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SP/SSW "DF" loader symbol decal: Is the one"

Bill Welch
 
Edited

I looked first on the Microscale website for the attached "DF" Loader symbol used by the SP and SSW and maybe others. Does anyone know if this is available anywhere? I think the "DF" and border are yellow. Can anyone advise the background, border and letter colors please?

Thank you,
Bill Welch


Photo: NKP Boxcar 27664

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: NKP Boxcar 27664

A decent photo of this double-sheathed boxcar:

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-12-15-19/X5091.jpg

I can't quite read the build date but the car was reweighed 8-26.

Photo was taken in East Binghamton, NY, in October 1926.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: West India Fruit & Steamship Company Historic Film

Richard Townsend
 

Is there any evidence of Cuban cars coming to the US, or was all the traffic in US cars?

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Dec 15, 2019 9:15 am
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] West India Fruit & Steamship Company Historic Film

The West India Fruit & Steamship Company had boxcars and refrigerator cars in its fleet. In addition to the traffic between the Port of Palm Beach and Havana, the company also ferried freight cars to New Orleans.
By the middle 1950s, up to eighty railroad cars each way per day were being transferred between the United States and Cuba. Inbound freight to the U.S. included tobacco, refined sugar, pineapples, rum, tomatoes, slaughterhouse byproducts, and scrap metal. Cuban bound freight included less-than-carload merchandise, manufactured goods, chemicals, lard, railway equipment, temperate zone fruit such as apples, pears, and grapes, meat, dairy, steel products, and machinery.
These cars traveled all over. Here are photos of boxcars WIF 321 and WIF 106 in Vancouver, British Columbia:
And more research determined their freight cars did indeed travel to Southern California. I even found a photograph of one of their cars in Los Angeles at a Southern Pacific yard:
The boxcar (WIF 233) is just behind the two tank cars. Also notice the Canadian Pacific eight-hatch meat reefer (CP 283285) to the right.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Armour & Company Reefer 8644

Bob Chaparro
 

Poster On The Armour Reefer

A link courtesy of Richard Kowalski of a post car version, in color:

https://www.hippostcard.com/listing/poster-art-postcard-be-careful-cross-crossings-carefully-1926-chicago-cancel/20844529

Click on the post card to view it without the distortion.

Charlie Vlk noted the post card version is a bit different from the poster:

"Comparing the two the post card is somewhat modified….the top and bottom are cropped and the Be Careful text is brought down to the top of the man’s cap."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: West India Fruit & Steamship Company Historic Film

Bob Webber
 

They got as far as West Oakland....


At 11:14 AM 12/15/2019, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:

The West India Fruit & Steamship Company had boxcars and refrigerator cars in its fleet. In addition to the traffic between the Port of Palm Beach and Havana, the company also ferried freight cars to New Orleans.

By the middle 1950s, up to eighty railroad cars each way per day were being transferred between the United States and Cuba. Inbound freight to the U.S. included tobacco, refined sugar, pineapples, rum, tomatoes, slaughterhouse byproducts, and scrap metal. Cuban bound freight included less-than-carload merchandise, manufactured goods, chemicals, lard, railway equipment, temperate zone fruit such as apples, pears, and grapes, meat, dairy, steel products, and machinery.

These cars traveled all over. Here are photos of boxcars WIF 321 and WIF 106 in Vancouver, British Columbia:

http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/9/2/927338/7658ec35-f30a-4588-a7a3-ceb33329747c-A28964.jpg

http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/9/2/927329/41b0bb2a-a9bf-4ce9-85ad-d213a848aedb-A28963.jpg

And more research determined their freight cars did indeed travel to Southern California. I even found a photograph of one of their cars in Los Angeles at a Southern Pacific yard:

https://digital.library.cornell.edu/catalog/ss:20988463

The boxcar (WIF 233) is just behind the two tank cars. Also notice the Canadian Pacific eight-hatch meat reefer (CP 283285) to the right.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Bob Webber


Re: West India Fruit & Steamship Company Historic Film

Bob Chaparro
 

The West India Fruit & Steamship Company had boxcars and refrigerator cars in its fleet. In addition to the traffic between the Port of Palm Beach and Havana, the company also ferried freight cars to New Orleans.

