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Prototype info on labels, was the hijacked thread RE: [RealSTMFC] Consumer Warning Labels
Schuyler Larrabee
For what a lot of us want to know . . . it could be much simpler for the manufacturer.
“Verified prototype car and paint scheme, 1948 photo”
Still up to the buyer to establish the earliest date, unless the photo when located shows and earlier BLT date, but at least there’s one data point shown.
Foobies wouldn’t be labeled this way.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff
Yeah, I can see how it would be a royal pain to try and label stuff up... I can almost see the checkboxes: Built date: Repaint Date: (re)Weigh date: ACI: Y/N U-1: Y/N COTS: Y/N Consp. Stripe: Y/N - and that's just for a car built in or after the 60s.
On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 1:07 PM Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:
-- Jeff Shultz
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Re: Consumer Warning Labels
For our era you only really need build date and paint date. Same as what Branchline provided.
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But I understand that we’re in the minority. At an open house yesterday I saw an UP diesel pulling a 5 car well stack, 3 Athearn triple dome tank cars, 2 40 ft Athearn steam cars boxcars and a center beam flat. I cringed but the owner was happy. Brian J. Carlson
On Mar 9, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Jeff <jeffshultz@...> wrote:
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Re: Consumer Warning Labels
Jeff
Yeah, I can see how it would be a royal pain to try and label stuff up... I can almost see the checkboxes: Built date: Repaint Date: (re)Weigh date: ACI: Y/N U-1: Y/N COTS: Y/N Consp. Stripe: Y/N - and that's just for a car built in or after the 60s.
On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 1:07 PM Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:
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Jeff Shultz http://www.shultzinfosystems.com A railfan approaches a grade crossing hoping that there will be a train.
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Re: MEK...was Consumer Warning Labels
Jack Burgess
Our hardware store had a MEK substitute but I read that it didn’t work on styrene like MEK…
Jack Burgess
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mont Switzer
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 5:21 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Consumer Warning Labels
Tom and all,
I have had a similar experience with MEK. My local hardware store (now gone) was nice enough to special order MEK for me, but I had to take a full case consisting of four 1 gallon cans. I’m still on the first can which lives in my garage.
I have a standing offer with all local friends. FREE MEK. Bring your own tight seal jar.
Last time I was through the big box store I saw that they now have MEK in 1 quart containers. That was not the case 15-20 years ago.
Mont
Montford L. Switzer President Switzer Tank Lines, Inc. Fall Creek Leasing, LLC. (765) 836-2914
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Madden via Groups.Io
When my employer closed down my prototype printed circuit lab in 1992 I liberated a 3/4 full gallon jug of MEK that was slated for disposal. I've only used it occasionally since I began resin casting, but it's still good 28 years later with minimal evaporation loss. It's in a glass jug with a lined plastic screw cap in our unheated garage.
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Re: B&LE 82000 series box cars
I think you mean a 100,000 lb. capacity car at 50 tons for a double sheathed box car of the early 1940's, not a car having a 100 ton (200,000 lbs.) capacity.
Ed Bommer
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Tank Car CLCX 206 1926 +/-
Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...>
Tank Car CLCX 206 circa 1926, possibly Grand Forks, ND
-Hudson
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Re: Consumer Warning Labels
Mont Switzer
Tom and all,
I have had a similar experience with MEK. My local hardware store (now gone) was nice enough to special order MEK for me, but I had to take a full case consisting of four 1 gallon cans. I’m still on the first can which lives in my garage.
I have a standing offer with all local friends. FREE MEK. Bring your own tight seal jar.
Last time I was through the big box store I saw that they now have MEK in 1 quart containers. That was not the case 15-20 years ago.
Mont
Montford L. Switzer President Switzer Tank Lines, Inc. Fall Creek Leasing, LLC. (765) 836-2914
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tom Madden via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 5:53 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Consumer Warning Labels
When my employer closed down my prototype printed circuit lab in 1992 I liberated a 3/4 full gallon jug of MEK that was slated for disposal. I've only used it occasionally since I began resin casting, but it's still good 28 years later
with minimal evaporation loss. It's in a glass jug with a lined plastic screw cap in our unheated garage.
