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Re: Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar

Dennis Storzek
 

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 02:33 AM, Paul Woods wrote:
And a general question to the group: Presumably these loads would have required a decent sort of lock on the doors to prevent loss en-route....were they just a run-of-the-mill padlock type of affair or was there some standardisation, and were they applied by the railroad Agent or by the shipper?
Car seals. A padlock can be picked, then snapped shut again after the pilferage is done, leaving the RR liable for the shortage. A car seal needs to be cut, leaving evidence of the deed. Security of shipments relied more on vigilant policing (which is why railroads had police departments) than strong locks. Subterfuge helped also; once sealed that carload of beer didn't look any different than a carload of anvils. Which is one of the reasons that all the gaudy brewery paint schemes disappeared from brewery owned cars early. Any value of advertising was more than offset by the increased pilferage that came with making the cars marked targets.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Bill Welch
 

I have no idea Scott.

Bill Welch


Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"

Scott
 

Tim can you post a few car numbers from the ORER of the 11ft cars please.  I have a Bomber Boxcar in my stash would like to run it 1950ish.

Thanks
Scott McDonald 


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Scott
 

Bill can you sand this primer or is it Vallejo that forms a tough film?

Scott McDonald 


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Bill Welch
 

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 01:42 AM, Aley, Jeff A wrote:

Hi Bill, How many coats of primer is on the model?

Thanks,

-Jeff

 

Jeff: Several thin coats. I was also priming another roof and the Klasing Brake Wheel for the model during the same session. This is an Acrylic so it drys pretty quickly so with thin coats I could get coverage I wanted in one AB session.

I forgot to say that I sprayed with my Badger 155 Anthem AB w/.75mm needle/nozzle combo at 20 PSI. My modeling friend and list member George Toman put me onto the Neutral Yellow primer. he used it before painting with a Box Car Red and said he like the look of the BCR over the yellow. I plan to do this too on my WABASH war emergency build.

Bill Welch


Re: C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Richard,

Please allow me to add to the other suggestions that this car (series 9500-9999) is covered on Plate 37 of FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937. The reprint with additions to the original work was edited Carl W. Shaver, and I believe is still available from Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society. 

Plate 37 includes builder's photos taken from the side, as well as both ends, plus the general arrangement drawing. The end photos are slightly larger than an O-scale model, and show some really useful details.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 7:53 PM Richard Remiarz <rremiarz@...> wrote:
I just started building a Funaro & Camerlengo C&O 1930 automobile boxcar kit.  In looking through my reference materials, I have found almost no information on these cars.  I thought I remembered an article in a publication sometime in the last few years (which means it was probably 5-10 years ago) about these cars and building this kit, but haven't been able to find anything.   Any help getting more information on these cars and this kit would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Rich Remiarz
Vadnais Heights, MN


Re: Photo: Barrels in A Boxcar

Paul Woods <paul@...>
 

Bob, fantastic photos - thanks for sharing.

And a general question to the group: Presumably these loads would have required a decent sort of lock on the doors to prevent loss en-route....were they just a run-of-the-mill padlock type of affair or was there some standardisation, and were they applied by the railroad Agent or by the shipper?

Regards
Paul Woods

Whangarei, NZ


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Aley, Jeff A
 

Hi Bill,

 

               How many coats of primer is on the model?

 

Thanks,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Welch
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 3:54 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Priming w/Yellow

 

Just primed my M-K-T company built War Emergency boxcar w/Badger's Neutral Yellow primer.

Bill Welch


Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"

John Larkin
 

Jim,

Thanks for the info.  I've been trying to figure out where the tracks ran in and it appears to be from the northwest side of the base, just looking at the connecting railroad configuration and how it could have run into or next to (looks like something was there) the buildings.  There is also a very short section of track left in place off the CB&Q line on the southeast side of the base, and what may be (from Google) a connection at the other end to the former MP that also served the buildings on the north.

Our building is the oldest on base, and it includes a 3' thick brick wall inside.  Evidently it had been a stable, a blacksmith shop and, according to an unofficial source, a train depot though I'm not sure where or how the track connection could have been made.  No B-29s there any more though there are a couple of B-52s at the main entrance and a B-17 inside the base on the south side.

Lot of history on that base, I'm just trying to get a handle on the railroad side of it.  I only got stuck with Officer of the Day duty a couple of times, but overseas not there. 

John Larkin



On Monday, March 16, 2020, 12:27:02 PM CDT, james murrie via Groups.Io <bi291@...> wrote:


The B-26 and later B-29 assembly plant was the Martin factory on what is now Offutt AFB(previously Fort Crook) south of Bellevue NE.  The building was later made part of the base and called "Building C" when I was stationed there in the 1970s.  You could still see the floors made out of wooden blocks.  We used to go jogging on the lower floor (below ground level) in the winter.  They had also put in a bowling alley and a lot of other things including a "Sattelite Control Squadron" that officially controlled weather satellites for AF Global Weather Central. On the other hand, we also had a strategic reconnaissance wing.
The big end doors at the end of what had been the assembly line rolled out into the end of the runway.  One of the B-29s that dropped the atomic bomb was built there.  It was very close to the tracks that ran south out of Omaha. I believe the official station name was Fort Crook even in the 1970s.
Even though I was stationed at SAC HQ, I spent several nights in the building when I was tagged for Officer of the Day duty.

