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Re: UP B-50-21 box car

Tom Madden <tgmadden@...>
 

Dean Payne wrote:

I would like to model a UP B-50-21 box car, ideally number 185245 (it
shows up in a photo of the last W&LE passenger train in July, 1938).
I've searched and can find no commercial offerings of this series. I
was hoping it would be one of the ACR boxcars built the same year, the
subject of the latest Essential Freight Cars, but those are B-50-22!
I searched the archives, a Red Caboose kit might work, but the B-50-21
used a welded underframe. The Speedwich underframe is correct for the
B-50-24/27 and B-50-30/32 cars, I wonder would it work for the
B-50-21? Are there any other detail changes that would be needed?
The B-50-21 is covered in Terry Metcalfe's book UNION PACIFIC FREIGHT
CARS 1936-1951. Several photos plus folio sheet. A photo of the welded
underframe, by Ryan Car Co., is in the April 1938 issue of RAILWAY
MECHANICAL ENGINEER as part of a larger article on the B-50-21. (That
from a photo caption in Terry's book.) The B-50-21 does _not_ have ACR
sides, but there are four rivets in the center of each side panel in a
widely spaced, staggered pattern. The square corner 10'-0" IH IMWX/RC
boxcar looks like the best starting point.

Tom Madden


Re: Alco marine boilers via rail - was Bruce Smith's boiler

Don Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

Thanks for the photo sent privately, Bruce. In viewing it, it is difficult to tell whether one is looking at the opposite end from the four in the CPR train or if it is actually a different type of boiler, though the size looks to be about the same. Those I have photos of all have solid ends with what appear to be flues through them in a pattern similar to what you have but without the three large, circular openings in them. The only other differences I note are minor in the way they are loaded. These all have a third tie-down over the center of the boiler to the middle of the flat car deck, the crossed ties are attached more toward the center of the boiler and there are the previously mentioned four brackets for attaching cable slings to unload these things.
 
    I am still wondering (1.) how many different types of these things Alco made and
 (2.) how many different shipyards they were transported to?
 
Thanks again for the photo, Don Valentine

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Bruce Smith <smithbf@vetmed.auburn.edu> wrote:

From: Bruce Smith <smithbf@vetmed.auburn.edu>
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Alco marine boilers via rail - was Bruce Smith's boiler
To: "Donald B. Valentine" <riverman_vt@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 4:15 PM

On Sat, January 17, 2009 10:44 am, Donald B. Valentine wrote:
The comments regarding Bruce Smith's Alco built marine boiler flat
car load are much of interest to me. Can someone provide a URL to
find the photo of it refered to? I cannot find it on Archer's site,
nor can I access the STMFC photos section for reasons unknown at
present.
Don,

I've attached a JPEG for you. Interesting story!

Regards
Bruce




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UP B-50-21 box car

Dean Payne
 

I would like to model a UP B-50-21 box car, ideally number 185245 (it
shows up in a photo of the last W&LE passenger train in July, 1938).
I've searched and can find no commercial offerings of this series. I
was hoping it would be one of the ACR boxcars built the same year, the
subject of the latest Essential Freight Cars, but those are B-50-22!
I searched the archives, a Red Caboose kit might work, but the B-50-21
used a welded underframe. The Speedwich underframe is correct for the
B-50-24/27 and B-50-30/32 cars, I wonder would it work for the
B-50-21? Are there any other detail changes that would be needed?

Dean Payne


Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

Mark Pierce <marcoperforar@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "David Smith" <dlsio4@...> wrote:

Just downloaded just fine - ~5 minutes on my cable modem using
Firefox 3
and Download Statusbar Add-on.
Five minutes?, and I thought my Internet connection was slow. My four-
year-old computer received the mag in under a minute, each of the three
different occasions. And the freight car article turned out more
interesting than I'd thought.

Mark Pierce


Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

David Smith
 

Just an update - if you are using a Mac with OS 10.5, you will have a
problem with the media files They estimate they will have it fixed for
Monday. There's a troubleshooting page on the site with links to all the
updates you will need (Acrobat Reader, Flash, and Quick Time).

Dave Smith

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 5:25 PM, David Smith <dlsio4@gmail.com> wrote:

Just downloaded just fine - ~5 minutes on my cable modem using Firefox 3
and Download Statusbar Add-on. I'm getting 180-240 KB/sec throughput with 45
people logged onto the site, so there's nothing wrong with the bandwidth on
their side. It's not a simple right-click download, so make sure you are
using an up-to-date browser that can handle the scripting or whatever it is
they did.

