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Re: Mini-kits WAS: Looking for a Sunshine Mini-kit

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

All this discussion on these great potential models makes one wonder why no
one has done a kit for them? There are certainly a lot of oddball resin kits
I need less (or not) than some of the great mini-kits and uni-body kits that
are "NLA".

I have a few mini-kit ideas for some enterprising entrepreneur:

1) PRR X29D box car: 1949 on; mini-kit would comprise one 40' overhanging
diagonal panel roof casting, and one side sill underframe casting, for use in
bashing an 8' Branchline 40' box car. Kit would include Circle Keystone, and
both Shadow Kstone lettering variants, plus instructions, P&L
suggestions/diagrams, and truck suggestions.

2) P&LE 40' 1944 AAR variant box car: 1949 on; mini-kit would comprise one
40' overhanging diagonal panel roof casting (as above), plus detail parts,
for use in bashing Branchline 6' door box car. Kit would include "Serves the
Steel Centers" and Century Green lettering schemes, plus instructions, P&L
suggestions/diagrams, and truck suggestions.

What are some more?

Elden Gatwood

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I was pretty sure it is as you described, thus I'm throwing myself at the
mercy of my fellow listers in the hopes of turning up a couple of those
particular mini-kits.
Hope springs eternal.
Pierre Oliver
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC%40yahoogroups.com> , "Jim & Lisa
Hayes" <jimandlisa97225@...> wrote:

Pierre, since the Wabash auto car was a Naperville gift way back in
1999, it's very unlikely Sunshine would've had any on its mini-kit
rack. Last week I talked with Tricia a bit about mini-kits. Sometimes
someone gives them some masters. Sometimes someone says "If you take
the doors from this and an end from that and put them on a plastic
boxcar, you have a great model of a whatever." So then when he has
time, Martin makes a few castings, has a minimum number of decals
printed and 'presto', a mini-kit is born. Note the words few and
minimum. Tricia says they don't make much, if any, money on mini-kits and
,in almost every case, when they're gone, they're gone.
Although I have seen an occasional one pop up again. So, it's unlikely
you'll find one but hope springs eternal. Keep checking that mini-kit rack.
And eBay.

And, to reiterate for those few who don't already know this, mini-kits
can't be ordered. They're sold only at shows Sunshine attends, and the
selection is constantly changing.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


Re: Wright Trak CD instructions & Apple Computors

John Wark
 

Great point Bill. I just dug out the M53 kit that I purchased at Naperville
(great looking kit BTW) and sure enough, that mini-CD won't work with any
modern Mac with the auto-loading slot CD drive. Hopefully Gary will post
the instructions soon.

John Wark


On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:29 AM, lnbill <fgexbill@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:



Denis & Gary:

My roommate at Naperville who used to work at Apple did note that the small
CD's will not work w/Apple computers so it will be important to have these
on the WT website for downloading. CogGHS will need to have these for their
"Vents" or have a link to your site for those instructions.

Although I looked at the Vent kit and do not think I need the instructions,
I would like to look at them just to make sure.

Bill Welch



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Re: Wright Trak CD instructions & Apple Computors

Jack Burgess
 

Gary mentioned at the Naperville that the instructions would be posted on
their website. They aren't yet but neither is the M53 box car.

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Wright Trak CD instructions & Apple Computors

Tim O'Connor
 

Nah, you just need to get rid of that toy computer (Mac)
and buy a real one. :-)

Tim O'Connor

My roommate at Naperville who used to work at Apple did note that
the small CD's will not work w/Apple computers so it will be
important to have these on the WT website for downloading.
This is an important point. Many prototype modelers run Macs,
(proportionally way more than in the general population), so we need
an alternative source for the instructions.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: Looking for a Sunshine Mini-kit

pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
 

I was pretty sure it is as you described, thus I'm throwing myself at the mercy of my fellow listers in the hopes of turning up a couple of those particular mini-kits.
Hope springs eternal.
Pierre Oliver

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Jim & Lisa Hayes" <jimandlisa97225@...> wrote:

