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Re: SP&S Large Reporting Marks—Date of Introduction

Tim O'Connor
 


The Intermountain 10-0 IH 12 panel box car is correct for the SP&S 40 foot car (built 1949)


On 2/29/2020 1:13 PM, Don DeLay via Groups.Io wrote:
The large lettering with periods after the initials went both diagonal and straight line. The smaller lettering also made it onto some of the 50' cars too (SP&S 14241 50' DD boxcar in June 1967 Jim Parker photo).

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: SP&S Large Reporting Marks—Date of Introduction

Tim O'Connor
 


The 14000 to 14499 were built in 1957 at St Cloud and did not have the
billboard letters originally. In some cases the name to the right of the
door was repainted with the large letters and the rest of the lettering
include the oval herald was the same. But most of them seemed to keep the
original lettering up to BN.

BRANCHLINE offered this (accurate) HO scale model as kit #1106

Tim O'




On 2/29/2020 1:13 PM, Don DeLay via Groups.Io wrote:
The large lettering with periods after the initials went both diagonal and straight line. The smaller lettering also made it onto some of the 50' cars too (SP&S 14241 50' DD boxcar in June 1967 Jim Parker photo).

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Grab Irons Extensions

Charlie Vlk
 

Sorry if I missed the reply to Bob’s queston…the Plug Door in the fully open position would interfere with the normal inboard mounting location of the grab irons…so they overlap the ends to clear.

Charlie Vlk

 

There must be a good reason for this...so what is the reason?

 


Re: SP&S Large Reporting Marks—Date of Introduction

Don DeLay
 

The large lettering with periods after the initials went both diagonal and straight line. The smaller lettering also made it onto some of the 50' cars too (SP&S 14241 50' DD boxcar in June 1967 Jim Parker photo).


Re: Red Caboose kits

Paul Doggett
 

Pierre

Email sent

Paul Doggett

On 29 Feb 2020, at 16:20, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@elgincarshops.com> wrote:

Paul,
I maybe able to help you out
Email me offlist pls
pierre.oliver@elgincarshops.com

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com

On 2/29/20 8:36 a.m., Paul Doggett via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi

I am looking for two Red Caboose/Intermountain undecorated 1937 AAR single door boxcar kits it doesn’t matter what ends they have if you can help me please contact off this page thank you.

Paul Doggett. England



Re: Red Caboose kits

Pierre Oliver
 

Paul,
I maybe able to help you out
Email me offlist pls
pierre.oliver@elgincarshops.com

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com

On 2/29/20 8:36 a.m., Paul Doggett via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi

I am looking for two Red Caboose/Intermountain undecorated 1937 AAR single door boxcar kits it doesn’t matter what ends they have if you can help me please contact off this page thank you.

Paul Doggett. England


ORER Missing Page Request

Allen Cain
 

I am in need of pages 699 and 700 from the October 1955 Official Railway Equipment Register.  This page is torn out of my copy and I would really appreciate a clear PDF scan to replace it.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me.

Allen Cain


Re: Yankee Clipper Kit List

Marty McGuirk
 

Here’s a photo of one of my old Steam Shack kits - a CV auto end car - GTW had identical cars.




On Feb 29, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Eric Mumper <eric.mumper@...> wrote:

Add:

9105    National Plate Glass Company 30' Silica Sand covered hopper.

Eric Mumper


Re: Yankee Clipper Kit List

Eric Mumper
 

Add:

9105    National Plate Glass Company 30' Silica Sand covered hopper.

Eric Mumper


Re: NP Mystery Car

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello Hudson,
 
very interesting. But how did it work? Of course I can imagine a knives blade doesn't like sand, but if you take a sharp stone (and I guess these weren't rare even then... :-)) the sand wouldn't be any obstacle?
 
Many greetings
 
Johannes
modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
 
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Februar 2020 um 02:51 Uhr
Von: "Hudson Leighton" <hudsonl@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] NP Mystery Car
The NP included sand in it's depot paint formulas to stop the "little darlings" from carving their initials into the wood. Graffiti isn't new, the form just changes.