Also, it's a zip file, so it won't open directly with Acrobat Reader - you
need an unzip utility first - 7-Zip is a good free one.

You will need the very latest version of Adobe Reader to open it. It
crashed Preview on my Mac.

Dave Smith


On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Schuyler Larrabee <
schuyler.larrabee@verizon.net> wrote:

> From: On Behalf Of Ernie Valentine

Subject: [STMFC] Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

I have played around trying to download the magazine for about two hours
on
high speed with no luck. I hope the editor hurries up with the "lite
edition". Hopefully I can download that. I did enjoy the 1960's Kansas
City photos.

Ernie V

All you need is Adobe Reader 9 to download.

Roger Robar
I have 9, and a fast connection, and "the operation timed out." There's
more to it than just what
reader you have. I plan to try again.

SGL




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Please consider the environment before printing this email.

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Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

David Smith
 

Just downloaded just fine - ~5 minutes on my cable modem using Firefox 3
and Download Statusbar Add-on. I'm getting 180-240 KB/sec throughput with 45
people logged onto the site, so there's nothing wrong with the bandwidth on
their side. It's not a simple right-click download, so make sure you are
using an up-to-date browser that can handle the scripting or whatever it is
they did.

Also, it's a zip file, so it won't open directly with Acrobat Reader - you
need an unzip utility first - 7-Zip is a good free one.

You will need the very latest version of Adobe Reader to open it. It
crashed Preview on my Mac.

Dave Smith

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Schuyler Larrabee <
schuyler.larrabee@verizon.net> wrote:

> From: On Behalf Of Ernie Valentine

Subject: [STMFC] Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

I have played around trying to download the magazine for about two hours
on
high speed with no luck. I hope the editor hurries up with the "lite
edition". Hopefully I can download that. I did enjoy the 1960's Kansas
City photos.

Ernie V

All you need is Adobe Reader 9 to download.

Roger Robar
I have 9, and a fast connection, and "the operation timed out." There's
more to it than just what
reader you have. I plan to try again.

SGL




--
David L. Smith
Da Vinci Science Center
Allentown, PA
http://www.davinci-center.org

Please consider the environment before printing this email.

Everything that needs to be said has already been said. But since no one was
listening, everything must be said again. -- Andre Gide


Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

Jack Burgess
 

When I downloaded the zipped version several days ago, I got it in probably
less than 5 minutes on a broadband connection. It might be that the number
of downloads trying to go on simultaneously now is downgrading the
performance of the server.

Jack Burgess
www.yosemitevalleyrr.com


Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

Schuyler Larrabee
 

From: On Behalf Of Ernie Valentine

Subject: [STMFC] Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

I have played around trying to download the magazine for about two hours on
high speed with no luck. I hope the editor hurries up with the "lite
edition". Hopefully I can download that. I did enjoy the 1960's Kansas
City photos.

Ernie V

All you need is Adobe Reader 9 to download.

Roger Robar
I have 9, and a fast connection, and "the operation timed out." There's more to it than just what
reader you have. I plan to try again.

SGL


Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

pdsteam@...
 

Guys, the reader has nothing to do with the download or the download speed.
Your computer speed does have small affect on the download time but not a
huge amount unless you have a REALLY old computer.
The real hiccups come from their server, their hosting speed and your
hosting speed (the "network connection" )

Be careful when you "download" that you are not trying to open the file
instead of saving it. If that is the case then it will take a looong time to
open and most probably you will get some timeout errors.

PeteC



In a message dated 1/17/2009 4:36:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
schuyler.larrabee@verizon.net writes:

From: On Behalf Of Ernie Valentine

Subject: [STMFC] Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

I have played around trying to download the magazine for about two hours on
high speed with no luck. I hope the editor hurries up with the "lite
edition". Hopefully I can download that. I did enjoy the 1960's Kansas
City photos.

Ernie V

All you need is Adobe Reader 9 to download.

Roger Robar
I have 9, and a fast connection, and "the operation timed out." There's
more to it than just what
reader you have. I plan to try again.

SGL


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Re: GN frt cars in interchange

Staffan Ehnbom <staffan.ehnbom@...>
 

Mike,

Thank you very much for takeing the trouble to provide me with these examples last September. Soon after I had posted my request for info on GN cars on foreign roads, I realized I would have to cancel my trip to Naperville and so put the presentation subject on hold. But I'm resuming activities on the subject now trying to find out, if I can make something of it.

