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AAR Closed Car Loading Guide

Bob Chaparro
 

AAR Closed Car Loading Guide

This is a link to the 2014 version of this document:

https://aar.com/standards/DPLS-content/Closed%20Car%20Loading%20Standards/CCLG%20Part%208%20-%20Bagged%20Commodities%207-2014.pdf

Obviously the document is too recent for this group.

Does anyone have a source or link to a similar document that would be dated 1960 or earlier?

Thank you.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

Bob Chaparro
 

Super Glue Storage

Many of us are at an age where we have a forest of pill bottles in our medicine cabinets. And many of these bottles contain a desiccant silica gel packet or capsule.

I save these and place them in a freeze-quality baggie along with my ACC glues. This is a bit more convenient than keeping them in the freezer and works just as well in my experience.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: SR 1944 AAR Boxcar -- C&BT Upgrade

O Fenton Wells
 

Nice looking model, Whose ladders did you use?
Fenton

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:31 AM James E Kubanick <jekuban@...> wrote:
Bob,

Beautiful upgrade of that old kit. That turned out to be an outstanding model.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020, 7:23:28 AM EDT, gtws00 via groups.io <gtws00=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


That turned out very nice. Those new detail parts are a great improvement 
Thanks for sharing
George Toman



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Re: Model Railroad 10 Year Archive 201-2019

Don DeLay
 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 08:12 AM, Bill J. wrote:
Talk about useless ...
The magazine or the DVD, lol!


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I have used the Locktite glues (it does come in several viscosities, including gel) for as many years as it’s been available.  But I also randomly buy other versions of superglue to try them out.  About two months ago I opened one of them that had, first of all been on my other desk for at least two years,  It’s the one in the photo, four 0.01 oz tubes, and not only was it still good (some superglue goes bad before I open them to begin with), it has remained, open on my desk sitting in a plastic drink cover for at least five weeks and STILL is good.  The spout has remained open (until this morning), but I reamed it out with a wire and it’s good to go.  As others have done, I tend to whack it down to clear the spout, but as often as not, I forget to do that. 

 

It is amazing how many joints 0.01 oz. will join.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 6:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] My superglue spouts stick to the caps

 

Hi Jim,

 

Jim wrote: “Has this happened to any one else?”

 

Hey Jim, welcome to the club!

 

Jim further wrote: “Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening again?”

 

I’m sure you will get a variety of answers to this question. My answer is, YES. The thing to do is to buy the small tubes instead of bottles. When you buy superglue in bottles several bad things happen – the tube gets stuck and becomes useless (as you experienced), the glue begins to thicken  with age, and after along enough time the glue ultimately solidifies inside the bottle.

 

The small tubes are VERY small, holding only a fractional ounce each. You open one, use it for a while, then throw it away when it is empty or when it is less than pristine. They are cheap, REAL CHEAP, sometime three tubes for a buck, so it’s not like you cannot afford to toss one that is less than wonderful. Since you throw them away often, they are never around long enough for the glue to thicken or solidify.

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

From: Jim Hayes

Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 6:02 PM

Subject: [RealSTMFC] My superglue spouts stick to the caps

 

I'm using 2 brands of superglue currently, Scotch and Bob Smith. When I tried to use them today, both of the spouts stuck to the caps. Even pliers wouldn't pull the spouts loose, so I was left with 2 bottles of open superglue with no caps -- useless.
Has this happened to any one else? Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening again?

JimH


Re: SR 1944 AAR Boxcar -- C&BT Upgrade

James E Kubanick
 

Bob,

Beautiful upgrade of that old kit. That turned out to be an outstanding model.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020, 7:23:28 AM EDT, gtws00 via groups.io <gtws00@...> wrote:


That turned out very nice. Those new detail parts are a great improvement 
Thanks for sharing
George Toman


Re: Model Railroad 10 Year Archive 201-2019

Bill J.
 

Talk about useless ...

Bill Jolitz


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

mel perry
 

has anyone given thought to the idea,
that this photo was taken before the
tie downs were completed?, be awful
difficult to have these prople standing
on the flat cars, with the apptopiate
tie downs installed, what ever they might
be?
mel perry


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Mark;

 

You bring up an issue I have not been able to find info on.  There are cases I have seen in which 3 flat cars were being used to transport a long load, with the outer cars bearing the load, and an idler between, but with what looks like an un-fixed support on the idler that looks like it might have acted as a slider in case )or in expectation that) the load sagged.

