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Re: Domino Sugar PS 2893

Tim O'Connor
 

Greg

It's a private car so for whatever reason they stenciled it NEW even
though the car has obviously been repainted. If you can find a photo
of a 12 year old repainted (not rebuilt) railroad owned car stenciled
NEW please share.

In any case, NEW is not BLT -- that's why the built date is located in
a different place and is even part of the current COTS stencil system.
A NEW car is a capital expenditure (i.e. after tax expense), while a
repainted or refurbished car is an expense (i.e. before income taxes).
The IRS was quite strict about when RR expenses could be capitalized.

Tim

At 11/7/2009 09:27 PM Saturday, you wrote:
Schuyler you old wag... #^)

This old wag has glasses but a nice big computer screen as well and when I
popped it up it sure did say New 6-54 on mine and I am pretty damn sure
taxes or not they would want to back date the car for accounting purposes or
any other reason...

Greg


Re: Domino Sugar PS 2893

Greg Martin
 

Schuyler you old wag... #^)

This old wag has glasses but a nice big computer screen as well and when I
popped it up it sure did say New 6-54 on mine and I am pretty damn sure
taxes or not they would want to back date the car for accounting purposes or
any other reason...

Greg

In a message dated 11/6/2009 9:11:03 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
schuyler.larrabee@verizon.net writes:




This "wag" would like to point out that the "NEW 6 54" date seems to bear a
very close relationship
to Kurt's answer.

SGL

Thanks Kurt. A couple of the usual wags thought they could read
the built date on the car, so it's nice to have actual facts. I'm
sure it would be a waste of time to try to explain to some people
that a "new" date is NOT the same as a build date. NEW is a tax
category that has consequences for equipment amortization and does
not necessarily have anything to do with the construction date.

I'd like to see a roof shot of one of the cars -- I can't recall
seeing hatches exactly like that before.

Tim O'Connor

According to Ed's article in the 9/05 RMJ, ASRX 602-611 were built in
1954.
>Apparently a number of the "sugar cars" were delivered without roof
hatches
with later installation by the buyer.
>KL

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor

Anyone have a build date for these cars? -- there were 11 of
them, this picture is from 1966 but the car is a 1950's version
of the PS-2 2893 and the group is listed in the 1963 ORER. This
photo is from 1966 (appears to have a 1964 paint date).

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Trainfest

Ray Meyer
 

If all you are looking for is resin kits, Trainfest is not the place
to go. But if you want to see some really good modeling and get some
deals on new equipment and just swap stories with a lot of good guys,
Trainfest is the place to go. Ad the manufacturers area is a good
place for some expert advice and a preview of what's coming.


WrightTrak/Smoky Mountain B&O M53 boxcar

Jim King
 

Hi, Grop.
I think that a lot of us would like to see this kit, since some of us could
not make Naperville. Is any info avail.??? Thanks
Dennis Williams
Munhall,Pa.
www.resinbuilders4u.com


Dennis,



Gary's pipeline is just now refilling after selling out at Naperville. I'm
producing 100 more castings now for him to pick up on his way to Milwaukee's
Train Fest next week. Not all are expected to be sold there (but that would
be nice!). These will fill backorders, dealer orders and stock, so your
best bet is to contact a dealer or Gary directly, but considering he'll be
on the road most of next week, communication may be difficult.



To see a couple pix of the pilot model I built for the instructions, contact
Denis Blake at dblake7@columbus.rr.com.



Jim King

Smoky Mountain Model Works, Inc.

<http://www.smokymountainmodelworks.com>


Re: WrightTrak/Smoky Mountain B&O M53 boxcar

Dennis Williams
 

Hi, Grop.
 I think that a lot of us would like to see this kit, since some of us could not make Naperville.  Is any info avail.??? Thanks
Dennis Williams
Munhall,Pa.
www.resinbuilders4u.com

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@verizon.net> wrote:


From: Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@verizon.net>
Subject: [STMFC] WrightTrak/Smoky Mountain B&O M53 boxcar
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 4:55 PM


 



It's a beautiful kit and one I can finish. It's not going to be quite as
easy as it looks like at first but they seldom are. This is the first resin
kit I've bought that requests a butane torch and a drill press for tools.
I'll try to get along with a fire lighter and I hardly ever break any #78
bits using the flex-shaft on my Dremel clone together with my sewing machine
speed control to bore holes for grabs.

The box is very pretty but very small. I strongly prefer a Sunshine size box
or at least Intermountain size. I like to box my printed research material
in with the kit and that can't happen with this box. Heck there isn't even
room for a printed copy of the instructions.

I'm looking forward to starting this kit but I need to finish a few other
kits first.<G>

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits. com











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Re: Domino Sugar PS 2893

Schuyler Larrabee
 

This "wag" would like to point out that the "NEW 6 54" date seems to bear a very close relationship
to Kurt's answer.