Pierre, since the Wabash auto car was a Naperville gift way back in 1999,
it's very unlikely Sunshine would've had any on its mini-kit rack. Last week
I talked with Tricia a bit about mini-kits. Sometimes someone gives them
some masters. Sometimes someone says "If you take the doors from this and an
end from that and put them on a plastic boxcar, you have a great model of a
whatever." So then when he has time, Martin makes a few castings, has a
minimum number of decals printed and 'presto', a mini-kit is born. Note the
words few and minimum. Tricia says they don't make much, if any, money on
mini-kits and ,in almost every case, when they're gone, they're gone.
Although I have seen an occasional one pop up again. So, it's unlikely
you'll find one but hope springs eternal. Keep checking that mini-kit rack.
And eBay.

And, to reiterate for those few who don't already know this, mini-kits can't
be ordered. They're sold only at shows Sunshine attends, and the selection
is constantly changing.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


Re: 8 Hatch Canadian Reefers

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
Yes, but since ALL freight cars in the 1950's had steel underframes it is very reasonable to think that the car does NOT have an all steel superstructure... I think the ORER entries for the 1955 GTW reefers are simply misleading, if not erroneous.
I'd agree.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Wright Trak CD instructions & Apple Computors

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Nov 5, 2009, at 9:29 AM, lnbill wrote:

Denis & Gary:

My roommate at Naperville who used to work at Apple did note that
the small CD's will not work w/Apple computers so it will be
important to have these on the WT website for downloading.
This is an important point. Many prototype modelers run Macs,
(proportionally way more than in the general population), so we need
an alternative source for the instructions.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: 8 Hatch Canadian Reefers

Tim O'Connor
 

Garth Groff wrote

... there is nothing in the term "steel underframe" that demands
a wooden superstructure ...

Yes, but since ALL freight cars in the 1950's had steel underframes
it is very reasonable to think that the car does NOT have an all steel
superstructure... I think the ORER entries for the 1955 GTW reefers are
simply misleading, if not erroneous.

Tim O'Connor


Re: 8 Hatch Canadian Reefers

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Steve Lucas wrote:
Id venture that the ORER data you cite is in error. This serves as a caution to those relying on ORER data.
No, the data DO NOT state the cars have either wood OR steel superstructures, so cannot be in error. However, most railroads (including CN) reserved the term in question for wood-sheathed cars. It is, in effect, my error to have applied that expectation to GTW cars.
It is also possible, of course, that the GTW employee(s) responsible for ORER submissions did not bother to change the entry for those cars to "all steel." As the term "steel underframe" is ambiguous about sheathing, you may decide for yourself whether or not it should be seen as an error.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Looking for a Sunshine Mini-kit

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

Pierre, since the Wabash auto car was a Naperville gift way back in 1999,
it's very unlikely Sunshine would've had any on its mini-kit rack. Last week
I talked with Tricia a bit about mini-kits. Sometimes someone gives them
some masters. Sometimes someone says "If you take the doors from this and an
end from that and put them on a plastic boxcar, you have a great model of a
whatever." So then when he has time, Martin makes a few castings, has a
minimum number of decals printed and 'presto', a mini-kit is born. Note the
words few and minimum. Tricia says they don't make much, if any, money on
mini-kits and ,in almost every case, when they're gone, they're gone.
Although I have seen an occasional one pop up again. So, it's unlikely
you'll find one but hope springs eternal. Keep checking that mini-kit rack.
And eBay.

And, to reiterate for those few who don't already know this, mini-kits can't
be ordered. They're sold only at shows Sunshine attends, and the selection
is constantly changing.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
www.sunshinekits.com


Re: Wright Trak M53/M53A

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

Trainfest is hell on resin makers. Both Martin and Al tried it once and never returned. Wish you luck : )

Clark Propst

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "smokymtn28805" <jimking3@...> wrote:

Robert,

Yes, Gary Wright told me he sold out the first run (78 kits) in just a few hours and could have sold more up until late Saturday afternoon. I'm now making another 100 and, based on our chat yesterday, at least 50 are already spoken for. He'll be at Milwaukee's Train Fest next weekend. After that show, he'll have time to regroup and start filling orders via mail.

