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Re: Large "SOO LINE" lettering: What Date Please

Tim O'Connor
 

I never noticed that slight change in the S. Yet another lettering twist, yikes!





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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Large "SOO LINE" lettering: What Date Please

The large square 'boxcar block' lettering dates to the summer of 1951. This original version had the center bar of the S sloping downward at a slight angle, maybe five or seven degrees. This was modified in 1956 or '57 to have the center bar of the S truly horizontal. 

The round Venus Bold lettering dates to 1962, past our era.

Dennis Storzek


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: "Dedicated" freight car service

Dave Parker
 

Don, I don't disagree about the ice service.  But, time stopped for me in 1935, so I'm afraid I don't keep very careful track of things that occurred later.  Actually, some days I can't keep track of  what happened leading up to 1934, when it really matters to me!

With regards.
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Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: "Dedicated" freight car service

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

    Perhaps not as far into your future as you think Dave. I believe the first use of the B&M's MDT built reefers for 
ice cars began shortly after WW II ended if not a bit before. I agree with you on the hopper use in sort of dedicated 
service. Once they hoppers were repainted and given the Minuteman Herald after the war that stenciling disappeared.

My best, Don Valentine


Re: Large "SOO LINE" lettering: What Date Please

Bill Welch
 

Thank you so much Joe, Dennis and Chris!

Bill Welch


Re: Large "SOO LINE" lettering: What Date Please

bigfourroad
 

Bill
Here courtesy of the Soo Line HTS is a definite answer to your question. 
http://www.sooline.org/Publications/Drawings/freight_car_box_51-59.shtml
Glad you asked this will probably improve my modeling as well.
Chris Rooney


Re: Large "SOO LINE" lettering: What Date Please

Dennis Storzek
 

The large square 'boxcar block' lettering dates to the summer of 1951. This original version had the center bar of the S sloping downward at a slight angle, maybe five or seven degrees. This was modified in 1956 or '57 to have the center bar of the S truly horizontal. 

The round Venus Bold lettering dates to 1962, past our era.

Dennis Storzek


Re: "Dedicated" freight car service

np328
 

  My earlier post needs to be amended. The cars, the 6000 series were based on an SP design, not Santa Fe. 

Also, could the powers that be here put out a reminder of the time frame this list covers? 
If I wanted to read of affairs post 1960, I would join the bbfcl.io 
(I would like to think that I am not the only one on this list that holds that POV)                                                              thanks,                    Jim Dick - Roseville, MN 


Re: Large "SOO LINE" lettering: What Date Please

Joseph
 

1951 IIRC
Joe 

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:20 PM Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
One of the first IMWX 1937 AAR kits I built year ago was a SOO LINE car using Champ decals. I probably used a magazine photo for inspiration and documentation but I am wondering now what year the RR initiated that paint scheme. I am sure someone here knows the answer. Thank you.

Bill Welch


Large "SOO LINE" lettering: What Date Please

Bill Welch
 

One of the first IMWX 1937 AAR kits I built year ago was a SOO LINE car using Champ decals. I probably used a magazine photo for inspiration and documentation but I am wondering now what year the RR initiated that paint scheme. I am sure someone here knows the answer. Thank you.

Bill Welch


Re: Westerfields

Tony Thompson
 

Dennis Storzek wrote:

Last I knew, Al was in CROSSVILLE, Tenn, which is a bit farther east and south.

    The Westerfields retired to Tucson, Arizona, a few years ago.


Tony Thompson




Re: Westerfields

Dave Pfeiffer
 

Crossville.  Ok.  Got it wrong.  Now Arizona.  Thanks.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 1:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Westerfields

 

Al & Patricia moved to Arizona a couple years ago. 

 

My home is 20-30 miles from the tornado path. 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


On Mar 5, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Dave Pfeiffer via Groups.Io <dave.pfeiffer@...> wrote:

Off topic, but…

 

I saw a lot of tornado devastation in Cookeville, Tn this morning on the news.  If I remember correctly, Cookeville is where the Westerfields live.  Has anyone heard anything?  Thanks.

 

Dave Pfeiffer

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Re: Westerfields

Dave Pfeiffer
 

I’m talking about Al and his wife.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mansell Peter Hambly
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 1:25 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Westerfields

 

Andrew Dahm bought Westerfield a few years ago now and has been relocated to Gardnerville, Nevada.

 

Mansell Peter Hambly

COQUITLAM, B.C.