The info you supplied was a little extra as there was a flat and hoppers, a lot less common than just box cars. I appreciated your contribution, thank you.

Staffan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Aufderheide" <mononinmonon@yahoo.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] GN frt cars in interchange


Staffan,

The following GN cars from Monon conductors logs from mid 1948 to early 1950. This information only as far as it concerned the work for that day. Most final destinations are unknown. I have included interchanges for the pick-up and destination stations listed. I know the car was left at that station but not if it was interchanged or sent to a local industry.

Date, Train, Road, Type, Number, Contents, Picked Up, Left, Destination.

8/10/48 Train X26N GN flat #66143 "tank" load picked up Ladoga IN, left Lafayette IN, dest Chicago.

8/23/48 Train 42 (nb local) GN box #47856 mty picked up Bloomington IN, left Romney IN, dest Romney.

9/24/48 Train 43 (sb local) GN hopper #73290 "coal" load picked up Wallace Jct. IN, left Bloomington IN, dest Gosport Jct. (PRR interchange) [likely loaded on Monon's Midland Branch.]

1/10/49 Train X63N GN box #45461 "lime stone" load picked up Limedale IN, left Bainbridge IN, dest Lafayette Jct (WAB, NYC, NKP interchange)

10/1/49 Train 73 (sb through frt) GN auto boxcar #43564 "springs" load picked up Linden IN (NKP Interchange) left Bloomington IN, dest L&N in Louisville. [load may be for Ford in Louisville]

10/9/49 Train 72 (nb through frt) GN box #51232 "merchandise" load picked up Bloomington IN, left Lafayette IN, dest Monon IN freight transfer shed.


11/24/49 Train 43 (sb local) GN box #51184 "lumber" load picked up Lafayette IN, left Roachdale IN, dest. Roachdale. (BO interchange)

12/26/49 Train X65N GN hopper #73546 "company coal" load picked up Midland IN, left Wallace Jct. IN, dest Bloomington IN. [ for roundhouse or derrick? steam locomotives are gone by this date)

2/5/50 Train 72 (nb through frt) GN box #11184 "earth" load picked up Ames IN (PRR, NYC interchange) left Bloomington IN, dest Chicago.

2/27/50 Train 71 (sb through frt) GN box #52069 "lime stone" load picked up Limedale IN (PRR interchange) left Lafayette IN, dest Alida IN (BO interchange)


Regards,

Mike Aufderheide



--- On Sun, 8/31/08, frtcar <staffan.ehnbom@telia.com> wrote:

From: frtcar <staffan.ehnbom@telia.com>
Subject: [STMFC] GN frt cars in interchange
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 3:23 PM






I intend to try and do a clinic on Great Northern freight cars in
interchange and would love to hear samples of GN cars shown to be
on "foreign"roads. I would appreciate receiveing info on the GN car
number, location or in a train headed where from where? Info on what
the load was, perhaps even where originated and where bound for, if
applicable, would be "icing on the cake". If my e-mail can't be deduced
from the posting it is staffan dot ehnbom at telia dot com.

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Re: Prototype Rails 2009 Photos - Silver SAL beer car?

benjaminfrank_hom <b.hom@...>
 

Fritz Milhaupt wrote:
"The photos I've checked so far all show shop dates of 9/64 or later."

How many times do we have to say this - it's NOT a "shop date", IT'S A
REWEIGH DATE!


Ben Hom


Re: Prototype Rails 2009 Photos - Silver SAL beer car?

Fritz Milhaupt
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


I've seen a picture of a silver SAL PS-1 on the GN in Montana,
but I think that was in the 1960's. Did SAL paint cars this way
prior to 1961?

Tim O'Connor

Hmmm... The photos I've checked so far all show shop dates of 9/64 or
later.

I'll withdraw the question as most likely being out-of-scope for this
group.

-Fritz Milhaupt
Web Guy, Operations Road Show
http://www.railsonwhels.com/ors


Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

rfederle@...
 

I too have a high speed internet connection and I downloaded in less than 20 minutes. I only have Adobe 7.0 and about 95% was readable. I have since downloaded the Adobe 9.0. But, even with the older version I was still able to download.

