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Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

Tony Thompson
 

If only it were in print . . . .

     It's in stock right now. You may be thinking of Volume 3, which is indeed OOP.


Tony Thompson




Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

Richard Townsend
 

If only it were in print . . . .

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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From: Tony Thompson <tony@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2020 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

Richard Townsend wrote:

Here's a new one on me: a 5/4/5/3 end.


    Kitbashed by SP from USRA corrugated ends in the B-50-12A rebuilding. Covered in detail in my book on SP box cars, Volume 4 of the _Southern Pacific Freight Cars_ series.

Tony Thompson




Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

mel perry
 

see also MM 10/92 and RMC 9/03
mel perry


On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 4:51 PM Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend=netscape.net@groups.io> wrote:
Here's a new one on me: a 5/4/5/3 end.


Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

Tony Thompson
 

Richard Townsend wrote:

Here's a new one on me: a 5/4/5/3 end.


    Kitbashed by SP from USRA corrugated ends in the B-50-12A rebuilding. Covered in detail in my book on SP box cars, Volume 4 of the _Southern Pacific Freight Cars_ series.

Tony Thompson




Re: SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

mel perry
 

looks like a b50-12 rebuild?
mel perry


On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 4:51 PM Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend=netscape.net@groups.io> wrote:
Here's a new one on me: a 5/4/5/3 end.


SP 26571 with 5/4/5/3 end

Richard Townsend
 

Here's a new one on me: a 5/4/5/3 end.


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Barry Bennett
 

The door, pulling loops and the roof and running board may need to be changed as most of the NYC cars had been re-roofed with either straight or diagonal panels and all(ish) some iteration of patch panels by the early/mid 50's. You also need to consider the layout of the brake components and remove the plate protecting the 'triple' valve. If you want NYC it may be easier to buy a Westerfield kit and replace the roof, which is what I will do with mine ......eventually, sometime, maybe.

The Canada Southern site has some good info IIRC.

I caused a bit of a flame war when the Broadway NYC cars were being viewed pre-release as they were post war rebuilds with late 50's paint schemes. I commented that they were borderline foobies as they were rot boxes but had no patch panels. BLI were not very complimentary to me. Then I fanned the flames further by noting that not all patch panels were the same, some rivetted, some welded, some tucked under at the top, some overlaid and that it varied with RR, and probably with repair shop, even the whim of the work force.

That got hot enough to roast a chicken. I just laughed myself silly at them, but did glean some good info. I'd just completed a couple of Ted's kits for the LNE and MEC which had different patch methods so patches were very much in my mind.

I've attached a couple of NYC photos for comparison. I also have a lot of NB car photos as I had a friend who was going to model NB but changed his mind.

Barry

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 at 14:38, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 12:20 AM, Barry Bennett wrote:
If you have access to the Vancouver Archive photos you will note that both the NB and the HC reached that city, so not so unlikely to appear in Propst country as presumed.
Barry Bennett, UK.
Thanks Barry. Just looked at them. Great photos! I like the door and pulling loops so might just build the car as is? Need to check my NYC info first tho...
CW Propst
 


Re: Norfolk and Western H2a split side triples

Brad Andonian
 


Jeff,

This is perfect!

My thanks,

On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 10:04 PM, Jeff Coleman <traininsp@...> wrote:

The first 4000, 15500-19499 were built in 1949.

Jeff Coleman

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 12:00 AM Brad Andonian via Groups.Io <cereshill=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
N&W split side h2a

I have found conflicting dates on the actual build dates of these cars.    Yoder has 52/53 but I think that was the rebuild date...  Can anyone please pass me the correct dates?

Thanks,


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Clark Propst
 

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 12:20 AM, Barry Bennett wrote:
If you have access to the Vancouver Archive photos you will note that both the NB and the HC reached that city, so not so unlikely to appear in Propst country as presumed.
Barry Bennett, UK.
Thanks Barry. Just looked at them. Great photos! I like the door and pulling loops so might just build the car as is? Need to check my NYC info first tho...
CW Propst
 


Norfolk and Western H2a split side triples

David
 

Photographs show 24589 (1/53), 25200 (5/53), and 28500 (5/56), so it is likely the N&W-built groups in 24561-25499 (1953) and 28500-29999 (1956).

David Thompson


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Mont Switzer
 

Clark and all,

 

Agreed.  Cement just didn’t get shipped long distances so the cars that hauled it tended to stay close.  Due to lots of cement dust it also became pretty obvious what service they were in.

 

As ready-mix plants popped up all over the country after WWII at least one cement maker shipped it in bulk (covered hoppers) to a central point where it was unloaded into silos and then into trucks for delivery to final destination as needed.  Mitchell, Indiana, and Anderson, IN are about 120 miles apart.

