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Re: RMJ Back Issues Still Available?

Richard Hendrickson
 

On May 25, 2007, at 3:35 PM, culturalinfidel9 wrote:

Does anyone know if back issues of Railmodel Journal are still
available from the publisher? Anyone have a phone number? I need some
freight car articles!

Thanks,
Dan Miller
Go to the website, www.railmodeljournal.com, for a list of available
back issues and ordering instructions.

Richard Hendrickson


Re: NRC - NP

Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
 

Thanks for the data point. The only thing that surprised me was the
build date; I just checked
all the photos I know of of the NRC 9000-10000 series cars and none
show blt date just reweigh

I have a poor copy of a NP 93xxx series car so I've yet to confirm
visually but based on the trust plate
data given yesterday, this sure looks like a fit

Roger Hinman

On May 24, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Ed Hawkins wrote:


On May 24, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Roger Hinman wrote:

It would be helpful if anyone with an ACF builder's list could
confirm these cars show up as sold to NP

NP had long term contract relationships with NRC for car leasing but
no ownership.
Roger,
The ACF lot list specifies the following for lot 9310:

Quantity: 1,000 cars
Customer name: Northern Pacific Ry.
Order date: 1922 (order immediately preceding was in March 1922)
Description: 35-ton S.U. refrigerator car
Plant built: Chicago

The builders photo of NP 93589 shows a build date of 11-22.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins





RMJ Back Issues Still Available?

culturalinfidel9 <djmiller@...>
 

Does anyone know if back issues of Railmodel Journal are still
available from the publisher? Anyone have a phone number? I need some
freight car articles!

Thanks,
Dan Miller


Re: Looking for restored FGE reefer in the Pacific northwest?? ex-PM

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

Richard Wilkens writes-

That's Rainier Ice and Cold Storage in Seattle.
> "restored FGE reefer at the
> [California State Railroad Museum]....Tacoma Ice & Storage".
Richard has it exactly right, of course.

Denny :-[

--
Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento


Re: Sugar refining in New York City

Bike Guy
 

Probably talking about Refined Syrups and Sugers. I used to switch there in the late 70's. Still in business. I always look at the little suger bags in diners to see if it some product from that plant.


From: "Eric" <newyorkcentralfan@ureach.com>
Reply-To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Sugar refining in New York City
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 06:43:40 -0000

I remember that facility! It was visable from the parkway when
driving to and from NYC.

They had a PRR covered hopper of the H30 class (that's an H-30 for
those of us who don't care how they did things in Altoona.) ;-)

It seemed to have taken up permanent residence there because I saw it
over several years of traveling past it during trips to NYC in the
late 1970s/early 1980s.


Eric Petersson


Ed wrote:

"In the '80s I worked for an employer on the Hudson River a couple
miles north of the NYC city line (you could jump in the river from my
employer's parking lot).

There was a sugar mill a mile or two south of where I worked, also on
the river, but still outside NYC limits. They used to get sugar cane
by water (I'd see the ships from across the river when I was in
college in the '60s). The New York Central main line ran right next
to the factory.

By the time I was working at that job the sugar mill received raw
sugar in Conrail covered hoppers (my lab partner knew several sugar
mill employers). Maybe they received processing chemicals in covered
hoppers too. There were always 6 or 8 covered hoppers parked in the
factory complex which were switched several times a week.

I doubt much sugar was transported in covered hoppers in the time
frame I interested in just after WWII. The old Walthers decal books
show covered hoppers in dedicated service for sugar in the '50s."
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Re: RMJ Back Issues Still Available?

aikenair@...
 

Dan,

Yes, many are available. Go to _www.Railmodeljournal.com_
(http://www.Railmodeljournal.com) for issues available and pricing info.

Don Barnes
Aiken, SC



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gons loaded with coal

ed_mines
 

Can anyone recall photos of gons loaded with coal in the NY,NJ,PA area
after WWII?

I remember seeing a CNJ composite gon loaded with coal (from Chuck
Yungkurth?).

Ed


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BC Electric MoW boxcar X50

Ferko <destron@...>
 

I uploaded a photo of BCER boxcar X-50 to the Files section, but seems
I forgot to make a post with my question.

Though the picture was taken after 1960, the car itself is rather
older. Just yesterday I learned that it was probably acquired
secondhand from Canadian National, who had used it in special service
for a specific commodity. My question is regarding the door: I've
never seen such a door. Does anyone have any information about this
type of door?

Frank Valoczy


Sugar refining in New York City

Eric
 

I remember that facility! It was visable from the parkway when
driving to and from NYC.

They had a PRR covered hopper of the H30 class (that's an H-30 for
those of us who don't care how they did things in Altoona.) ;-)

It seemed to have taken up permanent residence there because I saw it
over several years of traveling past it during trips to NYC in the
late 1970s/early 1980s.


Eric Petersson


Ed wrote:

"In the '80s I worked for an employer on the Hudson River a couple
miles north of the NYC city line (you could jump in the river from my
employer's parking lot).

There was a sugar mill a mile or two south of where I worked, also on
the river, but still outside NYC limits. They used to get sugar cane
by water (I'd see the ships from across the river when I was in
college in the '60s). The New York Central main line ran right next
to the factory.

By the time I was working at that job the sugar mill received raw
sugar in Conrail covered hoppers (my lab partner knew several sugar
mill employers). Maybe they received processing chemicals in covered
hoppers too. There were always 6 or 8 covered hoppers parked in the
factory complex which were switched several times a week.

