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Re: Looking for RDG XMu article info

Brian Leppert <b.leppert@...>
 

Brian,

The Bee Line, the official publication of the Reading Co. Tech. and Hist. Society, had two articles on these cars.

Vol. 19 #3 of 1997, had a six page article on the XMt box cars, built 1925.

Vol. 20 #3 of 1998, had a ten page article on the XMu box cars, built 1930.

I don't recall Mainline Modeler ever doing anything about these cars.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

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From: "llamsus" <Llams@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 11:51 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Looking for RDG XMu article info


Good Day All,

I have been told that Mainline Modeler did a feature article on the
RDG XMu boxcar. I've tried searching the online indexes but couldn't
find anything. Anyone know of this article? I am specifically
interested to know if the car represented in the plans is from the
first (1925?) or second batch (1930?).

Thanks

Brian


Re: Looking for RDG XMu article info

Larry Kline
 

I can't find a Mainline Modeler article either but the following articles may be useful. The rosters in these articles list the 1925 cars as class XMt. The Bee Line is the publication of the Reading Technical & Historical Society. Both issues below are listed as available on their web site.
http://www.readingrailroad.org/reference/ref_beeline.html

Modeling four older Reading boxcars, John Gruber, RMC, 11-92, pp 85-88

USRA derivative boxcars, Eric Neubauer, RMC, 1-95, pp 73-76

Readings XMu boxcars, John Hall, The Bee Line, V 19 No 3 1997, pp 19-24
Readings XMu boxcars, John Hall, The Bee Line, V 20 No 3 1998, pp 10-19

Larry Kline
Pittsburgh, PA

Brian asked:
I have been told that Mainline Modeler did a feature article on the RDG XMu boxcar. I've tried searching the online indexes but couldn't find anything. Anyone know of this article? I am specifically interested to know if the car represented in the plans is from the first (1925?) or second batch (1930?).


Re: B&M XM-1 Boxcar Decals for HO, circa 1942?

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

Jason, I used Champ 'road name' and data sets on mine.
Clark Propst


Re: Alton boxcar

Ray Breyer
 

bill davis <billcheri72@...> wrote:
>>While in Chicago area I went to the Illinois RR Museum. There was a
>>outside braced door and a half boxcar that I was told was an Alton car
>>later a C&IM car. Does anyone have information on this car and are
>>there any plans for it. Thanks for any help here.


Hi Bill,

C&A 39000-39249, Pullman 1924. To GM&O 39000-39249 in 1947. 2 cars on roster in 7/1950, off roster by 1/1951.

I've got one photo of the car at IRM, plus the Alton's 1924 diagram page for the car, which is about as close as you're likely to get to a "plan" for these cars. I'll email them to you offlist.

Regards,

Ray Breyer


Re: Alton boxcar

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Bill Davis asked:
"While in Chicago area I went to the Illinois RR Museum. There was a
outside braced door and a half boxcar that I was told was an Alton car
later a C&IM car. Does anyone have information on this car and are
there any plans for it."

First, "outside braced" is a modelers term that really means nothing.
These cars are more properly referred to as single sheathed boxcars.

Here's the listing from the IRM website:
http://www.irm.org/cgi-bin/rsearch.cgi?
freight=Chicago+&+Illinois+Midland=X-81

Do you have photo that you can upload?


Ben Hom


Alton boxcar

bill davis <billcheri72@...>
 

Hi All,
While in Chicago area I went to the Illinois RR Museum. There was a outside braced door and a half boxcar that I was told was an Alton car later a C&IM car. Does anyone have information on this car and are there any plans for it. Thanks for any help here.
BILL


Looking for RDG XMu article info

llamsus <Llams@...>
 

Good Day All,

I have been told that Mainline Modeler did a feature article on the
RDG XMu boxcar. I've tried searching the online indexes but couldn't
find anything. Anyone know of this article? I am specifically
interested to know if the car represented in the plans is from the
first (1925?) or second batch (1930?).