 

Folks;  What was the protocol with this?  Are there AAR guidelines for this?

 

Just wondering.

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mvlandsw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 10:58 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

 

There cannot be any blocking between the cradles that carry the load on the outer flatcars as the load must pivot on them.
Mark Vinski


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

Thomas Evans
 

I've used the various Zap varieties for years.
The caps never stick, but I sometimes have to ream out the spout - no big deal.

Tom E.


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

Stan Madyda
 

I also had a top break off the Loctite Ultra Liquid Control Glue.  I found that you can unscrew the remaining top from the base and salvage some of what's left.  It comes out in a puddle and the broken top serves as a new "cap."  Not sure how long this will hold up, but I did get several more uses out of the bottle.


Re: SR 1944 AAR Boxcar -- C&BT Upgrade

gtws00
 

That turned out very nice. Those new detail parts are a great improvement 
Thanks for sharing
George Toman


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

Jim Hayes
 

Thanks all for good ides and ideas I'd Forgotten .

JimH

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:10 PM Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 03:17 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
Todd wrote, I currently use Loctite Super Glue Ultra Liquid Control.  It comes in a squeeze bottle with a twist cap that never gets stuck, and I never have to clear the nozzle. 
Todd is using it well as I use the same Loctite Super Glue Ultra Control with the black cap and the ultra control Loctite gel with the blue cap.   I have had them get stuck and broken off several tops attempting to remove them with pliers.   It happens due to glue remaining at the top of the nozzle after putting the cap back on.  I started to touch the nozzle to a paper towel before putting on the cap or just leaving the bottle set fo a time before putting cap on and have not had it happen since.  On the gel I have to scrape the nozzle ever so often with a single edge razor to remove some dried glue. And, as Todd said never have had to clear the nozzle.

 On Zap which I also use I have had stuck caps and have to clear nozzle now and then.  Again, since touching nozzle to paper towel to remove any remaining glue no stuck caps.

Lester Breuer


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

Lester Breuer
 

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 03:17 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
Todd wrote, I currently use Loctite Super Glue Ultra Liquid Control.  It comes in a squeeze bottle with a twist cap that never gets stuck, and I never have to clear the nozzle. 
Todd is using it well as I use the same Loctite Super Glue Ultra Control with the black cap and the ultra control Loctite gel with the blue cap.   I have had them get stuck and broken off several tops attempting to remove them with pliers.   It happens due to glue remaining at the top of the nozzle after putting the cap back on.  I started to touch the nozzle to a paper towel before putting on the cap or just leaving the bottle set fo a time before putting cap on and have not had it happen since.  On the gel I have to scrape the nozzle ever so often with a single edge razor to remove some dried glue. And, as Todd said never have had to clear the nozzle.

 On Zap which I also use I have had stuck caps and have to clear nozzle now and then.  Again, since touching nozzle to paper towel to remove any remaining glue no stuck caps.

Lester Breuer


Re: You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

Mark Vinski
 

There cannot be any blocking between the cradles that carry the load on the outer flatcars as the load must pivot on them.
Mark Vinski


Re: Still have one resin kit for sale

Tim O'Connor
 


Nothing about the whole process has ever seemed to turn out as expected - one sharp turn
after another. Like the space - not what they said it would be, but is now possibly better?
We should not speculate here. I hope John N. will be ok. I used to operate on the layout
and every year it just got better and better - and more fun! The last op session was just
over a year ago, Feb 2019.

Tim O'



On 5/5/2020 1:49 PM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io wrote:

John was definitely the driving force.  I think somehow he managed to PO someone higher in the school’s management.  “Shortsighted” barely covers the stupidity.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Doggett via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 1:39 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Still have one resin kit for sale

 

As I understand it John Nehrich was very much the driving force behind the layout it’s seems shortsighted to sack him but until we know the circumstances there’s not a lot that can be said.

 

Paul Doggett.   England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 



On 5 May 2020, at 18:12, Jeff Coleman <traininsp@...> wrote:



Things not looking all that good for the new NEB&W.

RPI is renting the new space but since they fired John Nehrich there is no one to lead the way. John isn't allowed in new location or have any contact with the layout. 

 

Jeff Coleman

 

 

On Tue, May 5, 2020, 11:29 AM Scott Kremer <skremer@...> wrote:

They have a beautiful space, much larger than before.  They just announced that the move is complete.  They expect that this move and location will be of great benefit.

