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Re: Dalman trucks (was Eastern Car Works Trucks)

Tim O'Connor
 

Then you are in luck, Jon, because someone at Naperville was showing
off a beautiful newly tooled HO Dalman two-level delrin truck model, with
two styles of bolster end inserts, and properly located brake shoes/beams.
I forget his name (!) but he used to work for Model Die Casting and is
now setting out on his own. He wants to sell them with .088 wheels but
I encouraged him to sell just the trucks in large quantities :-) I need at
least 25 pairs of 'em...

Tim O'Connor


Jon Miller wrote

I would like to get a bunch of Dalman two-level but have always felt that the
Red Ball (Cape Line) and Eastern Car Works trucks just didn't look very good.
I would like to see a plastic one piece truck at the level of Accurail or IM!


Re: Coupler Gear Box

Arnold van Heyst
 

Before i buy the Accumate Proto gearboxes,
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to put the boxes underneath a
Red Caboose (X-29?) boxcar and use a Kadee # 58 in it?
Will the coupler have the appropriate height?

Regards,
Arnold
Netherlands.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Denny Anspach <danspach@m...> wrote:

The good Doctor Smith writes-

The distance between two cars is reffered to as the coupling
distance, and
thats another issue entirely <G>!!

It is indeed, and the only coupler combinations that can give you
this routinely are the Accumate Protos- which from my measurements
are drop-dead accurate in this regard. The use of #58s and #78s
require significantly greater coupling distances, although
slightly
less than the short shank #40s, and a lot less than the #5s.

I believe the exact measurements for all are in Files.

Denny



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Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match

Charlie Vlk
 

When ConCor production was in Chicago (Bensenville) they used a variety of
paints.
The Pad Printing operation used inks specially formulated for that process
obtained from commecial sources.
Some Floquil and Scalecoat paints were used (I've saw Gallon cans of both
that were left behind when production moved to Arizona) as well as the
industrial coatings cited.
ConCor had some of their items decorated overseas in factories in Austria,
Yugoslavia, Germany, Italy, Denmark, Hong Kong, China, and Japan. Other
items were molded, decorated and final assembled in the Chicago area. Some
product was shipped to Bensenville and final painted/printed and assembled
in Chicago. For a brief time after ConCor moved to Arizona production was
there with some piecework done across the border in Mexico as well.
Charlie Vlk


Re: Eastern Car Works Trucks

Jon Miller <atsf@...>
 

It was my impression that John Green's recent reproduction of the two
level Dalman trucks were from new tooling replicating the Cape Line
Two-level Dalman #T-24. John had told me that he had obtained the
rights to the Cape Line trucks from the owner after Ertel sold them back
to them.
Was there a connection between the line of Cape Line trucks and those
from the M. Dale Newton Red Ball Line?<

Last first. The Cape Line trucks (to my knowledge) used the same molds
as the Red Ball trucks. I missed what John Green is manufacturing? I would
like to get a bunch of Dalman two-level but have always felt that the Red
Ball (Cape Line) and Eastern Car Works trucks just didn't look very good. I
would like to see a plastic one piece truck at the level of Accurail or IM!

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax, Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI user
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Red Ball 65 ft. gon

armprem
 

There was another company,I believe the name was Railmaster,that made a 65'
gondola as well as some paneled hoppers.Armand Premo----- Original
Message -----
From: "Charles Tapper" <chastap@charter.net>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Red Ball 65 ft. gon


The Red Ball kit is not that good. It lacks a rivet line along the side
where the floor intersects the fishbelly side. No interior detail. I
forget
how many panels it has, but I am not sure it has a specific prototype. I
got a pair and really have not pursued finding a prototype for them. The
thin cast-metal sides would be fun to dent...but 65' DE mill gons didn't
get
a lot of punishment like the 50 and 40 foot gons.

A list of available steam-era 65' gon models versus needed prototypes will
be very short.

Charlie Tapper






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Re: Mainline Photos

ed_mines
 

Do you have an address for Mainline Photos? What are some of the
momorable freight car photos he offers?

Ed


Re: ATSF Stock cars

Bruce Smith
 

On Nov 7, 2005, at 8:33 AM, Schuyler Larrabee wrote:

http://www.imrcmodels.com/ho/html/47909.htm

Did I miss something? What's with the yellow on the doors?
Yes <G> - Yellow doors are double deck cars. AFAIK the Intermountain models do not accurately model these cars but I'll let the ATSF modelers comment in more detail.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce F. Smith
Auburn, AL
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Re: N'ville atfermath

Brian Termunde
 

In a message dated 11/7/2005 11:37:45 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
shawn.beckert@disney.com writes:

The only downside of the trip was Chicago itself - people there drive worse
than in LA (is that possible?).