Robert Federle
---- Roger Robar <rrobar@roadrunner.com> wrote:





_____

From: On Behalf Of Ernie Valentine

Subject: [STMFC] Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine



I have played around trying to download the magazine for about two hours on
high speed with no luck. I hope the editor hurries up with the "lite
edition". Hopefully I can download that. I did enjoy the 1960's Kansas
City photos.

Ernie V

All you need is Adobe Reader 9 to download.

Roger Robar
,_._,___





Re: Prototype Rails 2009 Photos - Silver SAL beer car?

Tim O'Connor
 

I've seen a picture of a silver SAL PS-1 on the GN in Montana,
but I think that was in the 1960's. Did SAL paint cars this way
prior to 1961?

Tim O'Connor

Thanks for posting your Prototype Rails 2009 photos. 'looks like a
whole lot of good modeling on display.

I was interested to see you identify the silver Seaboard boxcar as a
car in beer service, and am curious as to what this assignment
entailed, specifically where these distinctive-looking cars originated
and ran. From the stenciling, obviously Tampa was one end of its run,
but for whom and to where?

I see from the archive that this was brought up when Kadee released
their silver SAL PS-1 in 2003, but we never seemed to come to an
answer. Anyone know?

-Fritz Milhaupt
Web Guy, Operations Road Show
http://www.railsonwheels.com/ors


Re: Alco marine boilers via rail - was Bruce Smith's boiler

Dan Gledhill
 

hello,
          The boilers shown on the flatcars are a Scotch Marine style ,usually put into cargo type vessels and also tugboat or general slower work type vessels.They were a reliable but somewhat slower steaming type of marine firetube boiler ,probably also cheaper to build.Naval vessels during WW2 would have used faster steaming and more efficient water tube type boilers more commonly found these days and probably not constructed by a locomotive builder such as Alco.Some large shipyards actually built their own boilers during the era of WW2 so shipping a boiler that big back then would have been less common before and after the war.
                                Dan Gledhill

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@yahoo.com>
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Alco marine boilers via rail - was Bruce Smith's boiler
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 11:44 AM






The comments regarding Bruce Smith's Alco built marine boiler flat
car load are much of interest to me. Can someone provide a URL to
find the photo of it refered to? I cannot find it on Archer's site,
nor can I access the STMFC photos section for reasons unknown at
present.

Someone has metnioned that there was one yard on each coast to
which such boilers were shipped. Can that really be correct? Or
perhaps the better question might be how many different types of
marine boiler did Alco construct for the war effort, how many were
transported by rail and to what shipyards did they go to?

It has taken me a while to find what I was looking for but this
morning I have been successful. I have two photos of such loads
coming thorugh Vermont over the Canadian Pacific's Lyndonville
Subdivision, this being former B&M trackage between Newport and St.
Johnsbury, VT. I believe the photos were taken in Barnet, VT. In this
case there were four flat car loads of them. Uncle Warren Fancher,
who took the photos, stated that they were Liberty Ship boilers but
that may or may not have been the case. The information I was given
on these moves over thirty-five years ago is that the boilers were
routed via the D&H - B&M - Rutland - B&M -CPR and MEC. This sounds
like they went to the Rutland at White Creek, NY, were thence carried
to Bellows Falls, VT to the B&M again and thus avoiding Hoosac
Tunnel, before being carried up the Connecticut River lines to St.
Johnsbury, where they were turned over to the Maine Central for
delivery to Todd-Bath Iron Shipbuilding Co. shipyard in So. Portland,
Maine. This was a 381 mile routing due to clearance problems rather
than the direct route of only 283 miles. While I was told that there
were thirty such shipments of three boilers each the two photos I
have clearly show four boilers on four different cars. These
movements began in the summer of 1941. The boilers were stasted to
have been 17 ft. 7 in. high, 12 ft. 6 in. wide and weighed 102,000
lbs. and for "cargo vessels". Each of these boilers was on a drop
center flat car and had four brackets to which cables could be
attached for loading/unloading.

Hope this adds to our collective knowledge of such loads but would
like to learn a lot more about them in New England.

