new, especially
when hurrying to have a new kit available for Naperville.

John Wark


On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Denis F. Blake <dblake7@columbus.rr.com>wrote:



Guys

Anyone having trouble with the CD for the WrightTRAK car should email me. I

will see to it that this gets taken care of. I am the one who burned the CD

and was not aware that the PDF was supposed to be on there and not the word

document. NO one told me different and I simply put the doc on there and
not the pdf. The pdf with the heralds and what not arrived too late and we
were not able to include that on the mini cd...This is our first attempt at

using a mini CD and we obviously have to learn how to deal with them..Sorry

for the confusion.

This is NOT Jim's fault so please don't bother him with requests for the
directions. This is a WrightTRAK project so get in touch with me. Jim is
our contractor for this and several of our other and upcoming projects.

We at WrightTRAK will be posting the instructions on our website so folks
will be able to get them there.

Also, if you contact me I will be glad to see that the instructions get
email to you.

Denis Blake
WrightTRAK Railroad Models

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim King" <jimking3@charter.net <jimking3%40charter.net>>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com <STMFC%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 3:26 PM
Subject: [STMFC] M53 instructions

There should be a .pdf on the B&O M53 mini-CD. The MicroSoft "Word" file
should not have been burned to the CD, only the .pdf, B&OHS stenciling
diagram and John Cantley's photo folder. I didn't do the burning, so
don't
know what exactly got put on them.



Jim King

Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc.

<http://www.smokymountainmodelworks.com>









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Re: Looking for a Sunshine Mini-kit

mopacfirst
 

You're right, they were there and I picked up a couple of them. I've since found I can get two cars out of one (hint: one is not a Wabash car) so I might have one surplus. Contact me offlist.

Ron Merrick

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Brian Carlson <prrk41361@...> wrote:

I'm fairly certain, I saw this kit on their rack at Naperville. At least I did look at a Wabash 50' steel boxcar mini-kit, maybe they have others.
Brian Carlson

--- On Thu, 11/5/09, pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:


From: pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Looking for a Sunshine Mini-kit
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 1:59 PM

I was pretty sure it is as you described, thus I'm throwing myself at the mercy of my fellow listers in the hopes of turning up a couple of those particular mini-kits.
Hope springs eternal.
Pierre Oliver





Re: Masochism: The Building of a Sunshine Standard Brands Vinegar Ta

Ned Carey <nedspam@...>
 

I am also using PSC's 90�
pipe elbows.

Denny, I am curious what you are going to use them for, the handrail around the tank?

Ned Carey


Re: Gondola loads

CJ Riley
 

I have done this, myself using both TP and tissue paper. May I suggest various odd shaped blocks of any material. Things like empty disposable razor cartridges or similar material can be draped easily with the paper and provide a defined but unidentifiable shape.

CJ Riley

--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Clark Propst <cepropst@netconx.net> wrote:

From: Clark Propst <cepropst@netconx.net>
Subject: [STMFC] Gondola loads
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 1:35 PM







 









I've been thinking of a load I can put in my new Tangent gon. one that would terminate on my layout. I have Central Valley through truss bridge members I can use.



But, I'd like to try a covered load. I was thinking of a styrene base (so the car can be emptied) with several "tent poles" for lack of a better term glued upright. I would cover these with a single ply of toilet tissue. Then paint a proper color hoping the paint will make the tissue more rigid.

Anyone ever try this?

Clark Propst

Mason City Iowa



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Re: Gondola loads

Brian Carlson
 

Yes, but instead of toilet paper, I've used tissues paper, paint does make
it rigid.



Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY



From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Clark Propst
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:36 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Gondola loads





I've been thinking of a load I can put in my new Tangent gon. one that would
terminate on my layout. I have Central Valley through truss bridge members I
can use.

But, I'd like to try a covered load. I was thinking of a styrene base (so
the car can be emptied) with several "tent poles" for lack of a better term
glued upright. I would cover these with a single ply of toilet tissue. Then
paint a proper color hoping the paint will make the tissue more rigid.
Anyone ever try this?
Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Re: Masochism: The Building of a Sunshine Standard Brands Vinegar Ta

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

"pierreoliver2003" pierre.oliver@sympatico.ca pierreoliver2003
Thu Nov 5, 2009 6:35 am (PST)

Pierre Oliver writes-


I've built 3 [vinegar car kits] to date....

Now, there might be someone's definition of true masochism!

As you've yet to install the handrail I would suggest that you look
at the PSC tank car stanchions rather than the cast units in the
kit. The cast ones ones are brutally oversize as are the elbow
castings for the corners.
Pierre, that is exactly my plan. The PSC (#32110) stanchions are
pretty precise, enough IMHO to overcome the fact that they are a
totally different article than those cast resin stanchions in the kit
that supposedly replicate the prototype. I am also using PSC's 90º
pipe elbows.

I had presumed that I had the stanchions in inventory (left over from
a previous project), but I did not- nor do any of the larger hobby
shops from which I have made inquiry. When I talked to PSC directly,
they mentioned that these stanchions have become a very popular item,
which I would chalk up to the current high hobby interest in tank
cars. Caboose Hobbies told me the same thing.

These small PSC items become pretty pricey when one factors in PSC's
$30 minimum mail order charge (shipping still extra!).

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Sacramento







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Re: Naperville Proto Modelers Seminar photos

Eric Hansmann
 

Thanks Larry!

Eric


Eric Hansmann
Chagrin Falls, Ohio
Starting over in a new house:
http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Larry Kline <lndkline@...> wrote:


Eric Hansmann asked:
Has anyone posted images from the Naperville event yet?

From the RPM-Forum Yahoo Group:
Posted by: "mgoedert" mgoedert@... mgoedert
Sun Nov 1, 2009 12:27 pm (PST)

Hello:

I have posted a large amount of photos from the last RPM meet in
Naperville IL. this weekend. Once again there were a lot of great
models this year on display. I personally thank everyone who brought a
model as the display room is my favorite part of the show.

Please enjoy the photos at:
http://www.MrTrains.com

If you have any questions or corrections to the site please feel free
to contact me.

- Mark N. Goedert


Re: Rails Unlimited ACL K-7 41'6" Lowside Gondola

golden1014
 

Hi Jace,

Contact me offline at Golden1014@yahoo. com when you're ready. I should have what you're looking for.

John Golden
Bloomington, IN

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Justin Kahn <harumd@...> wrote:


Some months ago I bought one of Ted Schnepf's resin O scale kits (there are a few such
in O scale--just not nearly so many as HO modelers have available) and his instruction sheet
(which unhappily has very little information) is keyed to the 2007 issue from the SCL
modelers website, now deleted. Are there any currently-accessible images of this car online?
As it is, I don't even know what the B-end of the car looks like, nor the brake gear on the
underframe (apparently it was built with a K-2 system, perhaps upgraded to AB at a later date).

Jace Kahn, General Manager

Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.




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