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BC RPM meet update

hockenheim68
 

BC RPM

British Columbia's Own Prototype Modeling Event

Just a reminder, BC RPM is now only six weeks away. Since it was first announced we have another five clinics confirmed for the weekend. More clinics will be added in the coming weeks so stay tuned.

Held in association with Trains 2009, the second annual BC Railroad Prototype Modeler's meet will take place in Burnaby, BC on November 14th, 2009. The RPM dislplay portion of the meet will be 10AM to 4PM Saturday. Clinics run one stream Saturday and two streams Sunday for what will likely total 18 clinics.

The usual bit about ALL SCALES ALL ROADS goes without saying. So if you've been working away on something be it a structure, diorama, freight car or locomotive, in-progress or finished, bring it out and participate in a friendly and informative afternoon. And don't forget to check out the rest of the show while you're at it. Beyond the RPM meet and Clinic line-up, TRAINS 2009 has a lot to offer enthusiasts. The exhibition runs from the evening of Friday, November 13th through to Monday, November 16th and features Operating sessions, a Public show, an Escorted layout tour, Sunday evening Banquet and a Prototype tour.

Below are some of this year's Clinic line-up.
For more detailed clinic descriptions and a tentative schedule go to www.bctrains.org

Dave Love - History of the CPR Caboose Fleet

Joe Smuin - Ghost Train to the Border: A look at the KVR from Penticton to Osoyoos

Brian Pate - From the prototype to model operations: Lessons we've learned from the Klondike Mines Railway

Marc Simpson - Mining and Smelting Railways of British Columbia

Frank Valoczy - Imperial Oil Tank Cars

Timothy Horton - Freight Car Paint & Stencil Schemes on the PGE/BCR

Mike Barone & John Zuk- Growing up in the West Kootenays : An Old Fashioned Slide Show

Frank Leonard - The CPR in Vancouver: Myth and Mismanagement by a noted Author/Historian

Gordon Varney - Scratchbuilding a Tunnel Portal

Larry Sebelly - An update on Free-Mo

Greg Kennelly - Pacific Great Eastern Railway Marine Operations 1914-1957

Wendy Magnall - Backdrop painting

Andrew Hutchinson - Modeling Pacific Northwest Scenery


Cost for BC RPM /Trains 2009 Registration is $20 CDN
Does not include banquet, layout or prototype tours. Operating sessions free but first come first serve. Operating session attendees must Pre-register.

Saturday night escorted layout tour TBA. Cost $25 CDN.

Sunday night Banquet features guest speaker Ken Rutherford of the Alberni Pacific Steam Railroad. Cost $30 CDN.

Monday Proto tour is a walkaround of Southern Railway of BC's Trapp yard Shops.
Cost is $5 CDN.

TRAINS 2009 is located at:
Cameron Centre (across from Lougheed Mall)
9523 Cameron Street
Burnaby, BC, Canada

Cameron Centre is under thirty minutes from downtown Vancouver using Skytrain to Lougheed station.


For more information regarding Trains 2009 and online registration see www.bctrains.org

If you are planning on attending the RPM meet feel free to drop a line at
ahutchinson.mudbay@gmail.com

Andrew Hutchinson, BC RPM co-ordinator


Re: Lettering help

StephanP <sparachuk@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "roblmclear" <rob.mclear2@...> wrote:

Hi guys

I have recently been given a kit of a Baltimore and Ohio M-53 Wagontop boxcar in N scale. The decal instructions with the kit are a bit vague and state not to use the Herald and B&O. Now being normally a western road modeller, ATSF, SP, UP etc, I'm not sure what this means, does anyone have a photograph of this car in the 1947-1949 time period or some idea of how the car should appear.

TIA
Rob McLear
Brisbane Australia.
Rob; Within the last year or so, Ted Culotta did an Essential Freight cars article in RMC on M-53s and Ed Hawkins has a nice article in one of his RPCs. I apologise for the lack of precise dates but I'm upstairs and the info is downstairs. I'll check later to see if we're more up to date.

Stephan Parachuk
Toronto


Re: Early CNW Airslides & Athearn model

Tim O'Connor
 

Bill

I measured the decal image on my screen (Microscale decal sets
are exactly 8.0" tall) and I came up with a scale 52" size for
the tall C&NW. But I agree with you I think the airslides had
somewhat thinner letters or they were just taller giving them
a thinner appearance (higher ratio of height to width)..

Tim

At 9/30/2009 08:16 PM Wednesday, you wrote:
These are close but no cigar I don't think. On the Airslides the
black areas of the CNW were thinner. It is hard to gauge how high
these letters are.