By the middle 1950s, up to eighty railroad cars each way per day were being transferred between the United States and Cuba. Inbound freight to the U.S. included tobacco, refined sugar, pineapples, rum, tomatoes, slaughterhouse byproducts, and scrap metal. Cuban bound freight included less-than-carload merchandise, manufactured goods, chemicals, lard, railway equipment, temperate zone fruit such as apples, pears, and grapes, meat, dairy, steel products, and machinery.

These cars traveled all over. Here are photos of boxcars WIF 321 and WIF 106 in Vancouver, British Columbia:

http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/9/2/927338/7658ec35-f30a-4588-a7a3-ceb33329747c-A28964.jpg

http://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/uploads/r/null/9/2/927329/41b0bb2a-a9bf-4ce9-85ad-d213a848aedb-A28963.jpg

And more research determined their freight cars did indeed travel to Southern California. I even found a photograph of one of their cars in Los Angeles at a Southern Pacific yard:

https://digital.library.cornell.edu/catalog/ss:20988463

The boxcar (WIF 233) is just behind the two tank cars. Also notice the Canadian Pacific eight-hatch meat reefer (CP 283285) to the right.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: West India Fruit & Steamship Company Historic Film

John Barry
 

Speculation on:

Apples, cherries, and other tree fruits that need a winter frost.
Canned goods that needed insulation from heat or cold enroute.

Speculation off.

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736

On Sunday, December 15, 2019, 1:32:14 AM EST, mel perry <clipper841@...> wrote:


a pfe reefer to cuba at 10:45, wonder
what was being exported?
mel perry

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 10:06 PM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

West India Fruit & Steamship Company Historic Film

Railroad coverage starts about four minutes into the film. The film appears to end without full coverage of exports to the U.S.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLO0qNmSZ7s

Description: "This is a short film about the West India Fruit and Steamship Company based out of West Palm Beach, Florida. It was made as a promotional film for the company I believe in the 1950's. The company was created by my cousin, Daniel E. Taylor and his three brothers from Sea Level, NC. They went on into business and needed a way to ship their products to and from Cuba. There are several shots of Jacksonville area."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: West India Fruit & Steamship Company Historic Film

mel perry
 

a pfe reefer to cuba at 10:45, wonder
what was being exported?
mel perry

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 10:06 PM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

West India Fruit & Steamship Company Historic Film

Railroad coverage starts about four minutes into the film. The film appears to end without full coverage of exports to the U.S.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLO0qNmSZ7s

Description: "This is a short film about the West India Fruit and Steamship Company based out of West Palm Beach, Florida. It was made as a promotional film for the company I believe in the 1950's. The company was created by my cousin, Daniel E. Taylor and his three brothers from Sea Level, NC. They went on into business and needed a way to ship their products to and from Cuba. There are several shots of Jacksonville area."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


West India Fruit & Steamship Company Historic Film

Bob Chaparro
 

West India Fruit & Steamship Company Historic Film

Railroad coverage starts about four minutes into the film. The film appears to end without full coverage of exports to the U.S.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLO0qNmSZ7s

Description: "This is a short film about the West India Fruit and Steamship Company based out of West Palm Beach, Florida. It was made as a promotional film for the company I believe in the 1950's. The company was created by my cousin, Daniel E. Taylor and his three brothers from Sea Level, NC. They went on into business and needed a way to ship their products to and from Cuba. There are several shots of Jacksonville area."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Armour & Company Reefer 8644

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 02:22 PM, Bob Chaparro wrote:
Didn't even bother to drop them to the ground and haul them off, so it seems this reefer was prepared to return to revenue service quickly if needed."
Anyone agree? I certainly do not.
Anyone notice that the wrecker used to set the car on blocking is still in the scene in the fourth photo?