Take care, Don Valentine

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups. com, Bruce Smith <smithbf@... > wrote:


On Jan 11, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Frank Greene wrote:

Ed Walters wrote:
http://www.archertr ansfers.com/ AR88001.html
That's a fascinating freight car load. And, the car proves that
an
ECW
kit does make a fine model, with all the necessary care and
fiddling to
make it fit together. Congratulations, Bruce.
--
Frank Greene
Frank,

Thanks for the compliment! The car and load were based on a photo
that Richard Hendrickson kindly provided to me. I am told that the
boiler is a marine boiler destined for a Victory Ship and that
typically, they would have used 3 per ship. I would definitely
say
that the car is classic ECW, with mismatched moldings and all the
other problems, but that with a bit of care, it does make into a
unique and nice car. Wire grabs, A-line steps, scale couplers and
air-hoses all help <G>.

I built the flat probably about 6 years ago, but struggled for a
way
to built the load (and keep my sanity) until recently. Then,
Chooch
released their large boiler resin casting. Those of you familiar
with that casting know that it comes complete with cribbing
(*YUCK!)
and is certainly wider than an HO scale flat car. The boiler has
3
sections. Using a band saw, I cut out the middle section and cut
the
cribbing off the boiler. After gluing the ends of the boiler back
together and sanding the circumference smooth, I added a wrapper
of
0.010" styrene, with an appropriate splice plate. I added the tie
down points and the support straps and brackets from scrap
styrene.
I sprayed the plastic with clear gloss to give the decals
something
to stick to, and I believe I used the "large" rivets on Archer's
sheet with 3 sizes (you can now buy whole sheets of one size). As
I
told Jeff, visions of putting long strips of 50 rivets on at a
time
were quickly dashed as around 8-10 rivet strips were really the
maximum that can be handled. Once the rivets were on, I painted
the
circumference aluminum and the ends flat black. The AMERICAN
LOCOMOTIVE CO. SCHENECTADY N.Y. decal was created on my computer
using ink jet decal paper. I made the cribbing out of various
sizes
of scale lumber to match the appearance of the cribbing in the
photo
and likewise the tie-downs were made from brass wire to match the
photo.

Regards
Bruce

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Re: Prototype Rails 2009 Photos - Silver SAL beer car?

Fritz Milhaupt
 

John-

Thanks for posting your Prototype Rails 2009 photos. 'looks like a
whole lot of good modeling on display.

I was interested to see you identify the silver Seaboard boxcar as a
car in beer service, and am curious as to what this assignment
entailed, specifically where these distinctive-looking cars originated
and ran. From the stenciling, obviously Tampa was one end of its run,
but for whom and to where?

I see from the archive that this was brought up when Kadee released
their silver SAL PS-1 in 2003, but we never seemed to come to an
answer. Anyone know?

-Fritz Milhaupt
Web Guy, Operations Road Show
http://www.railsonwheels.com/ors


Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

Roger Robar
 

_____

From: On Behalf Of Ernie Valentine

Subject: [STMFC] Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine



I have played around trying to download the magazine for about two hours on
high speed with no luck. I hope the editor hurries up with the "lite
edition". Hopefully I can download that. I did enjoy the 1960's Kansas
City photos.

Ernie V

All you need is Adobe Reader 9 to download.

Roger Robar
,_._,___


Re: Alco marine boilers via rail - was Bruce Smith's boiler

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

The comments regarding Bruce Smith's Alco built marine boiler flat
car load are much of interest to me. Can someone provide a URL to
find the photo of it refered to? I cannot find it on Archer's site,
nor can I access the STMFC photos section for reasons unknown at
present.

Someone has metnioned that there was one yard on each coast to
which such boilers were shipped. Can that really be correct? Or
perhaps the better question might be how many different types of
marine boiler did Alco construct for the war effort, how many were
transported by rail and to what shipyards did they go to?

It has taken me a while to find what I was looking for but this
morning I have been successful. I have two photos of such loads
coming thorugh Vermont over the Canadian Pacific's Lyndonville
Subdivision, this being former B&M trackage between Newport and St.
Johnsbury, VT. I believe the photos were taken in Barnet, VT. In this
case there were four flat car loads of them. Uncle Warren Fancher,
who took the photos, stated that they were Liberty Ship boilers but
that may or may not have been the case. The information I was given
on these moves over thirty-five years ago is that the boilers were
routed via the D&H - B&M - Rutland - B&M -CPR and MEC. This sounds
like they went to the Rutland at White Creek, NY, were thence carried
to Bellows Falls, VT to the B&M again and thus avoiding Hoosac
Tunnel, before being carried up the Connecticut River lines to St.
Johnsbury, where they were turned over to the Maine Central for
delivery to Todd-Bath Iron Shipbuilding Co. shipyard in So. Portland,
Maine. This was a 381 mile routing due to clearance problems rather
than the direct route of only 283 miles. While I was told that there
were thirty such shipments of three boilers each the two photos I
have clearly show four boilers on four different cars. These
movements began in the summer of 1941. The boilers were stasted to
have been 17 ft. 7 in. high, 12 ft. 6 in. wide and weighed 102,000
lbs. and for "cargo vessels". Each of these boilers was on a drop
center flat car and had four brackets to which cables could be
attached for loading/unloading.