-Hudson


Red Caboose kits

Paul Doggett
 

Hi

I am looking for two Red Caboose/Intermountain undecorated 1937 AAR single door boxcar kits it doesn’t matter what ends they have if you can help me please contact off this page thank you.

Paul Doggett. England


Re: West Shore Line Kits (was: Yankee Clipper Kit List)

Rossiter, Mark W <Mark.Rossiter@...>
 

In my stash of unbuilt kits, I have West Shore Line kit #9103 - New York Central MOW Boom Car.  I seem to recall that they offered a B&O Wagontop covered hopper as well, although I can’t find that kit at the moment.  I also have a half-dozen or so resin kits that came out under the NEB&W ‘Green Dot’ label, presumably done under commission with F&C.  These include several Rutland prototypes as well as an Illinois Central SS box car, several different ‘PS-O’ boxcars and a Reading war emergency hopper.    

 

Mark Rossiter

 

 


Re: West Shore Line

Barry Bennett
 

In my stash I have WSL 9709, a kit for a REA express reefer converted from a troop sleeper.

Barry Bennett
North Hykeham, UK.

On Sat, 29 Feb 2020 at 01:40, Hugh Guillaume via Groups.Io <mguill1224=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
The West Shore Line also offered a kit for a New York Central standard wood caboose.  Central Hobbies, now defunct, of Syracuse NY produced the WSL kits.


Re: NP Mystery Car

Tony Thompson
 

There are lots of Roman graffiti on the walls at Pompeii, and writers in Ancient Greece complained about the same thing.
Tony Thompson 


On Feb 28, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...> wrote:

The NP included sand in it's depot paint formulas to stop the "little darlings" from carving their initials into the wood. Graffiti isn't new, the form just changes.

-Hudson


Re: NP Mystery Car

Hudson Leighton <hudsonl@...>
 

The NP included sand in it's depot paint formulas to stop the "little darlings" from carving their initials into the wood. Graffiti isn't new, the form just changes.

-Hudson


Re: NP Mystery Car

Matt Smith
 

Tony,

Yes it's true! Every generation thinks the next generation is a bunch of (insert adjective). However, with age comes memory loss of ones own childhood! :-)

Point being that online generational diatribes quickly degenerate into political/name calling feuds that are nothing about freight cars.

Back to the regularly scheduled programing!

--
Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL


Re: West Shore Line

 

The West Shore Line also offered a kit for a New York Central standard wood caboose.  Central Hobbies, now defunct, of Syracuse NY produced the WSL kits.


Re: Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

Peter Ness
 

Eric,

Thank you very much for your effort to compile and share this information; especially as my early years data is very scant.

 

Peter Ness

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Lombard
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:25 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Freight Cars The Departure Yard At Boston Freight Terminal

 

Hello, Folks...

Attached is a spreadsheet in which the 25,000 New Haven wood-sheathed, steel underframe cars built 1902-1912 are documented. They were all retired from service by 10-1950. There is a lot here to keep your eyeballs busy and which also corrects some misconceptions about renumbering and construction (like the history of the SS cars). The spreadsheet was constructed in service to my work on a database of all the box cars built 1-1910 through 12-1944. 

 

Eric, 

Homewood, IL

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:35 AM Randy Hammill <nhrr@...> wrote:

I certainly don't question the late date.

Those are definitely NH single sheathed box cars, I'm not sure any other road had a single sheathed box car with a Howe truss and that reverse diagonal in the end panels. They were rebuilt from double sheathed cars in the late '20s (although New Haven records list them as new), and they were in non-revenue service by this time, thus not listed in the ORER.

 


Based on NH documents, these are the single sheathed cars I can confirm still in work service through at least April 1962:

W-1209, 1211, and 1232 (assigned Cedar Hill)
W-1233, 1535, 1536 (assigned Boston)
W-1547 (assigned East Walpole, sold 6/14/60)

There might be a few others, but the majority of the cars appear to have been condemned in the 1956-9 period, after about a decade in work service. 

