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Re: Kits for sale

gastro42000 <martincooper@...>
 

On May 22, 2020 at 5:38 PM bnpmodeler <bnchmark63@comcast.net> wrote:
hi: please send list. Thanks. Marty Cooper

Greetings group;

I have a bunch of unwanted kits for sale from most of the major producers including Sunshine, Speedwitch, F&C, Westerfield and others, available for bargain prices. If you would like a copy of the list (which is a Word document) please reply to me OFF-LIST at bnchmark63_AT_Comcast_DOT_net. As it is a holiday weekend, I will do my best to get the list to you in a timely fashion but do know that nothing can ship until mid-next week at the earliest. I will accept checks, money orders and PayPal (friends & family), and will ship via USPS Priority Mail, ONLY, with postage paid by the purchaser. I will be happy to ship internationally but be advised shipping has risen dramatically recently. This is a Covid- and smoke-free home. I look forward to hearing from anyone interested, and be sure to include a shipping address for accurate postage quoting. Thanks in advance;

Jim Harr
High Bridge, NJ



Re: Need Scalecoat paint

Schuyler Larrabee
 

My first email to him was four weeks ago . . .

 

No Response.

 

S

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pierre Oliver
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 4:24 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Need Scalecoat paint

 

Use the email address on the website 

Shaun is usually pretty good at returning emails 



On May 22, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:



Sorry for this not perfectly on topic post, but . . .

 

I need one bottle of Scalecoat 1 Silver paint.  

 

I started out a couple of months ago needing several colors, and found most of them, but the silver is the color I need before the others can be used.  Does anyone have leads on shops that:

  1. Might carry Scalecoat 1 and
  2. have enough stock that they’d be likely to have the silver.

I have checked most of the usual suspects, Des Plaines, Caboose in Lakewood CO (closed) and a few others.  Minuteman Scale Models, the manufacturer, hasn’t answered the phone, probably due to “stay at home” orders, for as long as I’ve been looking.  If they did “pick up at our door,” I could drive up there to get it, but . . .

 

Perhaps best to use the “Reply to sender” link below.

 

Thanks

 

Schuyler


CORRECTED COPY Re: [RealSTMFC] USRA and other rebuilt single sheated box cars

Benjamin Hom
 

Ed Sutorik asked:
"I'm having trouble seeing where the Atlas rebuilt USRA cars are wrong for the SL-SF 127000-130499 cars.  They look to match in the photos.  What am I missing?"

The Atlas models with Murphy roof, 8-panel sides, 5/5/5 Murphy ends, and fishbelly underframe are closest to the SL-SF and ACL/C&WC rebuilds; however, the side sills are poorly rendered, with incorrect support brackets and too-shallow relief.  Your call if this bothers you, but at these models' high MSRP (exceeding the Sunshine kits original MSRP and on par with Funaro's current prices), it makes them a poor value.


Ben Hom


Re: Rutland Stock Car in Neutral Yellow Primer

Dave Parker
 

Bill:

Looks great as always.  My only question is do you plan to do anything about the uniformly scribed roofing (basically V-groove siding), that really doesn't look like the prototype roof at all?  See attached pic of R 1906 off to the left.  Other than rebuilding it board-by-board, have you given any thought as to how it might be improved?

With best regards.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: USRA and other rebuilt single sheated box cars

spsalso
 

Brian,


I'm having trouble seeing where the Atlas rebuilt USRA cars are wrong for the SL-SF 127000-130499 cars.  They look to match in the photos.  What am I missing?


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Kits for sale

bnpmodeler
 

Greetings group;

I have a bunch of unwanted kits for sale from most of the major producers including Sunshine, Speedwitch, F&C, Westerfield and others, available for bargain prices. If you would like a copy of the list (which is a Word document) please reply to me OFF-LIST at bnchmark63_AT_Comcast_DOT_net. As it is a holiday weekend, I will do my best to get the list to you in a timely fashion but do know that nothing can ship until mid-next week at the earliest. I will accept checks, money orders and PayPal (friends & family), and will ship via USPS Priority Mail, ONLY, with postage paid by the purchaser. I will be happy to ship internationally but be advised shipping has risen dramatically recently. This is a Covid- and smoke-free home. I look forward to hearing from anyone interested, and be sure to include a shipping address for accurate postage quoting. Thanks in advance;

Jim Harr
High Bridge, NJ


Re: Need Scalecoat paint

fire5506
 

Try Minuteman again,

 This is on their website.
"
Covid-19
Covid-19 Update

 


Company Status - COVID-19 Update (5/19/2020)

 

 

 


MinuteMan Scale Models has resumed operations after our limited operations due to Covid-19

Orders are bening handled on a first come, first served basis. Please expect delays from shipping carriers, especially for shipments to Canada.