My best guess... the car was damaged in a wreck and the parts gathered together for shipment back to the owner. Subsequently the decision was made to just pay for the car, making it available for service as a line side shed. Now that it's in place, the B&B gang will be by soon enough to strip all the extra hardware and fix it up as a shed.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Armour & Company Reefer 8644

Richard Townsend
 

What struck me was that the stirrups were removed and reattached, inverted and tucked inside the grab irons.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Dec 14, 2019 2:23 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Armour & Company Reefer 8644

I received this comment from someone:
"Note that they apparently sawed off a couple feet of running boards at the end, leaving the braces dangling.  But the remainder seems intact.  Also they removed the corner platforms, and then just dumped them on the roof!  Didn't even bother to drop them to the ground and haul them off, so it seems this reefer was prepared to return to revenue service quickly if needed."
Anyone agree? I certainly do not.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Armour & Company Reefer 8644

Bob Chaparro
 

I received this comment from someone:
"Note that they apparently sawed off a couple feet of running boards at the end, leaving the braces dangling.  But the remainder seems intact.  Also they removed the corner platforms, and then just dumped them on the roof!  Didn't even bother to drop them to the ground and haul them off, so it seems this reefer was prepared to return to revenue service quickly if needed."
Anyone agree? I certainly do not.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Looking for resin reefer parts

Walter Cox
 

Thanks Greg,
There was a post after one of the recent (St. Louis) shows that a hobby shop in Paducah was selling Stan's product. I contacted them and they were sold out. Someone had  just  bought 50 or 60 kits. I was after the kit of the 225 NWX 1955 Renton rebuilds and 2 or 3 sets of the Despatch shops ends for MDT reefers.
If anyone knows of another source for these items I would appreciate hearing of it. While I'm at it is there a scorce for the GTW war emergency gondola.
TIA Walt

In a message dated 12/14/2019 1:30:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, TGREGMRTN@... writes:

Craig is not producing parts at this point.

Greg Martin


-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2019 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Looking for resin reefer parts

If Craig is a reseller does anyone have contact information for Craig ? I could use a few things.
Walt

In a message dated 12/13/2019 1:39:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, TGREGMRTN@... writes:

Tim,

He does.  There are more important parts there than just the reefer parts, but I have a note to him.

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean



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In a message dated 12/12/2019 11:46:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, timboconnor@... writes:


I think Craig Zeni got some - ask him!


On 12/12/2019 2:35 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:

Did anyone acquire Stan's patterns and masters? He had some really unique stuff.

Yours Aye,

Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge  🦆


On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 2:05 PM mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
Speaking of molded ends, I'm looking for unbuilt reefer kits or molded resin ends, roofs and doors made by Stan Rydarowicz.  If you have any you're willing to part with, please contact me off-list (click on the Private button bottom right, then on the Reply to Sender button that's turned blue on bottom right ) at mopacfirst@....

Ron Merrick

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

--
Hey Boss,


Somehow I got deleted from this group in late May. I guess someone didn't like me. Jail is a lonely place.

Greg Martin

--
Hey Boss,


Somehow I got deleted from this group in late May. I guess someone didn't like me. Jail is a lonely place.

Greg Martin 


Looking for resin reefer parts

Greg Martin
 

Craig is not producing parts at this point.

Greg Martin


-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Cox via Groups.Io <WaltGCox@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2019 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Looking for resin reefer parts

If Craig is a reseller does anyone have contact information for Craig ? I could use a few things.
Walt

In a message dated 12/13/2019 1:39:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, TGREGMRTN@... writes:

Tim,

He does.  There are more important parts there than just the reefer parts, but I have a note to him.

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean



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In a message dated 12/12/2019 11:46:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, timboconnor@... writes:


I think Craig Zeni got some - ask him!


On 12/12/2019 2:35 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:

Did anyone acquire Stan's patterns and masters? He had some really unique stuff.

Yours Aye,

Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge  🦆


On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 2:05 PM mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
Speaking of molded ends, I'm looking for unbuilt reefer kits or molded resin ends, roofs and doors made by Stan Rydarowicz.  If you have any you're willing to part with, please contact me off-list (click on the Private button bottom right, then on the Reply to Sender button that's turned blue on bottom right ) at mopacfirst@....

Ron Merrick

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

--
Hey Boss,


Somehow I got deleted from this group in late May. I guess someone didn't like me. Jail is a lonely place.

Greg Martin 

--
Hey Boss,


Somehow I got deleted from this group in late May. I guess someone didn't like me. Jail is a lonely place.

Greg Martin 


Re: offered: HO Great Northern 1958 cu ft covered hopper by Intermountain RTR

Mont Switzer
 

Andy,

Would you please contact me at mswitzer@....

