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Re: Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size

Charlie Vlk
 

Denny-
You wrote.....
Charlie Vlk comments that the MK5 Kadee model defines the market.
Understand that I am all for thinking "outside of the box:" and promoting
improved standards.
But manufacturers have to field product that meets the greater marketplace.
STMFC is an important, significant viewpoint and a factor to be considered,
but Kadee cars are
outsold by Athearn MDC by a signficant order or magnitude or more.... so
scale draft gear and
couplers have a lot of installed base and less-than-STMFC level material to
overcome in the
greater marketplace.
The jury is out if such scale coupler gear would be commercially viable on
Atlas/Walthers/Athearn
type equipment.
Charlie Vlk
Railroad Model Resources


Re: PRR N6B; was injection molding tooling costs in China

Gatwood, Elden <Elden.Gatwood@...>
 

Ed, Eric, and all;

Yes, the N6B has been made in various forms before. We hope that the
current Walthers model will be done with the same care that the research
was done, as the result would be better than anything done to-date.

Yes, the manufacturers continue to make money, and continue asking for
advice on equipment to make; however, the decision to pursue individual
projects is up to their marketing folks.

There doesn't seem to be any shortage of interest in cars from the PRR,
and most other roads, for that matter. It may just be a case of the PRR
being a large railroad with perhaps some presence on most everybody
else's rails, and nowadays with a very large following. Therefore, this
cabin car will likely sell well.

No, tooling costs and pattern-making are not low cost. Several
manufacturers spoke to me yesterday about this very subject. The choice
of projects is a very difficult one. No one wants to risk a bomb, so
much up-front time and energy is spent trying to pick a winner.

Lastly, those lettering illustrations shown do not match anything
exactly. I am sure that many would prefer that manufacturers show
photos of either the finished product, or a nice prototype.
Unfortunately, this is not done all the time, and indeed may result in
buyers being turned-off to individual projects before they happen. I
have jumped that gun myself, and later regretted it.

Ben is correct that the end result may be far different from this bit of
advertising fluff. Several people with the PRRT&HS would not have
devoted so much of their time if the expected a hack job; and you all
like the new PRR baggage car, right? Let's wait and see what they do
with the car.

Elden Gatwood

P.S. So, what are the real reasons no one is doing the alternate
standard offset twin hopper?

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ed_mines
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:42 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] injection molding tooling costs in China

Walthers is going out with another caboose?

Wasn't the same Pennsy caboose available from one of the toy train
manufacturers? And QualityCraft? And in brass?

I would think that everyone who really wants prototype cabooses
already has them in brass, or from Q'Craft or AMB and this would
limit sales. Apparently Walthers is making money.

Are injection tooling costs less now then they were before because
the work is done overseas?

There are other car kits that I would expect to have limited
interest to the general modeling population - like the Pennsy
express reefer and troup sleepers. There is no shortage of choices
either.

Or are a lot of the NMRA type guys collectors?

If tooling costs are low maybe someone from this group could have a
kit made for cars we want (like chemical tank cars).

Ed









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Re: Athearn PS-2 3 bay hopper

bierglaeser <bierglaeser@...>
 

Is the Athearn car supposed to represent the earliest 3-bay covered
hopper with 3219 (or thereabouts) cubic feet? If it is then I need
to start lobbying for a version in the M&StL post-1956 billboard
paint scheme.

If moving the hatches on the Athearn car is anything like moving the
hatches on the MDC car, then it isn't hard to do. A 1/4 inch hole
with a short piece of 1/4" styrene tube provided the new location
and 'flange.' A 1/4" circle of styrene punched out with a paper
punch plugged the old hole. Squadron putty and a little sanding
finished the job.

Gene Green

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Montford Switzer" <ZOE@I...> wrote:

Mike:

For the unlucky ones among us the hatches and covers can be moved.
This
usually involves fitting the old lids on lips around new openings
(you
don't really have to have a hole there unless you want to open
them).
Filling the old holes, assuming there are any is the hard part.
But the
Athearn model looks like it is worth the effort.

Any chance they will do two roofs?

Mont Switzer

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
Mike Brock
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:20 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Athearn PS-2 3 bay hopper

From perusing through the nice article on the PS-2 2893 cu.ft. 3 bay
hopper
in the Sep RMJ by Ed Hawkins, I'm led to the conclusion that the
Athearn
car
could apply to a rather large number of prototypes IF the car's
intermediate
positioned hatches did not come attached to the car....as I assume
they
are.
In fact, I would be stunned if they were not attached...probably
less
shocked if the sun went out tomorrow. From what I see in Ed's
article,
the
hatch placement by Athearn seems to eliminate quite a few cars. In
the
vast
majority of cases, it looks like the position of the "intermediate"
hatch
[ located between the center hatch and the end hatch ] is the one
which
varies the most. It would be possible, of course, to move the 4
internediate
hatches, carefully cutting them from the car's roof. Hmmm, it will
be
interesting to see how the hatch is attached.