Randy
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Randy Hammill
Prototype Junction
http://prototypejunction.com

Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954
http://newbritainstation.com


Re: CMO 20040 Express Box

Mark
 

Dennis and all,  the boxcar under-frame was modified in that the last cross members on each end were moved toward the center of the car to allow clearance for the 33" wheels on the 7'-0" wheelbase trucks that were salvaged from C&NW wooden milk cars. The trucks formerly offered by the C&NW HS are correct in both respects. The cars also had Viking roofs and LN brakes. Hope this helps.

Mark Feddersen

Denver, Iowa


On 2/27/2020 1:13 PM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 10:32 AM, BRIAN PAUL EHNI wrote:
WB looks too long as well. 
Yeah, the boxcar underframe isn't modified, so still has the 5'-6" kingpin to striker dimension. When you look at the car, the wheel has more or less the same relationship to the car end as the old PRR X29s with their 5'-0" kingpin to striker, which would indicate the passenger truck wheelbase can't be longer than 6'-6". The Tichy trucks claim 6'-0", which may be a bit short. I wonder if these cars had 36" wheels?

In the photo the trucks appear to have separate bolt on pedestals, so the Tichy truck is correct for that feature, but even in the enhanced photo I can't really see the shape of the top of the frame.

Dennis Storzek


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] West Shore Line Kits (was: Yankee Clipper Kit List)

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Tim!  You guys are the best!

 

Drew, you are correct, and the X31A with roof hatches was for coal tar chips.  I did the research!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Drew M. via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 1:32 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] West Shore Line Kits (was: Yankee Clipper Kit List)

 

In my collection of WSL kits I have a D&H 50' double door boxcar and PRR Single and double door 40' boxcars. One of the PRR 40' single door kits includes hatches for flour loading.

Drew Marshall

Philly, PA

Modeling the pre-Depression years.

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On Feb 28, 2020, at 13:25, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Elden this is all I have for West Shore kits -

9001    Reading GHc/GHd composite fishbelly gondola
9002    NYC 1946 Despatch shops 70t 2bay covered hopper
9104    NYC/MC 1936 rebuilt USRA gondola
9202    EL Dunmore shops 70t 4bay covered hopper
9251    N&W round roof 40' SD boxcar
9287    LV wrong way boxcar Zenith roof corr door plate ends
9288    LV wrong way boxcar Viking roof corr door plate ends
9325    CNJ/CRP GHc/GHd composite fishbelly gondola
9326    Reading GHc/GHd composite fishbelly gondola (revised?)
9501A   B&O N-34 covered hopper

It was the fallout over the 1932 ARA box cars that caused Martin to drop Funaro
as a caster (and master builder) - Frank Hodina's first models for Martin then began
to appear, and they were of a higher order of quality. Martin's own early castings (I
think the Mather stock cars may have been the first) were not gray urethane castings.

Tim O'Connor


On 2/28/2020 10:08 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:

Guys;

 

I built his PRR GSH gon as one of my first resin builds.  The resin parts, details, decals and the instructions were good enough that it still compares well with my “modern” resin kit builds.

 

Also, one of my first 3 “accurate” PRR freight cars.

 

Expanding on the subject, does anyone know of a list of the West Shore Line’s offerings?  They were of that same era, and also manufactured by F&C.

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Welch
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 5:14 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Yankee Clipper Kit List

 

[Edited Message Follows]

Thank you Tim. I was surprised to see he had done a couple of gondolas. The boxcars on the list is like seeing an old friend after several years. I built the CP mini-box, the B&M and BAR Pratt truss cars and the 1932 ARA BAR, Norfolk Southern, CGW and an extra CGW kit and Walther's decals to do the NdeM version. Bill Dulmaine did an excellent job with his instruction, prototype history and decals. Also built the PM and C&O 1930 series kits and still have the NKP 1932 kit to build.

For NC&StL, Clinchfield, CofG 1932 cars I built the Sunshine versions. I still a Sunshine 1932 CP kit to build.

Bill Welch


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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