Jim Murrie


Re: New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends

golden1014
 

I don't intend for this to be a criticism, just an observation.  I ordered an Intermountain C&O box car with Deco ends about eight months before I moved to Germany.  That was in early 2015.  It's taken five years for those models to come to market!

John Golden
Ramstein-Miesenbach, Germany


Re: New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends

Larry Wolohon
 

I rather doubt that you would hear from the new Caboose as the ownership is all new & all the personal there are all new. Larry Wolohon

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From: Richard Townsend via Groups.Io
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Sent: March 14, 2020 at 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends

I wonder if I will hear from Caboose Hobbies. I put an order in before they closed down on Broadway.


Re: Alcohol

Geodyssey
 

Best substitute for 90% isopropyl is 99% isopropyl alcohol. Why pay for water dilution if you don't need it?

Ask a pharmacist to order, or from Amazon. Etc..

Robert Simpson


ADMIN: RPM updates

Aley, Jeff A
 

Folks,

 

               This list is not a COVID-19 list.  It is not a politics list.  It is a place where we can have a respite from the “real world” around us and focus on our hobby: Steam-Era Freight Cars.

 

               Those who persist in posting off-topic comments do so at their peril.  Note that I am not in the mood to post cute comments about the food in the STMFC jail.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley,

Deputy Moderator, RealSTMFC

 


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Jack Mullen
 

That covered well and looks really nice, Bill.  Sometimes it's difficult to get a sufficiently opaque finish with yellow paints. The yellow primer should really help with that problem. Looking forward to seeing the completed work.

Jack Mullen


Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"

Scott Seders
 

Did these boxcars haul wing assemblies from Martin’s Baltimore plant to Omaha or did they originate somewhere else?

Scott Seders
Salisbury, MD 

On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



The 1950 and 1955 ORER's show a number of 50 foot cars with 11-2 or 11-3 interior heights.
That's clearly extra tall for 1950's box cars!

Tim O'Connor


On 3/15/2020 9:02 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:
The Burlington Bulletin on the extended roof XA-14D cars states that some served out they’re life without conversion to original height. I’m traveling, so I can’t access my source until next week.

Nelson Moyer

On Mar 15, 2020, at 4:31 PM, al_brown03 <abrown@...> wrote:

I know of two sources on these:
Culotta, "Freight Cars Reference Manual", v 1, p 192
Masterson, Wagner, and Hoffman, RP CYC 12, pp 46-87 (see especially pp 78-83)

CB&Q class XA-14D (100 cars, 46650-46749) were built in the company shops in 1937-38. After Pearl Harbor, 60 of this class were rebuilt with 26" roof extensions, to carry wings and other parts for B-26 and B-29 bombers. The modified XA-14Ds were converted back to their original height during 1946. The Masterson article has two photos of CB&Q 46741 with its extended roof, and Culotta has a 1963 photo of the same car at its original height.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Allen Cain
 

Do not know where Bill got his but here is a search link for Amazon. Lots of colors to chose from:


Allen Cain 


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Bill Welch
 

Amazon is one source. . .

Bill Welch


Re: [ResinFreightCarBuilders] C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar

Richard Remiarz
 

Thanks Andy, Bill and Ted for the information. Fortunately I kept all of my old Mainline Modeler issues.  Looks like I need to send an order to Ted.  The decals in the kit didn’t look very sharp.

Sincerely,
Rich Remiarz


On Mar 16, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Andy Cich <ajc5150@...> wrote:

The C&O Historical Society Published a freight car book. Three pages are devoted to the 9500-9999 series cars. There are 5 photos and an equipment diagram. The five photos are a straight on side shot, a straight on A end shot, a straight on B end shot, a 3/4 A end shot, and a 3/4 B end shot.

Andy Cich 


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Todd Sullivan
 

Wow, Bill, that's a pretty smooth looking finish.  Nice model, too!  Where did you get the Badger primer?

Todd Sullivan


Re: C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar

william darnaby
 

There is an article on these cars in the 6/84 Mainline Modeler on page 55 with drawings and photos.

 

Bill Darnaby

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Remiarz
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 6:53 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io; ResinFreightCarBuilders@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] C&O 40' 1930 Automobile Boxcar

 

I just started building a Funaro & Camerlengo C&O 1930 automobile boxcar kit.  In looking through my reference materials, I have found almost no information on these cars.  I thought I remembered an article in a publication sometime in the last few years (which means it was probably 5-10 years ago) about these cars and building this kit, but haven't been able to find anything.   Any help getting more information on these cars and this kit would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Rich Remiarz

Vadnais Heights, MN

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