Mike Brock





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Re: 1949 NKP Car Movements

Andy Sperandeo <asperandeo@...>
 

Only two Santa Fe boxcars in the latest batch from Bill:

ATSF 146177, a Bx37 carrying bulk meal (with 12 grain doors!). This is one of the last batch of this large class, built in 1942. It's represented in HO by a Sunshine kit, and can also be modeled with modifications to the Red Caboose modified 1937 AAR standard boxcar. (I've also got one I built from a Westrail kit, if anyone besides Richard H remembers those.) Many of this class had National B-1 trucks, but this particular car had ASF spring-plankless trucks.

ATSF 270725, a Bx42 carrying bean meal. This is a 1944 graduate of the Santa Fe's program of rebuilding Bx9 and 10 1925 ARA standard double-sheathed boxcars into all-steel cars similar to the modified 1937 AAR standard. It's also represented in HO by a Sunshine kit.

So long,

Andy





Andy Sperandeo
Executive Editor
Model Railroader magazine
asperandeo@mrmag.com
Phone: 262-796-8776, ex. 461
Fax: 262-796-1142
www.modelrailroader.com

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From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com on behalf of william darnaby
Reply To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2005 9:07 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] 1949 NKP Car Movements

More outbound car movements from the Swift & Co soy bean processing facility in Frankfort, Ind.

DATE CAR LOAD ROUTING

1-21-49 GATX 7772 bean oil VAN IS

UTLX 8999 XT NKP Madison IL

NYC 134893 bean meal A K Zinn, Battle Creek, NKP/Mich Cty-MC
xColfax, In
B&O 277286 bean meal CIL-Pinola, IN CIL-NYC
xSheridan
NKP 15329 bean meal Allied Mills Inc, Fort Wayne, NKP
xJefferson, In
NKP 6321 bean meal Goodrich Bros, Winchester, IN NKP/Portland-PRR
xCrawfordsville, In
NKP 6070 bean meal No Bill, goes to Gen Mills, Toledo

1-25-49 NKP 27898 bulk meal General Mills, Toledo, NKP
xNoblesville,In
GATX 24241 bean oil Proctor & Gamble, Ivorydale, OH, NKP/Indpls-NYC

W&LE 25761 bean meal Foster Canning, Glendale LI NY, NKP-Erie-LI
xKempton
NKP 8161 bean meal Allied Mills Inc, Fort Wayne, NKP
xJefferson
NKP 20105 bean meal Goodrich Bros, Winchester, IN NKP/Portland-PRR
xCherry Grove, In
1-26-49 NKP 17387 bean meal VAN

GATX 10400 bean oil Proctor & Gamble, Ivorydale, OH, NKP/Indpls-NYC

GATX 25091 XT Swift & Co, Fostoria, OH NKP

GATX 55836 XT Swift & Co, Fostoria, OH NKP

GATX 15179 XT Swift & Co, Fostoria, OH NKP

1-28-49 NP 17433 bean meal Urbana Mills, Urbana OH NKP/Muncie-NYC
local tonnage
NKP 17233 bean meal Lafayette Co-op, Lafayette, In NKP
xVermont+Elwood, IN
CB&Q 37723 bean meal General Mills, Toledo, OH NKP-TT
xJefferson, In
CB&Q 26046 bulk meal A K Zinn, Battle Creek, NKP/Mich Cty-MC
xEarl Park, In
KCS 18069 bean meal Goodrich Bros, Winchester, IN NKP/Portland-PRR
xCherry Grove+Bambridge, In
PRR 573904 bean meal Allied Mills Inc, Fort Wayne, NKP
xJefferson
PRR 517945 bean meal Allied Mills Inc, Fort Wayne, NKP
xJefferson
2-1-49 GATX 20477 bean oil Proctor & Gamble, Ivorydale, OH, NKP/Indpls-NYC>

GATX 4332 bean oil Proctor & Gamble, Ivorydale, OH, NKP/Indpls-NYC

P&LE 36389 bean meal Allied Mills Inc, Fort Wayne, NKP
xJefferson
SOU 20476 bulk meal General Mills, Toledo, OH NKP-TT
xJefferson+Kirkpatrick
ATSF 146177 bulk meal VAN IS
(12 grain doors)
2-2-49 MKT 95754 bean meal CIL-Harper Elevator, North Branch, MI CIL-GT
xSheridan
NKP 16264 bean meal Allied Mills Inc, Fort Wayne, NKP
xKirkpatrick, In
IC 31979 bulk meal General Mills, Toledo, OH NKP-TT
xKirkpatrick
GATX 26384 bean oil Proctor & Gamble, Ivorydale, OH, NKP/Indpls-NYC