---> Sure...come to Utah! I understand that they were just as bad during the
Steam Era (in a hopeless attempt to include something that is vaguely on
topic! <G>)


Take Care!

Brian R. Termunde
West Jordan, Utah

"Ship and Travel the Grand Canyon Line!"
Grand Canyon Railway
Utah District


ATSF Stock cars

Schuyler Larrabee
 

http://www.imrcmodels.com/ho/html/47909.htm

Did I miss something? What's with the yellow on the doors?

SGL


Re: Mainline Photos

Tim O'Connor
 

Bob, just to correct the record, Robert Liljestrand is not a
photographer -- he is a merchant, and he has purchased several
wonderful collections and made them available to us. Michael is
a very good photographer and prints background information about
each photo on his prints. In Bob's case we're lucky to know the
year and/or location of the photograph, and in some cases, the
photographer. About 67% of the photos I've bought from him over
the years have no identification whatever.

Tim O'Connor

At 09:11 AM 11/7/2005, you wrote:
Mainline Photos (J. Michael Gruber) was down in the vendor room on
Saturday. He has a lot of photos, but nowhere near as many as
Bob. There is no connection between the two aside from both being
photographers and sellers of photos. Mainline sells a lot of
Pullman passenger and PRR & NYC passenger car photos, along with a
lot of steam locomotive and some freight photos. Freight photos are
not the centerpiece but he has some nice ones.


Kitbashed Athearn (was:Red Ball 65 ft. gon)

Miller, Andrew S. <asmiller@...>
 

I kitbashed a 65' gon from Athearns many years ago - before I learned
that mill gons were not only longer, but also narrower.

regards,

Andy Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ed_mines
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:07 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Red Ball 65 ft. gon

Red Ball had a pretty nice mill gon with the ribs very far apart.

The size of the ribs is pretty small, particularly compared to the
Athearn car which has rivets the size of Ho scale tennis balls.

I remember some guy did a real nice job of kit bashing those Athearn
clunkers. I have about a dozen Athearn gon shells somewhere.

Ed








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Mainline Photos

Bob Webber <no17@...>
 

Mainline Photos (J. Michael Gruber) was down in the vendor room on Saturday. He has a lot of photos, but nowhere near as many as Bob. There is no connection between the two aside from both being photographers and sellers of photos. Mainline sells a lot of Pullman passenger and PRR & NYC passenger car photos, along with a lot of steam locomotive and some freight photos. Freight photos are not the centerpiece but he has some nice ones.


At 02:36 AM 11/7/2005, STMFC@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Message: 1
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:25:23 -0800
From: "Jim and Lisa Hayes" <jimandlisa97225@verizon.net>
Subject: RE: Re: N'ville atfermath

Ed, Mainline's room was just down the hall from Bob's. There may be some
connection. Each of them had a sign telling where the other was.
Mainline had a smaller selection. He didn't have the specific item I was
looking for so I didn't stay to browse and can't tell you what he had to
offer.

Jim Hayes
Portland Oregon
Bob Webber


Re: Soo Line SS Boxcar

Dennis Storzek <dstorzek@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "buchwaldfam" <duff@g...> wrote:

Dennis,
Thanks for the great explanation! I have two questions.
First, you mention that the 1926 cars had corrugated ends.
Were these 7/8 ends like the Accurail cars have?
Unfortunately, no, they are 7 / 7.

Also, were the Soo and the Northern Pacific arched roofs from
the same supplier? I was able to use Details West Northern Pacific
arched roofs by cutting one panel from one end, and grafting it onto
the opposite end, then narrowing the roof at the centerline. The Soo
roof has one fewer cap seams than the NP roof, and by narrowing it at
the centerline, the new center seam is easy to hide under the roof walk.
They appear to be. I don't know specifically what the NP used. The Soo was a big user of Chicago-Cleveland Co. roofing products. Surviving cars from the pre-WW I orders have either the "Superior Outside Metal Roof" (with tubular seam caps) or the "Perfection Flexible Outside Metal Roof" (with flat seam caps). These are both sheet metal roof systems that need to be installed over a wood roof. The cars built in the late 1920 all had the "Zenith" roof, IIRC (can't find my reference for the name.) This was a sheet metal roof meant to cover a wood arch roof. The panels (without pressings) ran continuous from one side of the car to the other, the ends being flanged down and nailed to the fascia. The seams were covered with tubular caps that terminated in iron castings screwed to the fascia. The old Central Valley stockcar roof (I assume this is what you were able to get from DA) was a good model of this, doing the cast clamps rather well. This roof is also usable for modeling a Soo line milk car.