Bill Welch


Re: Archer rivets

Michael McAnally
 

Howdy Tom:
 
The web address is: www.archertransfers.com
 
Mike

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, tchenoweth@aol.com <tchenoweth@aol.com> wrote:


From: tchenoweth@aol.com <tchenoweth@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] RE: Archer rivets
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 8:34 PM


 



Can someone furnish me the website to order the Archer Rivets? I have been
unable to find them. Thanks, Tom Chenoweth

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Star Brand Paints

snoqualmier <leethwaits@...>
 

Is it necessary to put a gloss coat over PBL's Star Brand Paints before applying decals?

Lee Thwaits


Re: Early CNW Airslides & Athearn model

Bill Welch
 

These are close but no cigar I don't think. On the Airslides the black areas of the CNW were thinner. It is hard to gauge how high these letters are.

Bill Welch


Re: Archer rivets

tchenoweth@...
 

Hi Mike,

Thanks very much. Tom


Re: Archer rivets

tchenoweth@...
 

Can someone furnish me the website to order the Archer Rivets? I have been
unable to find them. Thanks, Tom Chenoweth


Re: Early CNW Airslides & Athearn model

Tim O'Connor
 

I wonder if this new Microscale box car set has the correct
size letters for the C&NW airslide? Anyone have a photo of the
C&NW prototype car to compare?

http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/871306.jpg

Tim O'Connor

I recall Oddballs had one or more sets for CNW Airslides, but
don't recall the specific scheme(s) offered. CJM


Lettering help

roblmclear <rob.mclear2@...>
 

Hi guys

I have recently been given a kit of a Baltimore and Ohio M-53 Wagontop boxcar in N scale. The decal instructions with the kit are a bit vague and state not to use the Herald and B&O. Now being normally a western road modeller, ATSF, SP, UP etc, I'm not sure what this means, does anyone have a photograph of this car in the 1947-1949 time period or some idea of how the car should appear.

TIA
Rob McLear
Brisbane Australia.


NEFF RPM Final Update - Please RSVP

bnpmodeler
 

Greetings all, and please pardon the cross-posting.

The 2009 Northeast Fallen Flags Railroad Prototype Modelers Meet is just a few short days away, taking place this Saturday, October 3rd, 2009 at the L.H. Taylor Firehouse, 7 Maryland Avenue, in High Bridge, NJ.

We have a great line-up of presentations and vendors on tap, and with the included lunch, this is sure to be a great day of modeling, education, food and fun. The fall colors are starting to pop here in High Bridge and it looks like it will be a great day.

We are writing this final update to request that if you plan on attending the meet, PLEASE RSVP to us so that we have an idea of attendance; since we are not pre-registering attendees, this is the only way for us to gauge how many to expect. So, if you plan on coming out, send us an e-mail at neffrpm@yahoo.com. The Firehouse is not a huge space so it will be nice to know how many are planning on attending.

If you have any questions or are in need of additional info, again, drop us an e-mail and we will do our best to help out. Other than that, if you are coming, bring as many models for the display tables as you are comfortable with; there will be plenty of display tables as well as seating.

See you Saturday;

Jim Harr
Ralph Heiss
NEFF RPM co-chairpersons


Re: Lettering help

Charles Hladik
 

Rob,
I believe that to mean don't use both on the same car.
Chuck Hladik

In a message dated 9/30/2009 6:07:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rob.mclear2@bigpond.com writes:




Hi guys

I have recently been given a kit of a Baltimore and Ohio M-53 Wagontop
boxcar in N scale. The decal instructions with the kit are a bit vague and
state not to use the Herald and B&O. Now being normally a western road
modeller, ATSF, SP, UP etc, I'm not sure what this means, does anyone have a
photograph of this car in the 1947-1949 time period or some idea of how the car
should appear.

TIA
Rob McLear
Brisbane Australia.


Re: Erie 1932 ARA boxcars

ed_mines
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Carlson" <brian@...> wrote:
Does anyone know if underframe drawings of the Erie's 1932 ARA boxcars
appeared (Or C&O or NKP) in any of the car builders cycs in the 1930's.

My recollection is that detailed drawings of all of these cars appeared on the instruction/data sheet included with the Yankee Clipper kits for these cars.


Re: CP model to fit a paint scheme

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

Guess what? The guy who wanted me to find out what car he needed for his 'Stepped Lettering" decals had my Oct. 94 RMC!

Thanks for all the help!!
Clark Propst

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Rhodes" <farronhill@...> wrote:

Thanks, Tim, for that clarification.

As others have pointed out, there is good detailed info in the Jim Little articles in RMC in the
October 1994 and March 1995 issues, where variations within the CPR number "series" have been broken
out in detail.

