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Re: Stations & Reweigh Symbols, Rev. #3
Dennis Storzek <dstorzek@...>
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "James F. Brewer" <jfbrewer@c...> wrote:
Stations & Reweigh Symbols to the files section of the list. Here are a few more additions and correctionns to the SOO locations: FN is actually the shops in NORTH Fond du Lac, WI, about three miles north of FDL proper. Thief River Falls is in MN Gladstone is in MI Harvey is in ND Marquette is in MI, not IN, and should be noted that the Soo changed this symbol from the MARQ that the DSS&A was using after the two roads merged in 1961 Shoreham Shops is in MN, and the actual location is Minneapolis. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola
It's not often I agree with Tim, although his modeling work Why, thank you Andy! Just for that I promise not to make fun of your Belpaire boilered 2-8-4 Bowser rebuild for at least a week. :-) (just kidding) tim o Other than the ancient technology Trains Miniature (now Walthers Trainline and not
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Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola
Roger Parry <uncleroger@...>
I agree about the wire grabs over plastic IF the model is to have individual grabs.
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On Nov 30, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Jim Betz wrote:
And as long as we're talking about WIBNIs (wouldn't it be nice if) ...
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Re: 40' plug door ice reefers
rich, that's true, but the SFRD reefers were rebuilds of 1920's
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reefers and could not be mistaken for a postwar steel reefer under any circumstances. if you want to know how many paint schemes can be applied to 40ft steel plug door reefers, just look at the Intermountain R-40-23! Most of the private owner schemes they applied to that car should have been applied to a plug door car! tim o
C&BT shops did a 40' SFRD reefer with a 6' plug door in 4 versions. Walthers
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Southern Car & Foundry Tank Cars
Shawn Beckert
While we're on the subject of tank cars, has there been any
progress on the tank cars that SC&F hopes to bring out in the (hopefully) near future? John Cagle showed me the brass etchings for one of the cars at Naperville; has a mold been produced for this car? Perhaps that SC&F field rep, Mr. Brock, can fill us in... Shawn Beckert
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Re: AC&F Type 11 (was Cities Service tank car question)
Richard Hendrickson
On Nov 29, 2005, at 8:09 PM, Rob Kirkham wrote:
Thanks for the reference to the PRR cars Elden. That is helpful. As II would agree. But not all differences between types were visually apparent; there were also specification changes having to do with materials and manufacturing processes which photos don't show. I also noted that between the Type 7 (and 11) cars and the Type 21All true. Equally important – though, again, not readily apparent except from the stenciling – was the fact that the tanks on cars built after 1917 conformed to ARA Specs. III or IV, rather than to the earlier Spec. II. Richard Hendrickson
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Stations & Reweigh Symbols, Rev. #3
James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
Just a note to let you know that I have uploaded a revised file of Stations & Reweigh Symbols to the files section of the list.
The revision corrects a DT&I symbol, thanks to Mark Heiden. It also adds some symbols for FGEX and B&O based upon the information in RPC Vol 12. Jim Brewer Glenwood MD
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New file uploaded to STMFC
STMFC@...
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the STMFC group. File : /Station & Reweigh Symbols.xls Uploaded by : jamesfbrewer <jfbrewer@comcast.net> Description : Stations & Reweigh Symbols, Revision #3 You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/STMFC/files/Station%20%26%20Reweigh%20Symbols.xls To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, jamesfbrewer <jfbrewer@comcast.net>
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40 ft plug door reefers (was:Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola)
Miller, Andrew S. <asmiller@...>
I had forgotten about those Rich. I have been looking for them during
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my travels, but hadn't seen anything from C&BT for some time. Wasn't the owner quite ill? I remember he had produced test shot of PRR X29b's (and d's), a car I have wanted for some time, but the final product never materialized. regards, Andy Miller
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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SUVCWORR@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:12 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola Andy: C&BT shops did a 40' SFRD reefer with a 6' plug door in 4 versions. Walthers still catalogues these but the availability is questionable at this point. Rich Orr -----Original Message----- From: Miller, Andrew S. <asmiller@mitre.org> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:39:09 -0500 Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola It's not often I agree with Tim, although his modeling work is gorgeous. But I second his suggestion this time. Other than the ancient technology Trains Miniature (now Walthers Trainline and not currently available) car, no one that I can recall has ever done a 40' plug door ice reefer. And I carved up quite a few of my stash of those to make stand-in REA 50' express reefers in 1987. (Ref my article in 1987 MR). They were they pride and joy of my M&E trains until last year when the real McCoys started to appear from Walthers and Branchline. regards, Andy Miller -----Original Message----- From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of timboconnor@comcast.net . . . If that seems too similar to the Athearn reefer (and Walthers already announced an FGE reefer), then a plug door 40 foot steel ice reefer would be a good item... And you could get away with a heck of a lot of paint schemes on those. Just do the same PC&F car Sunshine did; I think Martin found a half dozen legit lettering schemes. Tim O. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola
SUVCWORR@...