The M53/M53A has been HUGELY popular; far more than we originally thought, which is a good problem to have. Even my S scale version has sold 167 which is great for the "secret scale".

Jim King
SMMW


Re: Naperville Proto Modelers Seminar photos

Larry Kline
 

Eric Hansmann asked:
Has anyone posted images from the Naperville event yet?

From the RPM-Forum Yahoo Group:
Posted by: "mgoedert" mgoedert@gmail.com mgoedert
Sun Nov 1, 2009 12:27 pm (PST)

Hello:

I have posted a large amount of photos from the last RPM meet in
Naperville IL. this weekend. Once again there were a lot of great
models this year on display. I personally thank everyone who brought a
model as the display room is my favorite part of the show.

Please enjoy the photos at:
http://www.MrTrains.com

If you have any questions or corrections to the site please feel free
to contact me.

- Mark N. Goedert



Eric Hansmann asked:
Has anyone posted images from the Naperville event yet?


Wright Trak CD instructions & Apple Computors

Bill Welch
 

Denis & Gary:

My roommate at Naperville who used to work at Apple did note that the small CD's will not work w/Apple computers so it will be important to have these on the WT website for downloading. CogGHS will need to have these for their "Vents" or have a link to your site for those instructions.

Although I looked at the Vent kit and do not think I need the instructions, I would like to look at them just to make sure.

Bill Welch


Rails Unlimited ACL K-7 41'6" Lowside Gondola

Justin Kahn
 

Some months ago I bought one of Ted Schnepf's resin O scale kits (there are a few such
in O scale--just not nearly so many as HO modelers have available) and his instruction sheet
(which unhappily has very little information) is keyed to the 2007 issue from the SCL
modelers website, now deleted. Are there any currently-accessible images of this car online?
As it is, I don't even know what the B-end of the car looks like, nor the brake gear on the
underframe (apparently it was built with a K-2 system, perhaps upgraded to AB at a later date).

Jace Kahn, General Manager

Ceres and Canisteo RR Co.




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Naperville Proto Modelers Seminar photos

Eric Hansmann
 

Has anyone posted images from the Naperville event yet?

Eric




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Re: Wabash 19000 auto box

cef39us <cfrench@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "mopacfirst" <ron.merrick@...> wrote:

I bought a Sunshine mini-kit for the Wabash 19000-19124 homebuilt double-door box with Superior doors. The intent of this kit is to modify the Life-Like (P2K) box. So far so good, and the Superior doors provided seem to fit perfectly in the Life-Like door opening, which is taller than Branchline et al. Probably not supposed to be that tall, but that's not what I am interested in. The notes in the kit allude to early Youngstown doors used in the lower range of this series, up to about 19050. I don't have pictures either way, so can somebody confirm this? The Wabash diagram copy in the instructions shows Y'town doors, but it shows end doors also, probably because it's a combined stenciling drawing that also covers another class.

I'm actually taking the Superior doors to do a car for a close neighbor of the Wabash, so it's be neat if I could also build a Wabash car with Youngstown doors.


I have not found any information showing at which car the door change
was made. I have not found a photo of one of the cars with Youngstown
doors, although I have several of the cars with the Superior doors,
all numbered above 19050. Twenty five random cars in the 19000 - 19124 series were sent to the Evans Co., in Plymouth, MI, to have
DF utility loaders installed in Dec. 1949 and Jan. 1950. The cars
were renumbered 19275 - 19299.

I did send Ron a scan showing Youngtown doors installed on one of the 18000 series end door auto cars that were built at the same time at the 19000's series cars in 1942.