I doubt much sugar was transported in covered hoppers in the time
frame I interested in just after WWII. The old Walthers decal books
show covered hoppers in dedicated service for sugar in the '50s."


Re: Postwar Freight Car book

RICH NUNN <flyingtigers_nunn@...>
 

Dear Ted:

O would like to speak for one of these books. Please hold one in reserve for me at the Prototype Modelers Meet in Collinsville at the end of next week

Thanks

Rich Nunn


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Re: NRC - NP

Ed Hawkins
 

On May 24, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Roger Hinman wrote:

It would be helpful if anyone with an ACF builder's list could
confirm these cars show up as sold to NP

NP had long term contract relationships with NRC for car leasing but
no ownership.
Roger,
The ACF lot list specifies the following for lot 9310:

Quantity: 1,000 cars
Customer name: Northern Pacific Ry.
Order date: 1922 (order immediately preceding was in March 1922)
Description: 35-ton S.U. refrigerator car
Plant built: Chicago

The builders photo of NP 93589 shows a build date of 11-22.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: Complications

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Russ Strodtz wrote:
First thing that comes to mind is, who is NP leasing the cars from? Second thing is, as far as I know, NP had part ownership of Northern Refrigerator Car.
Whether or not NP had part ownership of NRC (I don't think so), they could still sub-lease to them.

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2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


NRC - NP

Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
 

Well this may clear up another mystery I've had

NRC 9000 and 10000 series cars were built by ACF, put on their roster
in 1928, but never owned by Northern Refrigerator Car company
(confirmed in that company's records)
This means they leased them. My first guess was IC as the Lesse but
it could just as well have been NP. NRC rostered 500 cars in each of
the two series and a quick review of NP shows there were 1000 cars in
the NRC 93000-93999 series. These cars were off the NRC roster in the
30s which would have sent them back to NP.

It would be helpful if anyone with an ACF builder's list could
confirm these cars show up as sold to NP

NP had long term contract relationships with NRC for car leasing but
no ownership.


Roger Hinman

On May 24, 2007, at 5:41 PM, Russ Strodtz wrote:

Now here is a plate that as clear as mud:

From NP drawing #32565, dated 16-Mar-28:

NORTHERN PACIFIC RAILWAY
COMPANY LESSEE.
NORTHERN REFRIGERATOR CAR
COMPANY, SUB-LESSEE.

This was to applied to 500 cars in the series
NP 93000-93999.

First thing that comes to mind is, who is NP leasing the
cars from? Second thing is, as far as I know, NP had part
ownership of Northern Refrigerator Car.

Russ





Complications, Round Two

Russ Strodtz <sheridan@...>
 

Now it becomes clear. Drawing #32660 show how to construct
the "Egg Racks" to be installed in those 500 cars.

For exact car numbers it cites a file but I doubt I'll
see that show up.

Russ


Complications

Russ Strodtz <sheridan@...>
 

Now here is a plate that as clear as mud:

From NP drawing #32565, dated 16-Mar-28:

NORTHERN PACIFIC RAILWAY
COMPANY LESSEE.
NORTHERN REFRIGERATOR CAR
COMPANY, SUB-LESSEE.

This was to applied to 500 cars in the series
NP 93000-93999.

First thing that comes to mind is, who is NP leasing the
cars from? Second thing is, as far as I know, NP had part
ownership of Northern Refrigerator Car.

Russ


Re: Looking for restored FGE reefer in the Pacific northwest?? ex-PM

railsnw1 <railsnw@...>
 

Denny,

That's Rainier Ice and Cold Storage in Seattle.

Richard Wilkens

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Denny Anspach <danspach@...> wrote:

Bill Welch kindly refers to the "restored FGE reefer at the
[California State Railroad Museum]".

This fine 1924 ice wood reefer 35832 never actually needed
"restoring" in the usual sense, and in fact for the most part it
never was. It had been kept intact and in good shape, never
altered,
for many years as an in-house moving storage vehicle by and for
Tacoma Ice & Storage (I think I have that right). It was there that
the late Fred Stindt found it, and arranged to have it shipped to
Sacramento. The SP wouldn't touch it because of its chilled iron
wheels, but the BN and WP agreed to bring it south, but only
tagging
along at the very end behind the cabooses on the various trains
involved.

Aside from clean up and new paint and lettering, almost nothing had
to be done to prepare the car for exhibition. It is one of my
personal favorites.

Denny
--
Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento


Re: Postwar Freight Car book

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

I will be selling these from www.speedwitch.com in a few weeks when
they are available again.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
645 Tanner Marsh Road, Guilford, CT 06437
info@speedwitch.com
www.speedwitch.com
(203) 747-0190


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Re: Sugar refining in New York City

hoghead32 <buckfiveoh@...>
 

The Amstar plant in Baltimore, Md. still ships sugar in covered
hoppers, just not as much as they used to. The tank cars are for
liquified sugar, which Amstar ships quite a bit of. A side line of
their refining process is molasses, now going by truck. The Baltimore
plant dates from the 1920's, so is a mix of old brick and newer sheet
metal buildings. M.J.Buckelew

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "englishintroy" <englij@...> wrote:

Lately I see far fewer rail cars than just a few years ago. There
used to be a lot of covered hoppers, but now just about zero; still
a
few tank cars which I assume are delivering High Fructose Corn Syrup

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