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Re: former VGN cars?

bongiovanni12001
 

Judging by the appearance of those cars and the date of the picture, they could very well be Virginian “battleship gons” that were sold by the railroad and used as storage bins or scrapped.  The railroad was decreasing the number of those cars in active service throughout the 1950s, and only a comparative few were left at the time of the merger with N&W. I believe the N&W got rid of the ones left within about 18 months.  

C&IM had some similar looking cars, but they were 70 ton cars on 4 wheel trucks, IIRC.

Frank Bongiovanni


Photo: Pullman Company Boxcar PLM X2023

Bob Chaparro
 
Edited

Photo: Pullman Company Boxcar PLM X2023

A 1940 builder's photo from the Illinois Digital Archives:

http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/pshs/id/19536/rec/72
There are additional photos referenced to the right of the photo box.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: WP Boxcar 20807

Bob Chaparro
 
Edited

Photos: WP Boxcar 20807

1951 builder's photos from the Illinois Digital Archives:

http://www.idaillinois.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/pshs/id/21885/rec/170

There is an additional photo referenced to the right of the photo box.

Silver car with "Rides Like A Feather" logo.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: former VGN cars?

 

Didn’t C&IM have some battleship gons?

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Apr 23, 2020, at 6:09 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:


Hi List Members,
 
Are the six axle gons former VGN cars? If so, they are far from home.
 
 
More information can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


early CBQ cars

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Re: Weathering powder binder

Richard Townsend
 

Do you have any idea what Bragdon's adhesive might be?

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...>
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Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Weathering powder binder

My understanding is that Bragdon’s has an adhesive mixed in which is activated by pressure. Rubbing the powder generates the required pressure.
 
To my knowledge no other weathering powders have any kind of binder or adhesive.
 
Doug  Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org
 
 
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:06 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Weathering powder binder
 
Can anyone tell me what the binder is in weathering powders? What is the substance that makes the powders stick when rubbed? Onto a steam era freight car.
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 


Weight Of An Industrial Boiler?

Bob Chaparro
 

Weight Of An Industrial Boiler?

I have an HO scale Birchfield industrial fire tube boiler to use as a flat car or gondola load. It is a 3D printed model:

https://multiscale.digital/collections/ho-1-87/products/ho-scale-birchfield-industrial-fire-tube-boiler-flatcar-load

This is a very large boiler. It scales out at roughly 18 feet long, 13 feet high and 8 feet wide.

This photo shows as many as two of these large boilers and two smaller ones on a fifty-ton flat car:

http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p17061coll21/id/15644/rec/1807

Out of curiosity, what would one of these larger boilers weight?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


former VGN cars?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Are the six axle gons former VGN cars? If so, they are far from home.
 
 
More information can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


boxcars can be lined up on two tracks

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
At some industries, boxcars can be lined up on two tracks such that the far car is accessed by walking thru the near car and then across a steel plate serving as a bridge to get to the far car.
 
This can be seen nicely in he image below...
 
 
More information can be found at the link below...
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund


Re: Weathering powder binder

Douglas Harding
 

My understanding is that Bragdon’s has an adhesive mixed in which is activated by pressure. Rubbing the powder generates the required pressure.

 

To my knowledge no other weathering powders have any kind of binder or adhesive.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Weathering powder binder

 

Can anyone tell me what the binder is in weathering powders? What is the substance that makes the powders stick when rubbed? Onto a steam era freight car.

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR

 

 


Re: B&O P-25D in HO

Bruce Griffin
 

Jim,

Great looking model.  Were these the cars modified for drywall loading?  

Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD
https://bomodeling.com/blog/

 


Re: B&O P-25D in HO

Jim Betz
 

Jim,

  Do you know why the decal film forms a 'shadow' around all of the 
lettering?  Did you decal after the weathering of the areas where
the decals are?  Lighting?  (Some times decals will reflect a flash
when without that intensity of light you don't see them.)

  It is not obtrusive - I think it is a great looking car and would be
happy to be able to say "I did this" of that car.

  Does any one know what service cars like this one were most
likely used in?  I'm referring to the low bulkhead ends.
                                                                                        - Jim


Weathering powder binder

Richard Townsend
 

Can anyone tell me what the binder is in weathering powders? What is the substance that makes the powders stick when rubbed? Onto a steam era freight car.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR



Re: B&O P-25D in HO

O Fenton Wells
 

Nice looking car Jim. Well done 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 5:00 PM, Jim King <jimking3@...> wrote:



Attached is a low-rez photo of an Intermountain 70-ton AAR bulkhead flat I modified to represent a B&O P-25D.  The car represents 1 of 50 built at B&O’s Dubois PA shops in 1959 wearing stenciling that’s about a year later than the 6-61 reweigh date. 