Scott Kremer





--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

lsittler
 

I highly recommend putting all superglues, when not in use, in the refrigerator. Not only do they last indefinitely when chilled, but I no longer have problems with the nozzles sticking, etc. Les
 

From: Ray Hutchison
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 7:23 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] My superglue spouts stick to the caps
 
Mercury Adhesives M300M
Plastic bottle/spout/cap has needle that keeps the spout clear
 
On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 5:18 PM Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...> wrote:
Hi Jim,
 
Jim wrote: “Has this happened to any one else?”
 
Hey Jim, welcome to the club!
 
Jim further wrote: “Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening again?”
 
I’m sure you will get a variety of answers to this question. My answer is, YES. The thing to do is to buy the small tubes instead of bottles. When you buy superglue in bottles several bad things happen – the tube gets stuck and becomes useless (as you experienced), the glue begins to thicken  with age, and after along enough time the glue ultimately solidifies inside the bottle.
 
The small tubes are VERY small, holding only a fractional ounce each. You open one, use it for a while, then throw it away when it is empty or when it is less than pristine. They are cheap, REAL CHEAP, sometime three tubes for a buck, so it’s not like you cannot afford to toss one that is less than wonderful. Since you throw them away often, they are never around long enough for the glue to thicken or solidify.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
From: Jim Hayes
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 6:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] My superglue spouts stick to the caps
 
I'm using 2 brands of superglue currently, Scotch and Bob Smith. When I tried to use them today, both of the spouts stuck to the caps. Even pliers wouldn't pull the spouts loose, so I was left with 2 bottles of open superglue with no caps -- useless.
Has this happened to any one else? Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening again?

JimH

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Re: SR 1944 AAR Boxcar -- C&BT Upgrade

Allen Cain
 

Bob, Very nicely done!

I have one of those CB&T kits and was planning on selling it, and may still, but now you have my imagination going!

Allen Cain


SR 1944 AAR Boxcar -- C&BT Upgrade

Bob Chapman
 

Last year's new year's resolution was to build the sizeable stash of unbuilt resin kits. I put on my best Clark Propst cape and got them done (the first time I have ever accomplished a NY resolution!). Unfortunately, I bought some more at Chicagoland 2019, so the treadmill continues.

With the resin kits gone, it was time to look into the DEEP STASH. There I found six undec C&BT 1944 AAR boxcar kits that I had bought in the 80s for cents on the dollar at a LHS clearance firesale. I know several on this list have been around long enough to remember C&BT -- among the first kits with separate details. The carbodies were very accurately executed with various door openings and end types, but the parts sprue was abysmal (photo). Thus the challenge for today was to replace all the C&BT parts with contemporary aftermarket parts. Having done this, the project took on the shape of a cast resin kit -- in time, cost, and modeling fun. 

While RPC never got around to doing an article on the 1944 AARs, there were still some good references. Richard Hendrickson did a late-80s series in MRing, followed by some articles a decade later in RMJ by Ed Hawkins -- both essentially photo features. More recently, Ed's spreadsheets on the 1944 AARs were invaluable in making correct choices for things like runningboards, handbrakes, etc. Thanks, Ed!

The SR car is first out, and pretty much parallels the Speedwitch kit for the car. The large locator holes for the C&BT parts were first filled with .025" styrene rod. Detail parts include Yarmouth Morton runningboard, Kadee ladders/grabs/brake wheel, and Tahoe Barber S-2's. I had hoped to use Speedwitch's 8-foot superior door, but it has been out of stock for a l-o-n-g time, so I made do by splicing a couple of 6-foot doors. Decals are Speedwitch's outstanding set. The car is lightly weathered with a bit of dust and highlighting; maybe it's imagination, but SR's steel cars always seemed a bit fresher than average.    

Back to the bench for the next one,
Bob Chapman


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

Andy Miller
 

Try building more models, faster so the glue will be used up before it can age 😉

 

BTW I use Loctite and it rarely clogs the cap – but I won’t say “never”.

Regards and stay safe,

Andy Miller

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Hayes
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:03 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] My superglue spouts stick to the caps

 

I'm using 2 brands of superglue currently, Scotch and Bob Smith. When I tried to use them today, both of the spouts stuck to the caps. Even pliers wouldn't pull the spouts loose, so I was left with 2 bottles of open superglue with no caps -- useless.
Has this happened to any one else? Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening again?

JimH

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