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Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders], [Model Railroad], [Model Railway], [Plastic Model Railroad Freight Car Builders] Great Northern Flat Car 69958
Well done Lester, finished product is very nice
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Fenton
On Mar 8, 2020, at 8:41 PM, James E Kubanick <jekuban@...> wrote:
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Re: Consumer Warning Labels
MEK and several other chemicals thought to be banned in California are still available, but not in the smaller consumer-size containers. The approach is that industrial and commercial users are more observant of fume control and proper disposal than household users.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Consumer Warning Labels
Rod Miller
On 3/7/20 2:03 PM, Hudson Leighton wrote:
If I ever go into the model train business, my labels are going to say:Now if California could come up with a foolproof (there's the rub) way to receive money from those who make fun of it, all CA taxes could be done away with. 8-) -- Rod Miller Handcraftsman === Custom 2-rail O Scale Models: Drives, Repairs, Steam Loco Building, More http://www.rodmiller.com
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Re: [Plastic Freight Car Builders], [Model Railroad], [Model Railway], [Plastic Model Railroad Freight Car Builders] Great Northern Flat Car 69958
Lester, Another very nice build. I do enjoy reading your blogs as they are full of very usable techniques that are useful in my own projects. Jim Kubanick Morgantown WV
On Saturday, March 7, 2020, 10:25:27 PM EST, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:
Great job, Lester. For those with a copy of November-December, 1978 Northwestern Prototype Modeler, pages 12 and 12 feature an article by our own Steffan Ehnbom on kit bashing this class flatcar by using an AHM flatcar.
Gary Laakso
From: main@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io <main@PlasticFreightCarBuiilders.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
I have completed the build of Great Northern Flat Car 69958, class FM. If you are interested in the build of this car including addition of details not in the kit, photos and writeup of the build process including paint and weathering are now available on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company. If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:
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Re: Consumer Warning Labels
Nelson Moyer
I guess all cans aren’t created equal. The cap on my Sunnyside MEK let the MEK out very slowly, despite being tight. I haven’t had that problem with acetone or lacquer thinner.
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I’ll decant the next can into a glass chemical bottle with a neoprene lined plastic cap. Nelson Moyer
On Mar 8, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Jack Burgess <jack@yosemitevalleyrr.com> wrote:
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Siems Stembel - was Standard Steel Drawing List
Bob Webber
Hi, Dennis - given the day, I decided to go to the Library,
bring a bunch of "used" tubes back to the reefer, and along
with some specific tubes, I brought back 1 Siems tube. A Soo
Box, & Gon, NP flat, MILW gon, a GN stock and some other
"stuff".
Was there something specific you might be interested in (no, I don't have specifics yet, we'll scan the tube on Wednesday, and it will be added to the SSC folder)? At 01:33 PM 1/24/2020, Dennis Storzek wrote: I only see four drawings listed for the Soo Line, searching both by common name and corporate initials. This isn't surprising, as the Soo bought very little from SSC, but begs the question, is Siems Stembel production included in the SSC list? Bob Webber
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Re: Consumer Warning Labels
Tom Madden
When my employer closed down my prototype printed circuit lab in 1992 I liberated a 3/4 full gallon jug of MEK that was slated for disposal. I've only used it occasionally since I began resin casting, but it's still good 28 years later with minimal evaporation loss. It's in a glass jug with a lined plastic screw cap in our unheated garage.
Tom Madden
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Re: Consumer Warning Labels
Jack Burgess
I keep the MEK in the original metal cans and decanter a small amount into a
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plastic bottle (it has been proven to not evaporate from it) and then use it to put a 1/8" of so in my plastic dispenser (which does evaporate over time). Jack Burgess
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nelson Moyer Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 9:26 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Consumer Warning Labels Hope you protected your MEK from evaporation. I bought a quart and decanted an ounce into a repurposed paint bottle. A couple of year later when I needed to refill the bottle, I found the can half full. The cap was tight, but I still had evaporative loss. Nelson Moyer On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Jack Burgess <jack@yosemitevalleyrr.com>wrote: using if when other products were available. I've heard that it is stillavailable in places that sell automobile paint.
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Re: New England Rail Service #1000 1/2 Door Add-On Kit.
