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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
WILLIAM PARDIE
Ooops! Pierre's kit was a Bx44. Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> Date: 12/16/19 4:49 PM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ? It should be noted that Pierre Oliver produced a super kit for this car. I don't know if he still has them in stock Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io" <chiefbobbb@...> Date: 12/16/19 3:13 PM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Seatrain Ships
Doug Pillow
Back in1971 I was an Able Seaman Cardeckman on the Seatrain Texas. We were running New York(Edgewater NJ) TO San Juan Puerto Rico. Each cardeckman had a deck of railroad cars and one track on the main deck. Each watch you had to check the chocks on each car and the turnbuckles on the tiedownson on each car.They were tightened as needed. The cars were winched to the main elevator for hoisting to main deck where they were craned off. A very interesting ship,she was old but stout built pre World War Two. Doug
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
WILLIAM PARDIE
It should be noted that Pierre Oliver produced a super kit for this car. I don't know if he still has them in stock Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io" <chiefbobbb@...> Date: 12/16/19 3:13 PM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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One person needed for Alma branch op session
Jared Harper
I need one person to fill out a train crew on January 25th or 26th. Contact me if you are interested. Lunch will be provided. Jared Harper 420 Woodward Way Athens, GA 30606 706-543-8821
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
WILLIAM PARDIE
It is interesting that this particular car uses the small herald Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: "Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io" <chiefbobbb@...> Date: 12/16/19 3:13 PM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ? Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
I have one Bx-48 photo.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
mopacfirst
The Bx-44 had five panels per side, making it not right for the CB&T model. The Branchline car is much closer.
Interestingly enough, although this class came with those intermediate Youngstown doors with the wide panels (and I went out of my way to equip my Branchline cars with those Southwest Scale doors), most or all of this class had the doors replaced in later years with a newer Youngstown door much closer to the door in the Branchline kit. Ron Merrick
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Re: MONON gon spiral end
Mont Switzer
Yes on the Monon decals. Contact me off line at mswitzer@....
Mont Switzer
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From: "Bill Keene via Groups.Io" <bill41@...>
Date: 12/16/19 12:52 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "main@realstmfc.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] MONON gon spiral end
Are decals available to model this car?
Thanks & Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
Todd Sullivan
Just as a footnote, the prototype photo is of a class Bx-44 Class boxcar, not a Class Bx-48 which is what Brian and Andy have referenced. The CB&T Shops model is lettered as a Bx-48, so their comments pertain to that class, not the Bx-44.
Todd Sullivan.
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Re: ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
When I was creating my freight car roster for my 1957 layout Richard gave me some data on these cars. I have pasted that below. Note I have not yet looked into what reworkings are needed.
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Brian J. Carlson
On Dec 16, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:
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ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
Andy Carlson
Hi Lester- On the Steam Era Freight Car Web Site (different from this io group) Ed Hawkins has data for almost all post war AAR 40' box cars and has data for these cars, but I can say that the Santa Fe was one of three RRs which had 40' 10'6" IH 6' single door 12 riveted panel boxcars. Santa Fe, Denver & Rio Grande and the Great Northern. The Rio Grande had straight lower side sills (think "Cookie cutter"). The Santa Fe Bx-48? box cars had the one year only Youngstown "upside down" 6/6/5 improved Youngstown steel door, built in 1946 which this model has. For a 1946 car, 4/4 improved Dreadnaught ends and rectangular Stanray roof are correct. Your car is remarkably close to being correct, though I can not say if the ATSF straight line map would be correct for this particular class. Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Monday, December 16, 2019, 3:06:42 PM PST, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:
CB&T Shops produced the Limited Edition Car I purchased in the photo in 2013. Ends and roof match the prototype photo in the 1946 Car Builder’s Cyc; however, side panels on model are six vs five on the prototype. Doors also not correct. My question not having any reference data on the Santa Fe. Were any cars produced with the number of panels the model has? Any info. on prototype cars appreciated. Thank You for your time and effort to respond in advance. Lester Breuer
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Re: Odd (to me) Monon car
Brian Termunde
No problem sir, it was interesting to read, and we've certainly have had other partially or completely off-topic posts before. Take Care,
Brian R. Termunde
Midvale, Utah
Re: Odd (to me) Monon car
From: Mont Switzer Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 05:50:05 PST My apologies to the STMF group for the trucking stuff in this message. I didn't know that response was going to the entire group.