Chet French
Dixon, IL


Re: 8 Hatch Canadian Reefers

Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Steve and Tony,

I think this is just an misunderstanding of how the data in the ORER is presented. My March 1958 ORER shows three blocks of GTW reefers. The first has a note saying "steel underframe", and this is continued by ditto marks to the other two following blocks. However, there is nothing in the term "steel underframe" that demands a wooden superstructure, though that is how we usually interpret these listings. In any case, the 8-hatch cars ARE there in my ORER (they were built in 1955). The photo shown in Harrison's book is undated, but it must have been taken before 28 February 1957, as that was the end of operation over this line. I'm no expert on old automobiles, but one of the cars alongside the train appears to be a 1955 or 1956 model.

Kind regards,


Garth Groff

steve l wrote:

Tony--

There's a colour photo of GTW 206426 on page 68 of January, 1996 RMC (another photo of GTW 206476[?]on page 61 of Feb., 1996 RMC). It's an all-steel reefer, almost an exact copy of the CN cars. Page 69 of that issue has a complete table by Stafford Swain of CN overhead-ice-bunker cars and numbers in service at various dates. The 100 GTW cars, 206400-206499 are listed as being built in 1955. Pages 70/71 have HO scale drawings of these cars.

Id venture that the ORER data you cite is in error. This serves as a caution to those relying on ORER data.

Steve Lucas.


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Ian Cranstone wrote:

Tony, it's true that GTW had no steel reefers in 1953, but they did receive 100 all-steel 8-hatch copies of the Canadian design built by Pacific Car & Foundry in 1955 -- check that 1958 ORER again and look for the 206400 series
For the series 206400-206499, the January 1958 ORER says "refrig., steel underframe," as it does for the other reefers listed, and as it did for all the reefers in 1953. Are you saying this is an error?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history




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Re: freight car kit discounts

Mark
 

I just placed an order at F and C for ten kits, five are free and free shipping!

Mark

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "ed_mines" <ed_mines@...> wrote:

I recently bought 7 for the price of 3 from them through the mail.

Ed

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Miller" <aslmmiller@> wrote:

As far as I know F&C always offers 2 for 1 at show and by mail throught their flyer.

regards,

Andy Miller (who will be running F&C PRR MP54s at the North Shore Model RR Club Open house this week end)
----- Original Message -----
From: ed_mines
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:44 PM
Subject: [STMFC] freight car kit discounts


Anyone know somewhere which discounts Atlas 1932 box cars?

Has F&C recently been offering 2 for one at shows?

Any of the other resin manufacturers having sales?

Ed





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Looking for a Sunshine Mini-kit

pierreoliver2003 <pierre.oliver@...>
 

Hello all,
I'm looking for 2-3 of the Sunshine Mini-Kits #4.
For converting a P2K 50' into a Wabash Auto car.
I neglected to ask Martin about these last weekend. They were originally a gift, so I don't know if they're still available from Sunshine.
Contact me off list please.
Pierre Oliver


Re: 8 Hatch Canadian Reefers

steve l <stevelucas3@...>
 

Tony--

There's a colour photo of GTW 206426 on page 68 of January, 1996 RMC (another photo of GTW 206476[?]on page 61 of Feb., 1996 RMC). It's an all-steel reefer, almost an exact copy of the CN cars. Page 69 of that issue has a complete table by Stafford Swain of CN overhead-ice-bunker cars and numbers in service at various dates. The 100 GTW cars, 206400-206499 are listed as being built in 1955. Pages 70/71 have HO scale drawings of these cars.

Id venture that the ORER data you cite is in error. This serves as a caution to those relying on ORER data.

Steve Lucas.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Thompson <thompson@...> wrote:

Ian Cranstone wrote:
Tony, it's true that GTW had no steel reefers in 1953, but they did
receive 100 all-steel 8-hatch copies of the Canadian design built by
Pacific Car & Foundry in 1955 -- check that 1958 ORER again and look
for the 206400 series
For the series 206400-206499, the January 1958 ORER says
"refrig., steel underframe," as it does for the other reefers listed,
and as it did for all the reefers in 1953. Are you saying this is an
error?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@...
Publishers of books on railroad history

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