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Re: AHM roof

Tim O'Connor
 


Clark I think there were some flat panel steel roofs with seam caps like that. CP or CN perhaps?



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Subject: [RealSTMFC] AHM roof

I over paid ($4) for an AHM 40', DS, DD box car thinking I needed it for a upcoming project. That project didn't materialize as I envisioned. What to do with the model? I took it out of the box and gave it a good look-see. The roof looked like something I'd seen before, so I cut it off. Is this roof usable? If so, what box cars had it?

All comments are appreciated...Well, all favorable comments anyway...
CW Propst

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: RPM updates

Eric Hansmann
 

A saw a post on Facebook earlier that the Savannah RPM has cancelled. 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Mar 15, 2020, at 5:49 PM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote:

In case anyone missed the Special Notice posted here, the Toronto RPM has in fact been postponed.

George Irwin


Re: RPM updates

G.J. Irwin
 

In case anyone missed the Special Notice posted here, the Toronto RPM has in fact been postponed.

George Irwin


Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"

al_brown03
 

I know of two sources on these:
Culotta, "Freight Cars Reference Manual", v 1, p 192
Masterson, Wagner, and Hoffman, RP CYC 12, pp 46-87 (see especially pp 78-83)

CB&Q class XA-14D (100 cars, 46650-46749) were built in the company shops in 1937-38. After Pearl Harbor, 60 of this class were rebuilt with 26" roof extensions, to carry wings and other parts for B-26 and B-29 bombers. The modified XA-14Ds were converted back to their original height during 1946. The Masterson article has two photos of CB&Q 46741 with its extended roof, and Culotta has a 1963 photo of the same car at its original height.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

That has to be about the ugliest boxcar I've ever seen. Way cool!

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆


On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 4:40 PM Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
The origins of the model and it builder are in the caption w/the photo.

Bill Welch


Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"

Bill Welch
 

The origins of the model and it builder are in the caption w/the photo.

Bill Welch


Re: Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"

Riverboy
 

Is this a scratchbuilt model, or a resin kit, or something else? It looks great!

Tod C Dwyer

On Sunday, March 15, 2020, 03:30:39 PM EDT, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"

A model photo from the NAPM Model Railroad Club:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/napmltd/41672943110/

Caption: "In 1942 the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy modified some of their 50' automobile boxcars to carry wings of B-26 Marauder bombers to an Army Air Corps assembly plant near Omaha. The CB&Q shops built 26" high side extensions and reattached the old roof to the raised sides. The wings were loaded and unloaded through the hinged doors on the 'A' end of the boxcar.

After the war these cars were used for high cube, lightweight loads such as appliances and furniture. The cars fared poorly in their new assignment — those types of loads weren't as robust as airplane wings — with cargo damage often the result of excess sway. Eventually the boxcars were put into general service alongside normal-height 50' cars."

Does anyone have a prototype photo or link to a prototype photo?

How many cars did the CB&Q modify?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"

Bob Chaparro
 

Model: CB&Q "Bomber Boxcar"

A model photo from the NAPM Model Railroad Club:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/napmltd/41672943110/

Caption: "In 1942 the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy modified some of their 50' automobile boxcars to carry wings of B-26 Marauder bombers to an Army Air Corps assembly plant near Omaha. The CB&Q shops built 26" high side extensions and reattached the old roof to the raised sides. The wings were loaded and unloaded through the hinged doors on the 'A' end of the boxcar.

After the war these cars were used for high cube, lightweight loads such as appliances and furniture. The cars fared poorly in their new assignment — those types of loads weren't as robust as airplane wings — with cargo damage often the result of excess sway. Eventually the boxcars were put into general service alongside normal-height 50' cars."

Does anyone have a prototype photo or link to a prototype photo?

How many cars did the CB&Q modify?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


CDLX 817 tank car

Tim O'Connor
 


I have a Proto (Walthers) insulated Type 21 tank car decorated as CDLX 817.
It is stenciled for wine service add was issued by X2011 West NMRA Convention.

My question is about a small DECAL that is included. It contains two small pieces
of lettering that appear to be a diagram of some kind, or maybe just graffiti.
I'm guessing someone had a photo of the prototype car with the lettering. Or maybe
not.

Anyone know what this lettering is for, and or where it goes on the car?

Tim O'Connor


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


AHM roof

Clark Propst
 

I over paid ($4) for an AHM 40', DS, DD box car thinking I needed it for a upcoming project. That project didn't materialize as I envisioned. What to do with the model? I took it out of the box and gave it a good look-see. The roof looked like something I'd seen before, so I cut it off. Is this roof usable? If so, what box cars had it?