Also please anticipate delayed response times for emails and phones. We are working to go through and respond to all emails and voicemails, but this will take some time.

MinuteMan Scale Models is a small family run business, we only have one full time employee (myself) and 3 part time employees, my parents and my daughter.
As you may expect after being closed for 2 months our production of paint will be affected, we will get back to normal production in the coming weeks.

 

You can still place orders online, but please expect delays on shipping.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Thank you for your understanding and patience.

 

Our thoughts and prayers are with you, your families, our first responders and all those essential employees on the frontlines."


 

Thank you for your interest in our products.


Re: Need Scalecoat paint

Joseph
 

Scale model supplies in St. Paul mn
651-646-7781
Joe Binish

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 3:19 PM Dave Pfeiffer <dave.pfeiffer@...> wrote:

Schuyler,

 

Have you checked the supplier directly?  WWW.MINUTEMANSCALEMODELS.COM.  They are the makers of Scalecoat.

 

Dave Pfeiffer

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 3:52 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Need Scalecoat paint

 

Sorry for this not perfectly on topic post, but . . .

 

I need one bottle of Scalecoat 1 Silver paint.  

 

I started out a couple of months ago needing several colors, and found most of them, but the silver is the color I need before the others can be used.  Does anyone have leads on shops that:

1)     Might carry Scalecoat 1 and

2)     have enough stock that they’d be likely to have the silver.

I have checked most of the usual suspects, Des Plaines, Caboose in Lakewood CO (closed) and a few others.  Minuteman Scale Models, the manufacturer, hasn’t answered the phone, probably due to “stay at home” orders, for as long as I’ve been looking.  If they did “pick up at our door,” I could drive up there to get it, but . . .

 

Perhaps best to use the “Reply to sender” link below.

 

Thanks

 

Schuyler


Re: Need Scalecoat paint

Pierre Oliver
 

Use the email address on the website 
Shaun is usually pretty good at returning emails 

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


On May 22, 2020, at 3:53 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:



Sorry for this not perfectly on topic post, but . . .

 

I need one bottle of Scalecoat 1 Silver paint.  

 

I started out a couple of months ago needing several colors, and found most of them, but the silver is the color I need before the others can be used.  Does anyone have leads on shops that:

  1. Might carry Scalecoat 1 and
  2. have enough stock that they’d be likely to have the silver.

I have checked most of the usual suspects, Des Plaines, Caboose in Lakewood CO (closed) and a few others.  Minuteman Scale Models, the manufacturer, hasn’t answered the phone, probably due to “stay at home” orders, for as long as I’ve been looking.  If they did “pick up at our door,” I could drive up there to get it, but . . .

 

Perhaps best to use the “Reply to sender” link below.

 

Thanks

 

Schuyler


Re: Need Scalecoat paint

Dave Pfeiffer
 

Schuyler,

 

Have you checked the supplier directly?  WWW.MINUTEMANSCALEMODELS.COM.  They are the makers of Scalecoat.

 

Dave Pfeiffer

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 3:52 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Need Scalecoat paint

 

Sorry for this not perfectly on topic post, but . . .

 

I need one bottle of Scalecoat 1 Silver paint.  

 

I started out a couple of months ago needing several colors, and found most of them, but the silver is the color I need before the others can be used.  Does anyone have leads on shops that:

1)     Might carry Scalecoat 1 and

2)     have enough stock that they’d be likely to have the silver.

I have checked most of the usual suspects, Des Plaines, Caboose in Lakewood CO (closed) and a few others.  Minuteman Scale Models, the manufacturer, hasn’t answered the phone, probably due to “stay at home” orders, for as long as I’ve been looking.  If they did “pick up at our door,” I could drive up there to get it, but . . .

 

Perhaps best to use the “Reply to sender” link below.

 

Thanks

 

Schuyler


Need Scalecoat paint

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Sorry for this not perfectly on topic post, but . . .

 

I need one bottle of Scalecoat 1 Silver paint.  