 

Some ready-mix concrete plants were large enough to be served directly by rail, but most small plants got it by truck.  This was very seasonal commodity, also.

 

Pneumatic trailers (“air cans”) made final delivery of cement delivery by truck practical.  Those trailers looked like the covered hoppers hauling cement.

 

Montford L. Switzer

President

Switzer Tank Lines, Inc.

Fall Creek Leasing, LLC.

mswitzer@...

(765) 836-2914

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clark Propst
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 11:08 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Westerfield NB box car

 

With two cement plants within 30 miles and two more twice that distance, a lumber yard on the branch would have to get a great deal on that product  ;  ))
CW Propst

On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:54 AM, Gary Roe wrote:

If you saw a Hannibal Connecting car on your branch line, it would most likely be loaded with bagged cement.

 

gary roe

quincy, illinois


Re: Photo: Freight Yard At The West Bottoms

Mont Switzer
 

The MM cover shot was taken at CNW, Proviso, IL, I believe.  There were a couple of Monon wood boxcars in the shot.  This is all SLSF and a wonderful photo just the same.

 

Mont

 

Montford L. Switzer

President

Switzer Tank Lines, Inc.

Fall Creek Leasing, LLC.

mswitzer@...

(765) 836-2914

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 1:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Freight Yard At The West Bottoms

 

Photo: Freight Yard At The West Bottoms

A 1932 photo from the Kansas City Public Library:

https://pendergastkc.org/collection/9130/20003568/west-bottoms-kersey-coates-drive/30274

Caption: "An autochrome photograph of the West Bottoms and Kansas City Stock Yards as seen looking west from Kersey Coates Drive at its intersection with Beardsley Road, just north of 17th Street. This vantage point shows the St. Louis & San Francisco Railroad in the foreground and the Kansas City Live Stock Exchange Building in the left background."

Scroll on the photo to enlarge it.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Barry Bennett
 

If you have access to the Vancouver Archive photos you will note that both the NB and the HC reached that city, so not so unlikely to appear in Propst country as presumed.

Barry Bennett, UK.

On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 at 03:14, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
Rob and Todd, the kit came with several doors including a corrugated one. I have some Speedwitch NYC decal leftovers I think I can patch something together. I have RP Cyc 21 out. I'll built it as an NYC car tomorrow. Thanks all!
CW Propst


Re: Norfolk and Western H2a split side triples

Jeff Coleman
 

The first 4000, 15500-19499 were built in 1949.

Jeff Coleman

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 12:00 AM Brad Andonian via Groups.Io <cereshill=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
N&W split side h2a

I have found conflicting dates on the actual build dates of these cars.    Yoder has 52/53 but I think that was the rebuild date...  Can anyone please pass me the correct dates?

Thanks,


Norfolk and Western H2a split side triples

Brad Andonian
 

N&W split side h2a

I have found conflicting dates on the actual build dates of these cars.    Yoder has 52/53 but I think that was the rebuild date...  Can anyone please pass me the correct dates?

Thanks,


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Clark Propst
 

Rob and Todd, the kit came with several doors including a corrugated one. I have some Speedwitch NYC decal leftovers I think I can patch something together. I have RP Cyc 21 out. I'll built it as an NYC car tomorrow. Thanks all!
CW Propst


Re: Westerfield NB box car

Clark Propst
 

With two cement plants within 30 miles and two more twice that distance, a lumber yard on the branch would have to get a great deal on that product  ;  ))
CW Propst


On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 11:54 AM, Gary Roe wrote:
If you saw a Hannibal Connecting car on your branch line, it would most likely be loaded with bagged cement.
 
gary roe
quincy, illinois


Re: Flattening resin parts

Jesus Pe�a
 

Eric,

I would like to share a different technique using heat and a vacuum along with a steel plate. 

Hopefully the pictures will tell the story 

Hope this helps 

Jesus Peña 
Concord, California 









On Friday, March 20, 2020, 8:51 AM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

I recently had to flatten a few parts for a resin boxcar kit. I've posted an outline of the process on my blog.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

--
Jesus Peña
Concord,California


Re: To quote Robert Duvall from "Apocalypse Now," . . .

Scott
 

Do you put the chain and rod from the hand brake on after you paint it so the chain doesn't get clogged up with paint?  How do you glue back there?

Scott McDonald 


Re: Bob's Photos

Bill Welch
 

Rich, two groups:

—3200–3449 41-foot GS gons
—17000–17149 low side gons as done by ERTL

Bill Welch

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