GATX 15631 bean oil Proctor & Gamble, Ivorydale, OH, NKP/Indpls-NYC

2-3-49 AESX 111 bean oil Not billed

ATX 1771 bean oil Not billed

RI 26256 bean meal Not billed

CI&M 8015 bean meal CIL-Garten Feed Co, Indianapolis CIL-IC dely
Ockley, In
NYC 132417 bean meal VAN IS

WAB 82217 bean meal VAN IS

NYC 131952 bean meal Urbana Mills, Urbana OH NKP/Muncie-NYC
xTab, In
2-4-49 AESX 116 bean oil Lever Bros, Edgewater, NJ NKP/bflo-ERIE-NYSW

AESX 111 bean oil Lever Bros, Edgewater, NJ NKP/bflo-ERIE-NYSW

NATX 1771 bean oil Lever Bros, Edgewater, NJ NKP/bflo-ERIE-NYSW

WP 14363 bulk meal Martins Feed Mills, New Paris, In NKP/Marion-B4

SOU 20307 bean meal Marion Co Farm Bureau, Cumberland, In NKP/Indpls-PRR
xKirkpatrick
WAB 82429 bean meal A K Zinn, Battle Creek, NKP/Mich Cty-MC
xEarl Park
NP 26144 bean meal E W Baily Co, Montpelier VT NKP-DTSL-GTW-CN-CV
xScircleville, In
3-9-49 SHPX 22407 bean oil CIL-Lever Bros, Hammond, In CIL-IHB

SHPX 7699 bean oil CIL-Lever Bros, Hammond, In CIL-IHB

MP 34485 bulk meal General Mills, Toledo, OH NKP-TT
xWingate, In
N&W 41495 bulk meal Cunningham Gr Co, Oak Grove, MA NKP/Buf-DLW-DH-BM
xMiddletons,In
NKP 15276 bulk meal Beacon Milling Co, Cauyuga, NY NKP/Buf-NYC
xForest, In
ATSF 270725 bean meal St Albans Gr Co, St Albans, VT NKP/Tol-DTSL-GT-CN-CV
xMiddletons
3-15-49 SHPX 7530 bean oil CIL-Lever Bros, Hammond, In CIL-IHB

GATX 12672 bean oil Swift & Co, Atlanta, GA NKP/Muncie-C&O-SOU

WAB 88772 bean meal Urbana Mills, Urbana OH NKP/Muncie-NYC
Tab, In
NKP13286 bean meal St Albans Gr Co, St Albans, VT NKP/Tol-DTSL-GT-CN-CV
xMiddletons+Forest
CB&Q 36285 bean meal Master Feed & Seed Co, Louisville NKP/Linden-CIL-L&N dely
xElwood
NKP 26018 bulk meal Glidden Co, Indianapolis, NKP
local tonnage
C&O 9459 bean meal Strykers Farmers Exchg, Strykers, OH NKP/Tol-NYC
xTab, In

Bill Darnaby>







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Re: Scale Coupler Application

bierglaeser <bierglaeser@...>
 

Oh, OK. That gap doesn't look good. I can see why it would be an
issue. Thank you.

What about spacing between cars with Kadee #78 or the AP coupler?
Prototypical? Too much?

Gene

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Brian J Carlson" <brian@b...> wrote:

Gene the initial issues of the Kadee 58 and 78 couplers had a gap
between
the knuckle and the rest of the coupler head. Made them look
strange. I have
a bunch of cars that have gaps, but I still like the size compared
to the 5.
The links below show both the gap and non-gap couplers.

Gap
http://www.kadee.com/ca/40ps1/4037l.htm
No gap
http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page351.htm

Brian J Carlson P.E.
Cheektowaga NY


injection molding tooling costs in China

ed_mines
 

Walthers is going out with another caboose?

Wasn't the same Pennsy caboose available from one of the toy train
manufacturers? And QualityCraft? And in brass?

I would think that everyone who really wants prototype cabooses
already has them in brass, or from Q'Craft or AMB and this would
limit sales. Apparently Walthers is making money.

Are injection tooling costs less now then they were before because
the work is done overseas?

There are other car kits that I would expect to have limited
interest to the general modeling population - like the Pennsy
express reefer and troup sleepers. There is no shortage of choices
either.

Or are a lot of the NMRA type guys collectors?