Montford L. Switzer President Switzer Tank Lines, Inc.
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ATSF AAR 40’ Box Panels ?
Lester Breuer
CB&T Shops produced the Limited Edition Car I purchased in the photo in 2013. Ends and roof match the prototype photo in the 1946 Car Builder’s Cyc; however, side panels on model are six vs five on the prototype. Doors also not correct. My question not having any reference data on the Santa Fe. Were any cars produced with the number of panels the model has?
Any info. on prototype cars appreciated. Thank You for your time and effort to respond in advance. Lester Breuer
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Need color pic of Gold Bond wrapper
Jim King
I’m finishing modifying an IM AAR bulkhead flat to represent B&O’s P-31c (an extra welded gusset will backdate this 1955) and need a color pic of a car with Gold Bond wrapper over plaster board (sheet rock). These were bright orange with black lettering and white cardboard strips under the steel banding. I’m looking for any bulkhead flat with this type of load, not B&O-specific. The completed model will be featured in upcoming B&OHS Modeler issues (2 parts).
Please reply off-list if you can help. Thanks.
Jim King http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/
-- Jim King http://smokymountainmodelworks.com
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National Perishable Protective Tariff #11 1940 PDF download
Bill Welch
Here is the Download link for a PDF version: https://ia802606.us.archive.org/14/items/CAT10939686/CAT10939686.pdf
Attached is a screen grab of the cover. Bill Welch
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Looking for George Paxon
George, Please contact me at your convenience. Jim Kubanick jekuban@...
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Re: Seatrain Ships
Charlie Vlk
All- Popular Science and Popular Mechanics are a source of many good railroad (freight car) images and articles. Fascinating look into the past when people were interested in how things worked and doing things with their hands. Quite a contrast to today’s “Popular Science” which is more of a catalog for Sharper Image with opinion pieces on technical and scientific issues. Charlie Vlk
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io
Seatrain Ships At the risk of going overboard on this topic, here are some links with more information, photos and diagrams on the Seatrain car ferries. The film is especially interesting. Bob Chaparro Port of Hemet, CA ++++ Popular Science Article, 1929 https://books.google.com/books?id=bCoDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA53&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=true Popular Mechanics Articel, 1947 https://books.google.com/books?id=0N4DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA122#v=onepage&q&f=true Film: Seatrain New Orleans Film made in 1929. A lot of footage showing cars being moved inside the ship. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBE9mzU_9OQ Loading Illustration https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Seatrain_Method.jpg Seatrain ferry loading 1956 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3153401 The specialist crane hoist the cradle loaded with an ATSF boxcar from the Seatrain Louisiana Seatrain Loader, Belle Chasse, LA http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1846297 http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=4624402
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Re: Odd (to me) Monon car
The state "full crew" laws were hilariously written so poorly that these "cabeese"
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could be placed anywhere in the train. The Wabash had similar cars and would just put people inside for the ride. They had nothing to do but hold on for dear life.
On 12/15/2019 3:41 PM, Seth Lakin via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes Salem, Indiana on the Monon. The Monon built in the company shops these “head end cabooses”. They housed the head end brakeman and any LCL that may be carried to be distributed along the line. They were typically used on the wayfreight trains that ran each section of the line. I would have to dig my notes out but there were 6-8 of them built in the late 40’s from flats. --
*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: SP/SSW "DF" loader symbol decal: Is the one"
Tony lol - ok, ignore my reply :-P
On 12/15/2019 3:33 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
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Re: SP/SSW "DF" loader symbol decal: Is the one"
What the?? Tony, the letters were orange-yellow and the rest was black, with an orange-yellow border - just as Bill Welch describes. This was done nicely on Proto 2000 B-50-22 cars. Photos of the style are extremely rare! :-( The style did not last long, as seen in the photo of T&NO 70287. Black on yellow was much more visible than yellow over black. Tim O'Connor
On 12/15/2019 3:19 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
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