Thanks

Brian


B&M XM-1 Boxcar Decals for HO, circa 1942?

parkcitybranch <parkcitybranch@...>
 

I am looking for some decals to do an Overland Models Boston and Maine
XM-1 boxcar. Any suggestions on decals for this car? I model 1942.
I saw that F&C does a minute man decal for the car but I think I read
somewhere the minuteman scheme wasn't introduced until 1946.

Jason Sanford


Duryea underframe usage

mcindoefalls
 

I've been under the impression that the Duryea underframe was an early
form of what became known as a "cushion" underframe in the 60's. So I
can certainly understand its application to boxcars. And I suppose
some flatcar and gondola loads would benefit from a cushion underframe.

But I see that Duryea underframes were even applied to hoppers. Why?

Walt Lankenau


Re: Duryea UF, was Re: New Bulkhead HO scale 70-ton flatcar

Lawrence Rast
 

Any chance you'll be sharing those pics? I sure would love to see them.

Best,
Lawrence Rast

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:41 PM, william darnaby
<WDarnaby@...> wrote:

Be wary of any instructions in the Sunshine kit as it seems they rarely get
it correct concerning Duryea UF's. Their B&O M55 version is completely
wrong for example. A couple of weekends ago I photographed the Duryea UF of
an ex-B&O M26d or e in a park north of Milan, OH and, while many of the
details found in Sunshine kits are there, the parts application and
orientation are different from any Sunshine instructions I have seen.

Bill Darnaby

In a message dated 10/22/2008 4:44:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jimandlisa97225@... writes:

Sunshine sells "4 General American Duryea underframe parts/details for
modification of plastic & resin 40' boxcar kits" which might be useful.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon

-----Original Message-----


Does anyone make a Duryea underframe conversion kit? Or is the
best thing
to fake it by extending the coupler pockets?

Rich Orr
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Duryea UF, was Re: New Bulkhead HO scale 70-ton flatcar

Bill Darnaby
 

Be wary of any instructions in the Sunshine kit as it seems they rarely get it correct concerning Duryea UF's. Their B&O M55 version is completely wrong for example. A couple of weekends ago I photographed the Duryea UF of an ex-B&O M26d or e in a park north of Milan, OH and, while many of the details found in Sunshine kits are there, the parts application and orientation are different from any Sunshine instructions I have seen.

Bill Darnaby

In a message dated 10/22/2008 4:44:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jimandlisa97225@... writes:

Sunshine sells "4 General American Duryea underframe parts/details for
modification of plastic & resin 40' boxcar kits" which might be useful.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon

-----Original Message-----


Does anyone make a Duryea underframe conversion kit? Or is the
best thing
to fake it by extending the coupler pockets?

Rich Orr

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Re: Freight Car Images From The Wisconsin Historical Society’s Website

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi list members,

Thanks Bob.

Some more nice images from this site. The url's are long and will need to be re-combined into one line after the email program gets thru with them. I'm including the image id (I assume one can use this to bring up the image) in case the urls are totally unusable.

- Claus Schlund

Image ID: 21670
Cincinnati Northern Auto box
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullRecord.asp?id=21670&qstring=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewisconsinhistory%2Eorg%2Fwhi%2Fresults%2Easp%3Fpageno%3D35%26keyword1%3Drailroad%26search%5Ftype%3Dbasic%26sort%5Fby%3Ddate

Image ID: 17807
C&NW flat
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullRecord.asp?id=17807&qstring=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewisconsinhistory%2Eorg%2Fwhi%2Fresults%2Easp%3Fpageno%3D38%26keyword1%3Drailroad%26search%5Ftype%3Dbasic%26sort%5Fby%3Ddate

Image ID: 48988
BREX reefer
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullRecord.asp?id=48988&qstring=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewisconsinhistory%2Eorg%2Fwhi%2Fresults%2Easp%3Fpageno%3D40%26keyword1%3Drailroad%26search%5Ftype%3Dbasic%26sort%5Fby%3Ddate

URTX reefer
Image ID: 9479
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullRecord.asp?id=9479&qstring=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewisconsinhistory%2Eorg%2Fwhi%2Fresults%2Easp%3Fpageno%3D41%26keyword1%3Drailroad%26search%5Ftype%3Dbasic%26sort%5Fby%3Ddate