Andy:
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C&BT shops did a 40' SFRD reefer with a 6' plug door in 4 versions. Walthers still catalogues these but the availability is questionable at this point. Rich Orr
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From: Miller, Andrew S. <asmiller@mitre.org> To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:39:09 -0500 Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola It's not often I agree with Tim, although his modeling work is gorgeous. But I second his suggestion this time. Other than the ancient technology Trains Miniature (now Walthers Trainline and not currently available) car, no one that I can recall has ever done a 40' plug door ice reefer. And I carved up quite a few of my stash of those to make stand-in REA 50' express reefers in 1987. (Ref my article in 1987 MR). They were they pride and joy of my M&E trains until last year when the real McCoys started to appear from Walthers and Branchline. regards, Andy Miller -----Original Message----- From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of timboconnor@comcast.net . . . If that seems too similar to the Athearn reefer (and Walthers already announced an FGE reefer), then a plug door 40 foot steel ice reefer would be a good item... And you could get away with a heck of a lot of paint schemes on those. Just do the same PC&F car Sunshine did; I think Martin found a half dozen legit lettering schemes. Tim O. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola
And as long as we're talking about WIBNIs (wouldn't it be nice if) ...
I'd -much- rather have metal grabs and drop steps and have the model have small indents for locating the drilling I will do myself. I'm sick and tired of 'scale' plastic parts that don't fit the holes and break when you try to install them!
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Re: Forreston interchange
John Swanson <dwlscbq@...>
First and foremost, a sincere thank you to Tim for his work and analysis on the interchange lists. Thanks to efforts such as this the lists become even more useful. (Besides I tend to be a bit of a data junky and collector. Now if I could just remember it all----))
I have to jump in to defend all of Ted Richardson's efforts as he is as meticulous as any person I have ever known. Ted went so far as to study some recurring conductors to establish how they wrote certain letters so he could transfer the data more accurately. When I found the books they were written by the conductors, not the agent and were originally left in the shanty by the IC. Any "errors" are in trying to read the conductors writing (very few) and many are a direct transfer of the initials written by the conductor making out the list. The Forreston interchange was mainly used as a delivery point for westbound traffic and High-Wide loads as the Gruber was used as a high-wide route around Chicago. After a halfcentury, I find it just interesting to read of the commodities carried and the cars of roads so long gone. John Swanson
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Re: Pounding sheet lead (was Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola)
Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
McMaster-Carr carries a wide variety of lead sheet from .032" up to 2" and
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various lengths and widths. http://www.mcmaster.com/ In the search box, try "lead sheet" -- Thanks! Brian Ehni
From: Richard White <rhwhite@botsnet.bw>
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Re: Pounding sheet lead (was Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola)
Richard White
Tim O'Connor wrote:
What? You didn't get any of Terry Wegmann's cast metal GS doors? ;-) Instead of pounding the lead, how would rolling a steel ball or pipe over it work? Rolling seems more precise than pounding... I have tried this and it doesn't work as you need a hell of a lot of pressure on the lead sheet to roll it out. Judicious hammering works well - it's actually the technique that used to be used for making gold leaf. As kids, we used to take pieces of lead (and coins) and put them on the rail before a train went by. Made marvellous thin foil which had lots of modelling uses (but is too thin to use as a weight!). Then we discovered the foil round wine bottle necks and old toothpaste tubes as sources of lead foil. Richard White -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 27/11/05
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Re: North Coast Hobbies was Sand blasting booth
Larry Kline
The current contact info for John Polyak (North Coast Hobbies) is:
jrpolyak@juno.com 412-498-8477 Larry Kline Pittsburgh, PA Jack Burgess asked: Is North Coast Hobbies still in business? Does anyone have contact information for them.