 

A light application of Turpenoid and black, oil-based powder, was brushed on the laser-cut deck and ends as a base coat.  All subsequent weathering to the deck, sides and ends was done with MANY layers of powders ranging from red to orange to dark grey.

 

An article on how to make this car, including the hardware locker on the “A” end, will appear in Issue 52 of the B&O Modeler to be published later this year.  Here's the link to that site:  https://borhs.org/modelermag/index.html.  Really interesting articles from previous issues are available for download.

 

 

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Re: Evemodel HO flat cars

Douglas Harding
 

IIRC The saying came about because the car would hold 40 men or 8 horses. Useful information for the military planners needing to move men and materials.

 

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kai Solvei
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:24 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars

 

I couldn’t find that car, but old Norwegian boxcars used by the military (collapsible benches) had the marking “40 men or 8 horses” like this car built in 1899 and in traffic until 1960.
https://njk.no/kroderbanen-rullende-materiell/godsvogner/75-rullende-materiell/materiellpresentasjon-godsvogner/4769-g2-8121

By US standard a tiny car, 24 feet over the buffers, and would probably fit inside a US 40ft boxcar 😊

 

Kai Solvei

Norway

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of pgrace via groups.io
Sent: torsdag 23. april 2020 18:07
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars

 

Looking at their other cars, they appear to be European in prototype, there is a small 4 wheel box car in Norwegian livery which is somewhat odd!. ( I am not sure that the Norwegians marked their cars "40 men and 8 horses" as well)

The brake gear under the cars also looks odd and I wonder if the models are of a European or Chinese flat car.


Photo: PRR Boxcar

David
 

Anyone recognize the car with the dark murphy end (black?) and light colored side
that the PRR X26 is coupled to? It could be a USRA double sheathed rebuild.
I don't think it's a USRA or derivative. The truck is rather close to the end, which suggests to me a 5'0" draft arm.

David Thompson


Re: Evemodel HO flat cars

Charles Peck
 



 
No dashes in PRR numbers. Besides, it's 

PENNSYLVANIA SIX FIVE OH OH OH

Tom Madden
Which will STILL get you the Hotel Pennsylvania in NYC.
Chuck Peck 

 

 


Re: Evemodel HO flat cars

Tom Madden
 

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 01:26 PM, John Barry wrote:
Aw shucks, they got the number wrong on the bottom car, the prototype is 

PENNSYLVANIA 6-5000

No dashes in PRR numbers. Besides, it's 

PENNSYLVANIA SIX FIVE OH OH OH

Tom Madden

 

 


B&O P-25D in HO

Jim King
 

Attached is a low-rez photo of an Intermountain 70-ton AAR bulkhead flat I modified to represent a B&O P-25D.  The car represents 1 of 50 built at B&O’s Dubois PA shops in 1959 wearing stenciling that’s about a year later than the 6-61 reweigh date. 

 

A light application of Turpenoid and black, oil-based powder, was brushed on the laser-cut deck and ends as a base coat.  All subsequent weathering to the deck, sides and ends was done with MANY layers of powders ranging from red to orange to dark grey.

 

An article on how to make this car, including the hardware locker on the “A” end, will appear in Issue 52 of the B&O Modeler to be published later this year.  Here's the link to that site:  https://borhs.org/modelermag/index.html.  Really interesting articles from previous issues are available for download.

 

 


Re: Evemodel HO flat cars

John Barry
 

Aw shucks, they got the number wrong on the bottom car, the prototype is 

PENNSYLVANIA 6-5000


John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 07:51:01 PM EDT, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


Kindergarten rule! (if you can't say something nice, don't say anything...)

"Oddities" is hardly the word I would use... It's way too nice 😉

Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:13 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Evemodel HO flat cars
 

Gents,

 

I stumbled upon these on eBay today:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1pc-2pcs-3pcs-5pcs-HO-Scale-52ft-Flat-Car-1-87-Rolling-Stock-Freight-Car/193206684745?_trkparms=aid%3D555021%26algo%3DPL.SIMRVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20190711100440%26meid%3D570f039d9b89433088a1993b4f8ea179%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D3%26mehot%3Dpf%26sd%3D142358706013%26itm%3D193206684745%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplRVIAMLv5WebWithPLRVIOnTopCombiner&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982

 

I’ve had never heard of this company, “Evemodel,” before. 

 

Note the one “LEHIGHTON, PA 18235”…What the…?  That’s the zip code for that city…

 

I thought these were oddities and wanted to share with the group.

 

Looking forward to the comments!

 

 

Steve Johnson

Nashville, TN

 

 

 

 

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