CGW box car
Image ID: 46459
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullRecord.asp?id=46459&qstring=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewisconsinhistory%2Eorg%2Fwhi%2Fresults%2Easp%3Fpageno%3D41%26keyword1%3Drailroad%26search%5Ftype%3Dbasic%26sort%5Fby%3Ddate

CB&Q box car
Image ID: 59415
https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullRecord.asp?id=59415&qstring=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ewisconsinhistory%2Eorg%2Fwhi%2Fresults%2Easp%3Fpageno%3D49%26keyword1%3Drailroad%26search%5Ftype%3Dbasic%26sort%5Fby%3Ddate
Image ID: 59415

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro [mailto:thecitrusbelt@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 03:45 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Freight Car Images From The Wisconsin Historical Society’s Website

The Wisconsin Historical Society's website
(http://wisconsinhistory.org/) has several railroad subject images.
Below are links to some of these images. Enjoy.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
===================
A 1912 image of a Frisco Box car. It appears that the upper door
guide has seen a lot of service.

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=9724

New York Central box car image taken in 1917:

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=35439

Unloading fiber at an International Harvester twine mill, c 1948.
Freight car appears to be a Santa Fe box car with map logo.

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=59424

Same activity and location, different box car.:

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=59422

Transferring bodies of a standard gauge box car (of the Wisconsin
Coal Co.) to the narrow gauge trucks of the Fond du Lac, Amboy &
Peoria Railway at Iron Mountain, Wisconsin., c 1900

http://wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=24529

1911 image of rail cars carrying two 150 horse-power boilers for use
in the temporary power plant at the dam construction site at Prairie
du Sac. The cars also carry sections of smoke stack.

http://wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=49515





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Re: Freight Car Images From The Wisconsin Historical Society’s Website

Stokes John
 

Apparently the box was converted, or originally built, to carry coal in bulk, with top loading hatches and side unloading doors. Very interesting arrangement. Would make an interesting model, something to do with those surplus wooden box cars.

John Stokes
bellevue, WA



To: STMFC@...: riverob@...: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:55:23 +0000Subject: [STMFC] Re: Freight Car Images From The Wisconsin Historical Societys Website




It looks like the WCC car has roof hatches.Rob Simpson--- In STMFC@..., "Bob Chaparro" <thecitrusbelt@...> wrote:<sni>> Transferring bodies of a standard gauge box car (of the Wisconsin > Coal Co.) to the narrow gauge trucks of the Fond du Lac, Amboy & > Peoria Railway at Iron Mountain, Wisconsin., c 1900> > http://wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=24529<snip>


Re: Freight Car Images From The Wisconsin Historical Society’s Website

Robert <riverob@...>
 

It looks like the WCC car has roof hatches.

Rob Simpson

--- In STMFC@..., "Bob Chaparro" <thecitrusbelt@...>
wrote:
<sni>
Transferring bodies of a standard gauge box car (of the Wisconsin
Coal Co.) to the narrow gauge trucks of the Fond du Lac, Amboy &
Peoria Railway at Iron Mountain, Wisconsin., c 1900

http://wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=24529
<snip>


Freight Car Images From The Wisconsin Historical Society’s Website

Bob Chaparro <thecitrusbelt@...>
 

The Wisconsin Historical Society's website
(http://wisconsinhistory.org/) has several railroad subject images.
Below are links to some of these images. Enjoy.

Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
===================
A 1912 image of a Frisco Box car. It appears that the upper door
guide has seen a lot of service.

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=9724

New York Central box car image taken in 1917:

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=35439

Unloading fiber at an International Harvester twine mill, c 1948.
Freight car appears to be a Santa Fe box car with map logo.