I went to upload some photos to the Files area, and see that it's full. I'll have to get logged on to the STMPH list, but won't get to that for a bit.

By the way, I just noticed that the 1926 cars DO NOT have the Dalman two level trucks, but rather standard looking Andrews trucks.


Dennis Storzek
Big Rock, IL


Subject: Re: Re: N'ville Aftermath

Bob Webber <no17@...>
 

It seems to me that there is a simple, straightforward and obvious cure to his predicament. Ask. But then, he'd have little time to make those cars and kits. But, if he were to send out the pre-meet agenda with a survey, it might help.

The vendor room was also open early, those of us who have been there before and were able to get there (after being jarred awake at 5 by the fire alarm, some may have slept a little later), were able to find some things in a fairly peaceful scene. One thing I would have liked in some of the vendors area would be chairs in the aisles - which the former format allowed. I realize this years format made that somewhat problematical. But when going through 8 tub files of photo it would have helped.

At 09:15 PM 11/6/2005, you wrote:
Every year, Martin bemoans his inability to outguess the crowd
as to what will be hot. This year was no exception. You can be quite
sure he would bring WAY more of the hot new items if he knew which ones
they were.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history
Bob Webber


Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match

Bruce Smith
 

On Mon, November 7, 2005 6:16 am, armand premo wrote:
I have been able to go to hardware stores with a paint sample and have
it mixed and matched.in small quantities.................Not 50
gallons,but
enough to meet my needs.Why pay $3 plus for 2 ounces?I think we have
become accustomed to use only "hobby"paint.Armand Premo
Armand,

Of course you can, but I remind you that THAT was not what you were
advocating. You were suggesting the the paint used on mass produced
models could be bought at a "paint store"... and the bottom line is that
it cannot. Feel free to mix and match! Sounds like a good solution to
me.

Regards
Bruce

Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: Railshops Models

Eric Hansmann <ehansmann@...>
 

Gene S. wroe:

Does Railshops have a presence on the web? I'd like to get a few of
the carbon black hoppers and see what else they may offer.

==================================================


I also did a Google search and a scan over the links at the NMRA Internet
directory. I came up with no hits on either account. It makes me wonder if
that is the real name of the company, or if the note taker mixed things up
between photos, and note taking, and talking to others and, drooling over
the next model....I know I've jotted details down wrong in overwhelming
situations.

Has anyone heard of Railshops before the latest N'ville meet? Are there any
other models they have announced?

Eric Hansmann
Morgantown, W. Va.


Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match

armprem
 

I have been able to go to hardware stores with a paint sample and have
it mixed and matched.in small quantities.................Not 50 gallons,but
enough to meet my needs.Why pay $3 plus for 2 ounces?I think we have become
accustomed to use only "hobby"paint.Armand Premo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Smith" <smithbf@auburn.edu>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: P2K 50' SSW 20000 - 20094 series paint match


On Sun, November 6, 2005 1:10 pm, armand premo wrote:
Jerry,Not to belabor the point,but if the paint is available
commercially,what is to prevent the hobbiest from going to his local
paint store and buying some?Armand Premo

What store? This ain't Sherwin Williams! By commercial Jerry meant that
the paint is ONLY available to other businesses, not private
individuals... unless you buy your model paint in 50 gallon drums?

Regards
Bruce

Bruce Smith
Auburn AL





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Western Railway of Albama BOX Cars in 1950?

matt
 

Hi,

Can anyone help me and tell me what type of box cars the Western
Railway of Alabama were using in 1950?

thanks for your time

MATT Strickland


sawtooth car variations was Re: Soo Line SS Boxcar

jerryglow2
 

Anyone know if there's a possibility he'll produce it as MP (actually
IGN & StLB&M) versions since he did a kitbash article in RMC years ago
to do these cars using the then available Storzak kit?

Jerry Glow


Re: N'ville Aftermath

jerryglow2
 

Another good reason for a web presence or some way of polling those
for their wants like Al Westerfield does.

Jerry Glow


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tony Thompson <thompsonmarytony@s...>
wrote:
Every year, Martin bemoans his inability to outguess the
crowd
as to what will be hot. This year was no exception. You can be quite
sure he would bring WAY more of the hot new items if he knew which
ones
they were.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@s...
Publishers of books on railroad history

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