My focus was on car numbers that could be seen on "similar" cars with the "stepped block" scheme,
but of course you're quite correct that "similar" glosses over a number of variations in detail that
can be of interest to modelers. CPR in the timeframe often spread its orders around to different car
builders, which sometimes but not always resulted in different construction details, appliances etc
in the resulting cars. I understand from discussions on the list that this was a fairly common
practice amongst US railways also.

So to accurately model a specific car or group of cars from the same builder at the same time, I
agree the "series" I quoted are too broadly drawn.

Thanks
Doug

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: [STMFC] Re: CP model to fit a paint scheme


Doug Rhodes wrote

>> 10 foot 6 inch high cars (1944 modified design)
>> CP252250-267210 built 1948-1953
>> That last series had almost 15,000 cars in service in 1956...
>> it might be a good choice for a "typical" boxcar based on the
>> 1937 design.

Doug, the 252250-267210 "series" is many different series from
different builders at different times. None of them are exactly
like the 1937 AAR box car or the modified 1940 design either.

Here's an order breakdown for just 255500-267210:

255500-256499 blt 1948 NSC YSD-1 door
257000-257199 blt 1950 ECC YSD-1 door
257200-257499 blt 1950 CCF YSD-1 door
257500-258199 blt 1950 NSC YSD-1 door
258200-258499 blt 1951 ECC YSD-1 door
258500-258999 blt 1951 ECC YSD-1 door
259000-259499 blt 1951 NSC YSD-1 door
259500-260499 blt 1951 CCF YSD-1 door
260500-261399 blt 1951 CCF YSD-1 door
261400-261699 blt 1951 NSC YSD-1 door
261700-262699 blt 1951 NSC YSD-1 door
262700-263899 blt 1952 CP YSD-1 door
263900-264899 blt 1952 CCF YSD-1 door
264900-265249 blt 1953 NSC YSD-1 door
265250-266049 blt 1952 CP YSD-1 door
266050-267210 blt 1953 CP YSD-1 door

Tim O'Connor






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Erie 1932 ARA boxcars

Brian Carlson <brian@...>
 

Does anyone know if underframe drawings of the Erie's 1932 ARA boxcars
appeared (Or C&O or NKP) in any of the car builders cycs in the 1930's. I am
reviewing the Atlas model and underframe has some issues with mis-located
components. I like to find a better drawing or photo of the underframe of
the Erie cars to confirm. NKP or C&O cars would be acceptable also since it
appears they had similar brake and foundation equipment since they were AMC
roads.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


Re: Archer rivets

Brian Carlson <brian@...>
 

The newer HO sets have been easy to cut with a sharp x-acto. I don't have
any of the earlier multi-purpose sets.

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.
Cheektowaga NY

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Kirkham
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:22 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] RE: Archer rivets

Tom, what set do you have? Are you looking at the tank car rivet set? If
so, they have rows very close together on purpose, as the intent is that you

don't separate them. In other words, they are intended to be a double row.

Rob Kirkham


Re: Archer rivets

Robert kirkham
 

Tom, what set do you have? Are you looking at the tank car rivet set? If so, they have rows very close together on purpose, as the intent is that you don't separate them. In other words, they are intended to be a double row.

Rob Kirkham

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From: "Thomas Baker" <bakert@andrews.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:57 PM
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [STMFC] RE: Archer rivets

The rows of rivets look way too close together for a scissors.

Tom


Re: Archer rivets

rdietrichson
 

Thomas,
I use very sharp scissors with good results. Also the use of Future Floor Acrylic assures good adhesion.
Rick Dietrichson
Wilmingto, NC

----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Baker
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:15 PM
Subject: [STMFC] RE: Archer rivets


I recall from reading past posts that a few members of the list have tried Archer fine transfer rivets. I ordered some but shy away from using them. The rivets are so close together that it would be easy to damage a row and require purchase of additional sheets to complete a small project.

Does someone on the list have a recommendation of a cutting tool and any special cutting technique?

Tom


Re: Archer rivets

Thomas Baker
 

The rows of rivets look way too close together for a scissors.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Tue 9/29/2009 10:00 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] RE: Archer rivets


scissors?



I recall from reading past posts that a few members of the list have tried Archer fine transfer rivets. I ordered some but shy away from using them. The rivets are so close together that it would be easy to damage a row and require purchase of additional sheets to complete a small project.

Does someone on the list have a recommendation of a cutting tool and any special cutting technique?

Tom


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Re: Archer rivets

Tim O'Connor
 

scissors?

I recall from reading past posts that a few members of the list have tried Archer fine transfer rivets. I ordered some but shy away from using them. The rivets are so close together that it would be easy to damage a row and require purchase of additional sheets to complete a small project.

Does someone on the list have a recommendation of a cutting tool and any special cutting technique?

Tom

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