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=59424

Same activity and location, different box car.:

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=59422

Transferring bodies of a standard gauge box car (of the Wisconsin
Coal Co.) to the narrow gauge trucks of the Fond du Lac, Amboy &
Peoria Railway at Iron Mountain, Wisconsin., c 1900

http://wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=24529

1911 image of rail cars carrying two 150 horse-power boilers for use
in the temporary power plant at the dam construction site at Prairie
du Sac. The cars also carry sections of smoke stack.

http://wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=49515


Re: NYC PMcK&Y USRA S-S box cars

Terry Link <trlink@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "benjaminfrank_hom" <b.hom@...>

Answer: The most under-represented car on steam era layouts, Lot 414-
B is a 1000-car lot of NYC's 8 ft 7 in IH USRA-design steel boxcars,
NYC 180000-180999 (original), renumbered to NYC 101000-101999. If
you take all of the different IH of these cars as a group, the
numbers are on the same order as the PRR X29 fleet.

There was an announcement over 2 years ago that Sun Models was going to produce these cars. Anyone know what the status of these is ?


Terry Link
Bramalea, Ontario, Canada
www.canadasouthern.com


Re: New Bulkhead HO scale 70-ton flatcar

Jim & Lisa Hayes <jimandlisa97225@...>
 

Sunshine sells "4 General American Duryea underframe parts/details for
modification of plastic & resin 40' boxcar kits" which might be useful.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon

-----Original Message-----


Does anyone make a Duryea underframe conversion kit? Or is the
best thing
to fake it by extending the coupler pockets?

Rich Orr


First offset-sides steel coal car

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Folks,

What and when was the first offset-sides construction coal car? I've
the VGN 50000 120-ton gon blt June 1917 by Pressed Stl Car Co and VGN
G4 Class blt in Nov 1920. Earlier N&W 90-ton gons were flush-sides
cars. C&O 100000-10999 91-ton gons were not blt until Feb 1922
(Pressed Stl and Standard Stl car co's).

Did the Pressed Steel Car Company have a patent on this design?

Enterprise has a patent that is similar but for a hopper car
construction in awarded in 1925.

Al Kresse


Re: New Bulkhead HO scale 70-ton flatcar

jim_mischke <jmischke@...>
 

Ted Culotta's Speedwitch makes a Red Caboose M-26 to M-26d/e
conversion fkit and one bundled with a boxcar kit.

The troubles are:

(1) patent research by Bob Witt and myself show that the Duryea
underframe product evolved over time, and B&O always bought the
latest version.

(2) versions for hoppers and boxcars differ a lot.


--- In STMFC@..., SUVCWORR@... wrote:


Does anyone make a Duryea underframe conversion kit? Or is the
best thing
to fake it by extending the coupler pockets?

Rich Orr

In a message dated 10/21/2008 3:21:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jmischke@... writes:


Prototype B&O W-7's had Duryea underframes, so the Accurail triple
bay offset side hopper is not quite right.

I did not help with that one. Nor the 1956 Athearn quad hopper.





--- In STMFC@..., Ed Hawkins <hawk0621@> wrote:


On Oct 15, 2008, at 12:57 PM, jim_mischke wrote:

After watching obscure ATSF and Missouri Pacific versions of
popular
car types come out because of some consultant's favorite
railroad,
it's
feels good to win one.

Jim Mischke
B&OHS Model Committee
Jim,
Uhh, what I don't quite understand is why there wasn't a similar
vague
reference to the obscure Accurail triple offset-side AAR 70-ton
hopper
car that was ONLY correct (albeit poorly rendered Z-sections on
the
ends) for 1,000 B&O W-7 cars produced in 1947. I've often
wondered
how
that "rare" car happened to be selected when there were other
superior
choices. Surely the decision wasn't made by some self-interested
B&O
modeler. At any rate, I'm glad you have learned the process of
how
to
get self-interest models produced. Among other good choices,
could
the
B&O version of the AAR 50-ton hopper car (a car that was built
in
huge
numbers) be far away? <g>
Regards,
Ed Hawkins

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Re: New Bulkhead HO scale 70-ton flatcar

SUVCWORR@...
 

Thanks Jim.

Rich Orr

In a message dated 10/22/2008 4:44:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jimandlisa97225@... writes:

Sunshine sells "4 General American Duryea underframe parts/details for
modification of plastic & resin 40' boxcar kits" which might be useful.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon

-----Original Message-----


Does anyone make a Duryea underframe conversion kit? Or is the
best thing
to fake it by extending the coupler pockets?

Rich Orr

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