Hope this adds to our collective knowledge of such loads but would
like to learn a lot more about them in New England.

Take care, Don Valentine






--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


On Jan 11, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Frank Greene wrote:

Ed Walters wrote:
http://www.archertransfers.com/AR88001.html
That's a fascinating freight car load. And, the car proves that
an
ECW
kit does make a fine model, with all the necessary care and
fiddling to
make it fit together. Congratulations, Bruce.
--
Frank Greene
Frank,

Thanks for the compliment! The car and load were based on a photo
that Richard Hendrickson kindly provided to me. I am told that the
boiler is a marine boiler destined for a Victory Ship and that
typically, they would have used 3 per ship. I would definitely
say
that the car is classic ECW, with mismatched moldings and all the
other problems, but that with a bit of care, it does make into a
unique and nice car. Wire grabs, A-line steps, scale couplers and
air-hoses all help <G>.

I built the flat probably about 6 years ago, but struggled for a
way
to built the load (and keep my sanity) until recently. Then,
Chooch
released their large boiler resin casting. Those of you familiar
with that casting know that it comes complete with cribbing
(*YUCK!)
and is certainly wider than an HO scale flat car. The boiler has
3
sections. Using a band saw, I cut out the middle section and cut
the
cribbing off the boiler. After gluing the ends of the boiler back
together and sanding the circumference smooth, I added a wrapper
of
0.010" styrene, with an appropriate splice plate. I added the tie
down points and the support straps and brackets from scrap
styrene.
I sprayed the plastic with clear gloss to give the decals
something
to stick to, and I believe I used the "large" rivets on Archer's
sheet with 3 sizes (you can now buy whole sheets of one size). As
I
told Jeff, visions of putting long strips of 50 rivets on at a
time
were quickly dashed as around 8-10 rivet strips were really the
maximum that can be handled. Once the rivets were on, I painted
the
circumference aluminum and the ends flat black. The AMERICAN
LOCOMOTIVE CO. SCHENECTADY N.Y. decal was created on my computer
using ink jet decal paper. I made the cribbing out of various
sizes
of scale lumber to match the appearance of the cribbing in the
photo
and likewise the tie-downs were made from brass wire to match the
photo.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/index.pl/bruce_f._smith2

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RI 140800-140999

Ed Hawkins
 

STMFC,
In July & August 1929 AC&F built 1,000 SS box cars in lot no. 844 numbered RI 140000-140999. All 1,000 of these cars came with Youngstown doors. However, the first 800 cars had top-mounted door rollers and the last 200 cars had bottom-mounted Creco door rollers, and the doors rested on horizontally-mounted steel angle door guides. AC&F took two builder's photos (140230 and 140847), presumably to show the two different door mounting types.

The 1947 and 1962 Rock Island diagrams state that the last 200 cars had Superior doors, which implies the doors were replaced prior to 1947. It seems unusual for a railroad to replace 200 sets of Youngstown doors after only 18 years of service (at the most). I would like to ascertain if the diagrams were incorrectly updated, or if in fact the last 200 cars received new Superior doors. In-service photos of the first 800 cars show the original doors and door hardware were still being used, but I have not been able to locate an in-service photo of a car in series 140800-140999. I have contacted Steve Hile, and Steve has shared everything he knows about these cars.

Does anyone have an in-service photo from RI 140800-140999, and if so, what doors are shown? Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Model Rail Hobbyist - online magazine

Ernie Valentine
 

I have played around trying to download  the magazine for about two hours on high speed with no luck.  I hope the editor hurries up with the "lite edition".  Hopefully I can download that.  I did enjoy the 1960's Kansas City photos.
 
Editor, please remember:
Not all of us have degrees in computer science
Not all of us have the latest super big, super fast computers
I appreciate that it is free, but if I can't access it, what good is it?
 
Ernie V
 
 
 




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