SGL

Thanks Kurt. A couple of the usual wags thought they could read
the built date on the car, so it's nice to have actual facts. I'm
sure it would be a waste of time to try to explain to some people
that a "new" date is NOT the same as a build date. NEW is a tax
category that has consequences for equipment amortization and does
not necessarily have anything to do with the construction date.

I'd like to see a roof shot of one of the cars -- I can't recall
seeing hatches exactly like that before.

Tim O'Connor

According to Ed's article in the 9/05 RMJ, ASRX 602-611 were built in 1954.
Apparently a number of the "sugar cars" were delivered without roof hatches
with later installation by the buyer.

KL

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor

Anyone have a build date for these cars? -- there were 11 of
them, this picture is from 1966 but the car is a 1950's version
of the PS-2 2893 and the group is listed in the 1963 ORER. This
photo is from 1966 (appears to have a 1964 paint date).

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Re: Domino Sugar PS 2893

Tim O'Connor
 

Thanks Kurt. A couple of the usual wags thought they could read
the built date on the car, so it's nice to have actual facts. I'm
sure it would be a waste of time to try to explain to some people
that a "new" date is NOT the same as a build date. NEW is a tax
category that has consequences for equipment amortization and does
not necessarily have anything to do with the construction date.

I'd like to see a roof shot of one of the cars -- I can't recall
seeing hatches exactly like that before.

Tim O'Connor

According to Ed's article in the 9/05 RMJ, ASRX 602-611 were built in 1954.
Apparently a number of the "sugar cars" were delivered without roof hatches
with later installation by the buyer.

KL

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor

Anyone have a build date for these cars? -- there were 11 of
them, this picture is from 1966 but the car is a 1950's version
of the PS-2 2893 and the group is listed in the 1963 ORER. This
photo is from 1966 (appears to have a 1964 paint date).

http://www.first-out.com/ebay/sept/1101075.jpg


Re: Railshops H31A

Charlie Vlk
 

Eric-
Chris Z. is alive and well and working out some final details on the kits.
I spoke to him before Naperville about the decal art and saw him at Naperville.
The project is moving forward.
Charlie Vlk
Railroad Model Resources


Does anybody have more information on the Railshops PRR H31A? They
were not at Naperville this year and I was really hoping they would
come to market with these. The samples last year were wonderful.

Eric Mumper




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Re: Domino Sugar PS 2893

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Kinda easy to read "NEW 6-54" on the side of the car . . .

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 9:18 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Domino Sugar PS 2893



Anyone have a build date for these cars? -- there were 11 of
them, this picture is from 1966 but the car is a 1950's version
of the PS-2 2893 and the group is listed in the 1963 ORER. This
photo is from 1966 (appears to have a 1964 paint date).

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Tim O'Connor








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Re: Railshops H31A

Bruce Smith
 

"mumpseee" <eric.mumper@gmail.com> 11/06/09 3:20 PM >>>
Group,

Does anybody have more information on the Railshops PRR H31A? They
were not at Naperville this year and I was really >hoping they would
come to market with these. The samples last year were wonderful.

Eric,

Chris Z was at Naperville so I took the opportunity to ask him about the
status of these cars. He said that a number of people had "beta-tested"
the kits and discovered some minor issues. The bottom line is that he
hopes to have these resolved shortly and the kits on the market. I for
one can't wait, even if they are the wrong subclass for me.

Regards
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: Domino Sugar PS 2893

Kurt Laughlin <fleeta@...>
 

According to Ed's article in the 9/05 RMJ, ASRX 602-611 were built in 1954. Apparently a number of the "sugar cars" were delivered without roof hatches with later installation by the buyer.

KL

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor

Anyone have a build date for these cars? -- there were 11 of
them, this picture is from 1966 but the car is a 1950's version
of the PS-2 2893 and the group is listed in the 1963 ORER. This
photo is from 1966 (appears to have a 1964 paint date).

http://www.first-out.com/ebay/sept/1101075.jpg


Domino Sugar PS 2893

Tim O'Connor
 

Anyone have a build date for these cars? -- there were 11 of
them, this picture is from 1966 but the car is a 1950's version
of the PS-2 2893 and the group is listed in the 1963 ORER. This
photo is from 1966 (appears to have a 1964 paint date).

http://www.first-out.com/ebay/sept/1101075.jpg

Tim O'Connor


Re: Modeling LCL

Schuyler Larrabee
 

It's called LTL.

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:59 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Modeling LCL




Box car LCL consolidators (freight forwarders) continued
into the 1970's and maybe later. I'm sure they're still out
there but using intermodal instead of carload.

Tim O'Connor

Were not these firms acting as freight consolidators? and did
they not complete their service by local trucking delivery?
Tony Thompson







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Re: Masochism: The Building of a Sunshine Standard Brands Vinegar Ta

Schuyler Larrabee
 

PSC has a ridiculously extensive line of eyebolts in a vast range of identified sizes.

SGL

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 6:56 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Masochism: The Building of a Sunshine Standard Brands Vinegar Ta




There are several types of eye bolts (wire & cast) that probably
could be "kitbashed" if needed to simulate various types of pipe
hangers that are not available.