 

I started out a couple of months ago needing several colors, and found most of them, but the silver is the color I need before the others can be used.  Does anyone have leads on shops that:

  1. Might carry Scalecoat 1 and
  2. have enough stock that they’d be likely to have the silver.

I have checked most of the usual suspects, Des Plaines, Caboose in Lakewood CO (closed) and a few others.  Minuteman Scale Models, the manufacturer, hasn’t answered the phone, probably due to “stay at home” orders, for as long as I’ve been looking.  If they did “pick up at our door,” I could drive up there to get it, but . . .

 

Perhaps best to use the “Reply to sender” link below.

 

Thanks

 

Schuyler


Re: Need WLE/NKP 24200-24501 series help

Ray Breyer
 

Hi Jim, 

Photos (including 11 P-S builder's images) heading your way off list.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


On Friday, May 22, 2020, 02:14:34 PM CDT, Jim King <jimking3@...> wrote:


Several years ago, I produced an HO Tennessee Central boxcar as-delivered in 1941 with flat, riveted roof and with what most modelers know as PS-0 ends (correct nomenclature is “proprietary Pullman Corrugated Ends”).  W&LE also had a small fleet of these cars with the same body style but with different doors and appliances.  The W&LE cars were gradually repainted into NKP following leasing of W&LE but kept the same numbers.

 

I am considering upscaling the CAD files and offering in S, maybe O, but need photos of the NKP cars before deciding to move forward.  Can someone point me to a source for photos of NKP cars in the 24200-24501 series?

 

Jim King

http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/

 


Need WLE/NKP 24200-24501 series help

Jim King
 

Several years ago, I produced an HO Tennessee Central boxcar as-delivered in 1941 with flat, riveted roof and with what most modelers know as PS-0 ends (correct nomenclature is “proprietary Pullman Corrugated Ends”).  W&LE also had a small fleet of these cars with the same body style but with different doors and appliances.  The W&LE cars were gradually repainted into NKP following leasing of W&LE but kept the same numbers.

 

I am considering upscaling the CAD files and offering in S, maybe O, but need photos of the NKP cars before deciding to move forward.  Can someone point me to a source for photos of NKP cars in the 24200-24501 series?

 

Jim King

http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/

 


Re: USRA and other rebuilt single sheated box cars

Dennis Storzek
 

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 09:16 AM, Donald B. Valentine wrote:
I gather that rebuilt USRA double 
sheathed cars are those with eight panels per side while those with ten panels 
per side are rebuilt from double sheathed cars of a different design, and 
therefore different framing, than the USRA cars. Does anyone know if this is 
correct?
Don, You do realize that the USRA double sheathed car has a wood frame, so there was no framing to be saved. YSDCo. just viewed the underframe (which did have steel side sills) as a raft upon which to build a new box. And since the new boxes were built to the same width as the new 1932 ARA car, none of the framing from the various steel framed single sheathed cars was salvageable, either. The increased width is the reason the side posts look like they are mounted on brackets - they are. There is also either a step in the side at the corner post, to match the old narrower end (common on rebuilds of DS cars) or wide formed angles riveted over the corners of the even narrower ends used on SS cars. I'm no expert on YSDCo. production, but any changes in sheathing patterns and post count were made for reasons other than differences in the donor cars being rebuilt.

I agree that the Atlas model misses the mark in a number of areas; first off, I recall the underframe is too wide, and so misses the correct body too wide for the frame look. I also recall they screwed up the Murphy panel roof, bringing the raised portion of the panel all the way to the edge of the sheet.

Stick with the Sunshine kits.

Dennis Storzek
 


Rutland Stock Car in Neutral Yellow Primer

Bill Welch
 

Using a photo of Rutland stock car #1960 to guide me I have detailed and damaged this F&C kit. So that I could damage the upper boards I substituted styrene strip of the same size—hopefully avoiding Narrow Gauge Damage Syndrome. Along the lower sill I have used Brass NBW's to model the loosened hardware intended to tighten the ends of the bolsters against the sill as seen in my photo. Also along the bottom are devices I think are intended to permit the vertical braces tight. For these I used Plastruct .025 Rod and harvested Detail Associates NBW's on the each end of the rod. These are inserted into holes along the bottom of the sill. The prototype photo shows that the bolts used to connect the braces to the side sheathing are countersunk, I assume to make it easier to slide the door open. Again I used Plastruct rod topped with harvested Athearn rivets. Although a fair amount of fiddly work, I really like the result. Let me know if you have questions.