All comments are appreciated...Well, all favorable comments anyway...
CW Propst


Re: New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends

Richard Townsend
 

I wonder if I will hear from Caboose Hobbies. I put an order in before they closed down on Broadway.


Re: New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends

Jon Miller
 

On 3/14/2020 4:40 PM, Curt Fortenberry wrote:
Now maybe the C&O cars I’ve had reserved for years will arrive.  

    I've had two reserved for so long I forgot and almost ordered another.  But my friendly dealer reminded me.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends

Curt Fortenberry
 


Good news that the deco end cars are shipping. Last time I looked at their website they’ve been listed as in production for a while.  Now maybe the C&O cars I’ve had reserved for years will arrive.  

Curt Fortenberry 


Re: Deco end

Edward
 

C&O had a class of 40' steel, Deco end box cars built in 1937. They were numbered 5000 - 5499.
In the mid-1960's "Chessie" era, some went to the B&O, numbered in the 167500-169576 series.
All but seven were off the roster by 1974.
While their time frame runs beyond that of this freight car group,  they were in the last decades of it.
The attached photo is of an O scale brass model of a C&O Deco end car imported by Rich Yoder in 2006.

Ed Bommer 


Deco end

Andy Cich
 

Now that Intermountain has released their model, I have some questions about Deco Ends. We tend to describe dreadnaught ends in technical terms and great detail (4/5, 4/4 IDE, R+3-4, etc.) Was there a proper name for Deco Ends used in advertising and the cyclopedias?? I assume the Deco Ends were manufactured/patented by a competitor of SRE and the ends were ultimately a commercial failure. Who was the manufacturer? Were these ends used on anything other than the ’37 boxcar

 

Andy Cich


Re: Soo Line boxcar

Steve and Barb Hile
 

This item is, apparently, one version of a Universal Brake Booster that also appears on a group of Swift reefers of approximately the same vintage.  See Gene Deimling's blog at
 

https://myp48.wordpress.com/2017/07/16/prototype-swift-wood-reefers/

 

You can see an example of this under SRLX 2768 on Protocraft's (O scale) decal web page at

 

https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=892&Categoryid=21.

 

Rapido did a similar car in an earlier paint scheme, but needs this part and some other upgrades to fully match the prototype.

 

Steve Hile



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 1:17 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Soo Line boxcar

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 08:47 PM, Richard Remiarz wrote:
I don’t know if this part was unique to the later cars that were modeled by the Sunshine kit, or if it was used on all series of Soo sawtooth boxcars.
You mean this: https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/album?id=43499

I've never seen one on any Soo car with a fishbelly UF, nor is it shown on the Haskell & Barker drawings of the early twenties cars (the prototype for that kit) so surmise they were only on the later cars. The only one of the 1926, 28, 29, and 30 built cars I've been able to inspect is the 1929 car at the Illinois Railway Museum, where those pix were taken.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Soo Line boxcar

Elliot Courtney
 

Thank you all for the great info and pictures, this helps me immensely with my build! 


Re: Photo: Salt Lake Garfield & Western Boxcar 100

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photo: Salt Lake Garfield & Western Boxcar 100

Photo from the Freight Car Resource on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/166114828@N08/48645763226/

Caption: "Salt Lake Garfield & Western 100, a double-sheathed wood end steel underframe car with Bettendorf T-section trucks. Built in 1924 for the Salt Lake & Utah Railroad but never delivered.

     The caption means that the car was never delivered to the SL&U, and eventually acquired by the SLG&W.

Tony Thompson




NATIONAL SCALE CAR - New parts and Full Restock

Ryan Mendell
 

Hello Steam Era Freight Car modellers.

Just a quick announcement that we have completely restocked our line of Mini Kits and added new detail parts to our line.

Full details on the website including updates and announcements of new releases.

www.nationalscalecar.com

Ryan Mendell
National Scale Car


Re: C&O 8000-9499 boxcar end diagram

Dennis Storzek
 

Thanks Ben. Since its not the car I was thinking of, I have nothing that will help you. However, I encourage you to order the N&W drawing David has identified. This is one level deeper than the typical General Arrangement drawing, and includes enough sectional views that a 3D model can be constructed entirely from the information on that drawing, provided you can read the dimensions. The N&WHS  are a wonderful resource; fast and reasonably inexpensive for the value received.

Dennis Storzek

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