Ray Breyer
Don's half doors are a great, cost effective way to create "fleet grade" (or better) models of tens of thousands of single and double sheathe auto boxcars, which ran through the entire timeframe for this list. They may occasionally need work for specific prototypes, but that's still faster and easier than scratching your own doors. Ray Breyer Elgin, IL
On Sunday, March 8, 2020, 11:48:51 AM CDT, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:
Hi, Don. I purchased 5 of the conversion kits several years ago and finally got around to doing my Accurail cars. They look pretty good to me and provide something different. My cars would never win any contests but sure look nice next to other ones. Thanks for making the kits available to us. Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Sunday, March 8, 2020, 07:54:32 AM CDT, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:
Hi folks, I gather that someone must have presented an article in one of the modeling mags on converting some suppliers single door boxcar into a 1 1/2 door car judging from the number of requests for our kit to do this over the last several months. We ran out of the parts late last fall and then received a fill order from our molder in which all parts did not fill and he did not notice it. Last week we received a new fill order in which all parts are properly filled. Thus we are again taking orders for that item and generally fill and ship such orders within 48 hours. Our minimum order has been reduced to $24 to make it easier to order small numbers of such parts plus $4.00 for shipping and handling. The #1000 1/2 Door Add-On kits are $5.95 each and are designed to be easily used with the Accu-Rail Single Sheathed USRA style boxcars. Such cars were used in large numbers by the CNR, GTW and other roads. The original article on which these kits are based was prepared by our late associate, Richard Hendrickson and appears in the April 1993 issue of Rail Model Journal. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: New England Rail Service #1000 1/2 Door Add-On Kit.
Matt Smith
Don,
Who are you and how do we get your product? Do you distribute through another website? I googled your company name and the part number but nothing comes up but a few random parts on hobby sites and everything says back ordered? Just wondering how people can find out about your products and how to purchase them. Thanks -- Matt Smith Bloomington, IL
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B&LE 82000 series box cars
Clark Propst
Anyone have or know of any photos of a B&LE 82000 series box car? Supposed to be a double sheathed 100K ton car off their roster in late 1940 early 1941. 25 became M&StL 50300 series. A photo of one of those would be even better ; ))
Thanks much for any help! CW Propst
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Re: liquid storage (was Consumer Warning Labels)
I have found that Tamiya jars are absolutely air tight. I even transferred contact and canopy cement to the jars and they remain perfectly fresh.
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From: npmoyer@hotmail.com To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Sent: 2020-03-08 12:26:17 PM Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Consumer Warning Labels Hope you protected your MEK from evaporation. I bought a quart and decanted an ounce into a repurposed paint bottle. A couple of year later when I needed to refill the bottle, I found the can half full. The cap was tight, but I still had evaporative loss. Nelson Moyer On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:19 AM, Jack Burgess <jack@yosemitevalleyrr.com> wrote: -- *Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: New England Rail Service #1000 1/2 Door Add-On Kit.
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Hi, Don. I purchased 5 of the conversion kits several years ago and finally got around to doing my Accurail cars. They look pretty good to me and provide something different. My cars would never win any contests but sure look nice next to other ones. Thanks for making the kits available to us. Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Sunday, March 8, 2020, 07:54:32 AM CDT, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:
Hi folks, I gather that someone must have presented an article in one of the modeling mags on converting some suppliers single door boxcar into a 1 1/2 door car judging from the number of requests for our kit to do this over the last several months. We ran out of the parts late last fall and then received a fill order from our molder in which all parts did not fill and he did not notice it. Last week we received a new fill order in which all parts are properly filled. Thus we are again taking orders for that item and generally fill and ship such orders within 48 hours. Our minimum order has been reduced to $24 to make it easier to order small numbers of such parts plus $4.00 for shipping and handling. The #1000 1/2 Door Add-On kits are $5.95 each and are designed to be easily used with the Accu-Rail Single Sheathed USRA style boxcars. Such cars were used in large numbers by the CNR, GTW and other roads. The original article on which these kits are based was prepared by our late associate, Richard Hendrickson and appears in the April 1993 issue of Rail Model Journal. Cordially, Don Valentine _._,_._,_
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