Model On!
Bill Welch


Re: B&M Freight Equipment

James Brewer
 

Ken,

From the July 1958 ORER.

Jim Brewer


Re: USRA and other rebuilt single sheated box cars

Brian Carlson
 

As discussed innumerable times on the list the Atlas rebuild is a mongrel that matches nothing out of the box.  It’s a tooling that should be thrown away. 

The tichy rebuild is good for P&LE. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On May 22, 2020, at 12:17 PM, Donald B. Valentine via groups.io 


Re: B&M Freight Equipment

A&Y Dave in MD
 

Ken,

Now you have the July 1934 B&M pages for your collection (attached PDF).

Dave Bott

Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 6:24:11 PM, you wrote:


I've been working on putting info of all the B&M freight equipment on the web:
   
https://www.bmrrhs.org/freight-car-data/
As a lot of the cars cover the era of this list, I'm hoping this is an appropriate post.

I would appreciate feedback on the overall organization of the site, and also what info you would find useful, that isn't there (as well as any other feedback you care to give)
Reply here or (as I think my email will show up in the emails you get from groups.io) to me directly

I am also looking for more B&M data from ORERs.  The list of ones I have is here:
   
https://www.bmrrhs.org/s/ORER_Data_I_Have.pdf

Unfortunately, all my planned research trips to fill in the missing ORER data have been put on hold for a bit (dang global pandemics ;-)
If anyone is interested in taking time away from modeling to scan/send me B&M data for the ones that are missing (or have legibility problems) I would much appreciate it.

Thanks...Ken Akerboom



--
David Bott

Sent from David Bott's desktop PC
--
____________________________
David Bott, modeling the A&Y in '34


Re: USRA and other rebuilt single sheated box cars

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

Hi folks,
      In looking over what is available in HO scale for models of rebuilt double 
sheathed boxcars I've come up with a number of questions. I'm familiar with 
he early Sunshine kits for this type of car and built one of them for the ACL 
years ago. Recently I've been looking at the Atlas models for this type of car 
and have concluded that it's quite a bit better than I thought when first looking 
at one several years ago. I also like the fact that the car has a reasonably scale
thickness door that is well designed and opens to the full width of the prototype. 
This is a feature that I realize I am sticky about but feel it should be mandatory 
for all house car models in HO or larger scales  Some of these care have eight 
panels per side and some have 10 panels, just as Youngstown supplied them. 
But this is what raises my first question. I gather that rebuilt USRA double 
sheathed cars are those with eight panels per side while those with ten panels 
per side are rebuilt from double sheathed cars of a different design, and 
therefore different framing, than the USRA cars. Does anyone know if this is 
correct? Also, the Santa Fe had a lot of USRA double sheathed cars most of 
which seem to have been rebuilt with steel sides prior to WW II. But what about 
the Sou. Pac. and the Western Pacific that Atlas is decorating some of these 
models for? Here I suspect we are dealing with rebuilds of none USRA cars. Is 
this correct? I'm also aware that the Rock Island rebuilt a number of such cars. 
but believe most R.I. rebuilds were from USRA cars. With the C&NW I'm 
comfortable with the car but when did the C&NW begin painting the rebuilds 
with colorful green & yellow paint? Lastly we come to the Wabash and it's 
subsidiary, the Ann Arbor. My knowledge is that they both ran their single 
sheathed cars in that form until the cars were retired or am I incorrect in this? 
The Frisco had a huge number of USRA double sheathed cars and ran a major 
rebuilt program for them. However it appears to me that there were stilll over 
1,000 such cars that the Frisco did NOT rebuild that continued in use.The 
Tichy rebuild kit, for which I don't like the tooling for the ends, is of a P&LE car 
but were all NYC and/or subsidiary roads double sheathed cars rebuilt in the 
same fashion? Lots of cars and lots of questions but these are the ones I am 
most concrened with and would appreciate any comments on.

Thanks to all who can assist.
My best, Don Valentine   


Re: Photo: American Tar Products Tank Car 1100

Allen Cain
 

Bob,

Thanks for posting the American Tar Products photo.

Flash back to my days as a young man unloading tar from steam heated cars into steam heated pumps and steam jacketed piping at an Alcoa Electrode Manufacturing Plant.

Good motivation to become and engineer!

Allen Cain

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