I know some folks have griped about the size of DA eye bolts but
I actually have several different sizes from very small to rather
large -- and I think they're all DA parts. This is a big advantage
to buying from a hobby shop where you can look before you buy. :-)

Tim O'Connor

At 11/6/2009 05:34 PM Friday, you wrote:
Tim O'Connor writes-

Tichy makes tank car pipe stanchions too, although I don't know
if they are accurate for any of the Sunshine kits.
If I am not mistaken, Southern C&F uses the Tichy stanchions- which do
really look nice-, but also seem to be available only in Tichy's Tank
Car Set (formerly Gould). These Tichy stanchions are similar to that
provided with the Vinegar Tank Car kit, while the PSC stanchions have
a slightly longer mounting flange with high relief rivet detailing.

However, the wall thickness of encircling pipe holders are as
follows: 1) Sunshine Vinegar Tank: c. 2.5"; 2) Tichy c. 2.0"; and 3)
PSC 1-1/2". The rivet/bolt detailing on the PSC is superior, with the
Tichy only very slightly behind. The Sunshine stanchions are cookie
cutter plain.

I am sticking with the PSC -lovely parts.

Now (*now*)- and this is new wrinkle just noted on the photos enclosed
with this ever-challenging car kit: None of the handrail stanchions
along the sides of the car are actually mounted on the tank directly.
They are instead all bolted directly on to strategically placed rod
tighteners with plain pipe holders of stanchions that look like none
of the above! Of course, there is no note of this in the directions;
Although -with thought- such mounting makes sense, now -again, within
sight of completion, the kit builder faces yet another unexpected
demand on time, ingenuity, and the drive to replicate the prototype.

Right now, my inclination is to look into mounting the stanchions on
the bands securing the tank to the frame- certainly a common stanchion
mount location on more numerous and less exotic tank cars.

I will see what I might be able to do with parts photos. No promises.

Denny







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Re: Railshops H31A

Clark Cooper
 

Their website is parked. Has Rail Shop gone under? I was looking
forward to that H31A.

-Clark Cooper

On Nov 6, 2009, at 3:19 PM, mumpseee wrote:

Group,

Does anybody have more information on the Railshops PRR H31A? They
were not at Naperville this year and I was really hoping they would
come to market with these. The samples last year were wonderful.

Eric Mumper



WrightTrak/Smoky Mountain B&O M53 boxcar

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

It's a beautiful kit and one I can finish. It's not going to be quite as
easy as it looks like at first but they seldom are. This is the first resin
kit I've bought that requests a butane torch and a drill press for tools.
I'll try to get along with a fire lighter and I hardly ever break any #78
bits using the flex-shaft on my Dremel clone together with my sewing machine
speed control to bore holes for grabs.

The box is very pretty but very small. I strongly prefer a Sunshine size box
or at least Intermountain size. I like to box my printed research material
in with the kit and that can't happen with this box. Heck there isn't even
room for a printed copy of the instructions.

I'm looking forward to starting this kit but I need to finish a few other
kits first.<G>

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


Re: Sunshine website - more updates

Mark
 

Jim, keep up the good work. I really enjoy your site.
 
Mark

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From: Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@verizon.net>
Subject: [STMFC] Sunshine website - more updates
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com, RPM-forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 2:44 PM


 



I've updated my all-time list. I have also added Sunshine's newest Numeric
Price List and added the most recent flyers to the Flyers by RR page. Please
let me know if I've screwed up anything.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits. com


Re: ACL Lowside Gondola

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Nov 6, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Justin Kahn wrote:

Many thanks to those who provided me with the pdf from the SCL
webpage, especially Larry Kline, Dave Sieber, and Jerry Glowacki.
I am now in pretty good shape when I get to work on my kit.
One question (perhaps to Richard, who did the original article):
what kind of brakewheel for the original vertical-staff mount?
None of the prototype information available to me spelled out exact;y
what kind of brake wheel, so I just used the 5-spoke circular (not
scalloped) Tichy brakewheel in HO scale.

Richard Hendrickson


Coupler help N scale

roblmclear <rob.mclear2@...>
 

Hi to the group,

I am looking for some assistance, I recently purchased two of the Milwaukee Road boxcars in N scale from Fox Valley Models FVM 9011-1's the cars are great but I have one small problem. I prefer to run all of my cars with body mounted couplers, I have tried a number of different combinations from Micro Trains and have not been able to find one that works at the right height. Does anyone out there have an answer, I prefer not to shim the cars up or file the floors. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Rob McLear
Brisbane Australia.


Re: Modeling LCL

Tim O'Connor
 

Box car LCL consolidators (freight forwarders) continued
into the 1970's and maybe later. I'm sure they're still out
there but using intermodal instead of carload.

Tim O'Connor

Were not these firms acting as freight consolidators? and did
they not complete their service by local trucking delivery?
Tony Thompson

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