Mont Switzer 



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-------- Original message --------
From: Andy Carlson <midcentury@...>
Date: 12/13/19 5:45 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] offered: HO Great Northern 1958 cu ft covered hopper by Intermountain RTR


Hello-
I have a new, in never been removed from mint packaging condition, Intermountain Great Northern HO 1958 cu ft covered hopper, GN #71025; IM # 48603-02. This car has the version of triangular openings on the car side and is painted in the as-delivered 11-51 mineral red scheme.

Offered for $24, plus buyer to pay $6 shipping by USPS 1st class mail. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee I also accept PayPal.


Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA










New Resin Car Works mini-kit

Eric Hansmann
 

Resin Car Works has released a new HO scale mini-kit to build an Illinois Central single-sheathed boxcar. Kit details are featured in our latest blog post.



Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Re: 3D pantograph mold making

Doug MacLeod
 

Don, I had my 3D Frederick Deckel pantograph since 2004 and hardly used it as the 2D Gordons pantographs do about everything I want.  Gordon 2D pantographs have a taper attachment which is a nice feature when needed.

A CNC mill is almost a requirement on time consuming projects.  The plastic injection molds I make are in brass or aluminum.  Steel molds take ten times or more to make than brass or aluminum.  CNC machining would be the only way to go.  CNC machining is a whole different concept.  A CAD drawing is required  and drawing with CAD is time consuming.  I still like the basic machining methods best. 

Doug

 

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New freight car book for sale

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello everyone,


Just arrived today the new freight car book for the Duluth, Missabe and Iron Range Railroad.


I thought the ore cars would overwhelm the presentation in the book, but that is not the case.  the railroad had many other car types, especially gondolas in steel service.  The 319 page book covers both freight and passenger cars on the Missabe from 1883 to 2004 with a good balance of all eras.


It appears to be a well done book by a knowledgeable author.


Contact me off list to get your copy.


Also got resupplied on the ART and MDC reefer books.


Rails Unlimted
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353


Re: Looking to contact Ed Kaminski . . . now PM Wooden Cabooses

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

I don’t know if this is relevant to your quest, but we have PM Caboose A621at Huckleberry Railroad in Flint, MI. It is on static display, and is appropriate for HRR since most of its right of wayuses the old PM branch from Flint to Fostoria.

Dan Mitchell
==========

On Dec 13, 2019, at 3:34 PM, al.kresse <water.kresse@...> wrote:

Larry,

It is targeted for PM TRACKS magazine published by the now slowly getting reorganized and running again PM Historical Soc.

Got one pix of A545 in Delray yard already.  Got pix of the "new" A800, A804, A811, A822 and A823 from that series.  Your 1972 date is consistent with the last wooden cabeeses usage. Some made until 1974.

I presume your two cabooses were painted yellow?

Al
On December 13, 2019 at 1:23 PM "lrkdbn via Groups.Io" <lrkdbn@...> wrote:

I'm afraid I cannot help you about Ed Kaminski, but I sure would like to know what periodical your article will be in-as I have a great interest in these cars. When I was growing up on the west side of Detroit, the "neighborhood railroad" was the PRR- C&O- Wabash owned Union Belt,They used C&O A-810 and A-812 in their operations up until about 1972.
Sincerely,
Larry King

 


Re: Looking for resin reefer parts

Walter Cox
 

If Craig is a reseller does anyone have contact information for Craig ? I could use a few things.
Walt

In a message dated 12/13/2019 1:39:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, TGREGMRTN@... writes:

Tim,

He does.  There are more important parts there than just the reefer parts, but I have a note to him.

Greg Martin

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean



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In a message dated 12/12/2019 11:46:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, timboconnor@... writes:


I think Craig Zeni got some - ask him!


On 12/12/2019 2:35 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:

Did anyone acquire Stan's patterns and masters? He had some really unique stuff.

Yours Aye,

Mungo Napier, Laird of Mallard Lodge  🦆


On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 2:05 PM mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
Speaking of molded ends, I'm looking for unbuilt reefer kits or molded resin ends, roofs and doors made by Stan Rydarowicz.  If you have any you're willing to part with, please contact me off-list (click on the Private button bottom right, then on the Reply to Sender button that's turned blue on bottom right ) at mopacfirst@....

Ron Merrick

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

--
Hey Boss,


Somehow I got deleted from this group in late May. I guess someone didn't like me. Jail is a lonely place.

Greg Martin 

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