 

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From: Dave Pfeiffer via Groups.Io
Sent: March 5, 2020 10:20 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Westerfields

 

Off topic, but…

 

I saw a lot of tornado devastation in Cookeville, Tn this morning on the news.  If I remember correctly, Cookeville is where the Westerfields live.  Has anyone heard anything?  Thanks.

 

Dave Pfeiffer

_._,_

 


Re: Westerfields

Eric Hansmann
 

Al & Patricia moved to Arizona a couple years ago. 

My home is 20-30 miles from the tornado path. 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Mar 5, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Dave Pfeiffer via Groups.Io <dave.pfeiffer@...> wrote:

Off topic, but…

 

I saw a lot of tornado devastation in Cookeville, Tn this morning on the news.  If I remember correctly, Cookeville is where the Westerfields live.  Has anyone heard anything?  Thanks.

 

Dave Pfeiffer

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Re: Westerfields

Brian Carlson
 

Not what he meant. 

Al retired to Tucson so he’s not In Tennessee these days. He was posting on FB today, so all is well.  

Brian J. Carlson 

On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Mansell Peter Hambly <mphcd@...> wrote:



Andrew Dahm bought Westerfield a few years ago now and has been relocated to Gardnerville, Nevada.

 

Mansell Peter Hambly

COQUITLAM, B.C.

 

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From: Dave Pfeiffer via Groups.Io
Sent: March 5, 2020 10:20 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Westerfields

 

Off topic, but…

 

I saw a lot of tornado devastation in Cookeville, Tn this morning on the news.  If I remember correctly, Cookeville is where the Westerfields live.  Has anyone heard anything?  Thanks.

 

Dave Pfeiffer

_._,_

 

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Re: Westerfields

Dennis Storzek
 

Last I knew, Al was in CROSSVILLE, Tenn, which is a bit farther east and south.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Westerfields

Mansell Peter Hambly
 

Andrew Dahm bought Westerfield a few years ago now and has been relocated to Gardnerville, Nevada.

 

Mansell Peter Hambly

COQUITLAM, B.C.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dave Pfeiffer via Groups.Io
Sent: March 5, 2020 10:20 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Westerfields

 

Off topic, but…

 

I saw a lot of tornado devastation in Cookeville, Tn this morning on the news.  If I remember correctly, Cookeville is where the Westerfields live.  Has anyone heard anything?  Thanks.

 

Dave Pfeiffer

_._,_

 


Westerfields

Dave Pfeiffer
 

Off topic, but…

 

I saw a lot of tornado devastation in Cookeville, Tn this morning on the news.  If I remember correctly, Cookeville is where the Westerfields live.  Has anyone heard anything?  Thanks.

 

Dave Pfeiffer

_._,_


Re: "Dedicated" freight car service

Dave Parker
 

Elden:

On the B&M, at least "back in the day", the only examples I know of are (i) the 200 MDT-built reefers of 1923 that carried "BANANA SERVICE ONLY" stencils, and (ii) the 1929-30 ARA quad hoppers that said "FOR EXCLUSIVE USE ON HOME ROADS".  I'm not sure if the latter qualifies as the kind of "dedicated service" that you are curious about.  Its origin, I presume, was the age and condition of the B&M's other coal cars, and the need to move a lot of water-borne bituminous from Boston to the many re-coaling facilities scattered around northern New England.

I don't think either stencil persisted for very long, certainly not much after the war.  I think the some of the reefers might have ended up in dedicated ice service, but that's too far into the future for me.

--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: "Dedicated" freight car service

Todd Sullivan
 

My experience clerking at the NPTCo in Portland in 1961-62 with NP and GN covered hoppers was that a small group was dedicated to bulk feed service from the large Albers mill across from Union Station.  There was nothing in the car lists or documentation I typically saw, but the same cars kept showing up for another outbound load.  These covered hoppers were build within the time-frame of this list.  Boxcars in bulk feed service (as opposed to bagged feed service) were also dedicated, and were so designated in track and industry switch lists with "FEED".  Ditto for hide cars which were marked "HIDES" on their switch list entries.  If you ever walked by either kind of car in a yard, you would know why unless you had a bad head cold. :-)

Todd Sullivan


Re: coupler distance over car end

vapeurchapelon
 

Thanks again Dennis,
 
at weekend I will go through these postings.
 
Johannes
modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 04. März 2020 um 14:56 Uhr
Von: "Dennis Storzek" <destorzek@...>
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Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] coupler distance over car end
Just to finish this up, I'm going to post a link to the results of a search and see if it works:

Distance between coupled cars

Not exactly the same question but related there are some good comparisons made by Doc Denny back in 2005.

Dennis Storzek

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