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Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola
Miller, Andrew S. <asmiller@...>
Well, to be honest, they don't "come with decals". Accurail has made
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decals specifically for our cars and includes the slip to order them in the box. I believe they cost $3 (+/-). But they do do the best and easiest job of renumbering I have ever seen. It sure beats our technique on previous club cars where the last few digit were left off the car and we included ordinary decal digits to be added. I'll bet most of the cars we sold never have those decals added, and those that did had a decidedly two-tone number, and we never had end numbers on the cars! The Accurail system beats all of these problems since the cars come with a complete number (choice of two numbers) and the decals have a background in the paint to match the car and just overlay the car number and include the end numbers. Accurail deserves a Nobel Prize in Model Railroading for this idea! regards, Andy Miller
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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Schuyler Larrabee Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:35 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola Nice plug for our cars, Andy! What Andy didn't mention is that they come with renumbering decals done Accurail style, which means on a color background which EXACTLY matches the cars. So well, in fact, that Andy tried to renumber a car he'd already renumbered! ;^) SGL -----Original Message----- Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Fallen Flags new images
Larry Kline
Phil,
Thanks for the pointer to these images. There is some great info on color and weathering including roof and underbody shots. Some of the cars shown are on my to do list. Larry Kline Pittsburgh, PA Phil Clark wrote: Interesting images on http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/new27-03dec.html Six images of an NYC Wreck at Amherst OH in 1950s from the Robert Colvig Photo collection. Thirteen images of an NYC Wreck at Elyria OH in 1950s from the Robert Colvig Photo collection.
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Re: Accurail's Forthcoming 40' AAR Gondola
Miller, Andrew S. <asmiller@...>
It's not often I agree with Tim, although his modeling work is
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gorgeous. But I second his suggestion this time. Other than the ancient technology Trains Miniature (now Walthers Trainline and not currently available) car, no one that I can recall has ever done a 40' plug door ice reefer. And I carved up quite a few of my stash of those to make stand-in REA 50' express reefers in 1987. (Ref my article in 1987 MR). They were they pride and joy of my M&E trains until last year when the real McCoys started to appear from Walthers and Branchline. regards, Andy Miller
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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of timboconnor@comcast.net . . . If that seems too similar to the Athearn reefer (and Walthers already announced an FGE reefer), then a plug door 40 foot steel ice reefer would be a good item... And you could get away with a heck of a lot of paint schemes on those. Just do the same PC&F car Sunshine did; I think Martin found a half dozen legit lettering schemes. Tim O.
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Fallen Flags new images
Phil Clark
Interesting images on http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/new27-03dec.html
Six images of an NYC Wreck at Amherst OH in 1950s from the Robert Colvig Photo collection. Thirteen images of an NYC Wreck at Elyria OH in 1950s from the Robert Colvig Photo collection. Phil Clark, ALTON GU34 2RS, UK cell: +44(0)-7792-744-327 ACL & SAL HS since 1998 NMRA #55716 BR#10/119
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Re: Chooch Heavy Cable Spools (HOW heavy are they?)
al_brown03
Not if that's a 50 ton flat they're pictured on ... :-)
(snap reaction after only a half-cup of coffee) Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla. --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Scott Pitzer <scottp459@e...> wrote: (Sunshine Pere Marquette): the "simulated" open space along the bottom (I hate to sand that stuff too much.) As far as length, I can fit two spools in the car if I remove 4" from the end of the blocking of one, and put that end in the center up against the other one, as if the two spools are sharing the center section. Maybe I'm not explaining that well, but my main question is, Would two spools be too heavy for a 50 ton car?
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