If tooling costs are low maybe someone from this group could have a
kit made for cars we want (like chemical tank cars).

Ed


Athearn PS-2

Montford Switzer <ZOE@...>
 

My contact at Athearn just old me there will only be ONE ROOFas per the
photo in RMJ. The unlucky ones (possibly me) will be moving some roof
hatches. This is still much easier than dealing with the AHM PS-2's of
30 years ago!



Mont Switzer


Re: Athearn PS-2 3 bay hopper

Montford Switzer <ZOE@...>
 

Mike:

For the unlucky ones among us the hatches and covers can be moved. This
usually involves fitting the old lids on lips around new openings (you
don't really have to have a hole there unless you want to open them).
Filling the old holes, assuming there are any is the hard part. But the
Athearn model looks like it is worth the effort.

Any chance they will do two roofs?

Mont Switzer

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Brock
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:20 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Athearn PS-2 3 bay hopper

From perusing through the nice article on the PS-2 2893 cu.ft. 3 bay
hopper
in the Sep RMJ by Ed Hawkins, I'm led to the conclusion that the Athearn
car
could apply to a rather large number of prototypes IF the car's
intermediate
positioned hatches did not come attached to the car....as I assume they
are.
In fact, I would be stunned if they were not attached...probably less
shocked if the sun went out tomorrow. From what I see in Ed's article,
the
hatch placement by Athearn seems to eliminate quite a few cars. In the
vast
majority of cases, it looks like the position of the "intermediate"
hatch
[ located between the center hatch and the end hatch ] is the one which
varies the most. It would be possible, of course, to move the 4
internediate
hatches, carefully cutting them from the car's roof. Hmmm, it will be
interesting to see how the hatch is attached.

Mike Brock





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Re: RP CYC 12

Tim O'Connor
 

Andy Carlson wrote:
My geography must be bad, for I thought it was....
Bakersfield!
No argument!! Every state, of course, will have its own
favorite for this saying <g>.
Tony Thompson

In Massachusetts you end up in Athol.


Re: Athearn PS-2 3 bay hopper

raildata@...
 

Gene,

The Athearn 3 bay PS-2 is a model of the 2893 cu. ft. car.

Chuck Yungkurth
Boulder CO


Re: RP CYC 12

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Andy Carlson wrote:
My geography must be bad, for I thought it was....
Bakersfield!
No argument!! Every state, of course, will have its own favorite for this saying <g>.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


ADMIN: Order in the Court....again

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Ah...it's nice to be back in chambers. As Head Judge I'll just don my robes...you know...the one with the stripes on the sleves...only mine have 4. There.

Hmmm. There were a few messages while I was gone. Looks like about 83 on couplers and about 71 on the RPCyc. How the heck can there be that many messages on couplers after everything known to man about them was written before I left town? Sigh. Hmmm...must be some interesting stuff in the RPCyc for all the messages. Now...where'd I put that beer? Oh yes. Ok...lesseee now.

Geeez. We're writing messages about the business practices of the RPCyc guys? Where's my gavel? Bonk! Bonk! Bonk! Order in the Court. We don't discuss the business practices of manufacturers...be they makers of resin cars or books.

83 or so messages on couplers. And I thought sitting through an NMRA Business Meeting was bad. Hmmm. Now there's a thought. Rather than Moderate Jail....

Mike Brock
STMFC Owner


Re: Sergent Couplers

Jared Harper <harper-brown@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Rob Kirkham <rdkirkham@s...> wrote:

Correction - missing a crucial "out" - should read "it seems to me
that once
the magnet is held
close enough to raise the internal ball lock, a little loco power
in
reverse
would uncouple the cars without the modeller actually touching them"
Rob
You're not missing anything.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Reboxx Replacement Wheelsets for Broadway N&W Hoppers

golden1014
 

Tom, All,

Thanks much for following up on the Reboxx wheelsets.
As I mentioned to you off-line, John Burr at Reboxx
contacted me and asked if I'd send him some of the
Broadway trucks so he could do some accurate roll
testing. He seemed like quite the gentleman, so I
happy to help. Hopefully he'll have the answer for
everyone at PMS.

FYI, I'm sold on the Reboxx wheelsets as replacements
for all my rolling stock. The prorotypical appearance
of the code 88 wheelsets is very nice and they operate
very reliably on good HO track. Plus, the different
axle lengths--which allow you to get the right axle
length for different brands of trucks--eliminates most
unwanted sideways motion.

The problem is that Reboox wheelsets are pretty darn
expensive, so my replacement program for 125 cars is
proceeding rather slowly! The best price I've found is
through mail order at MB Klein, which has them for
something like $7.99/12 wheelsets.

See y'all at Naperville!

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL

____________

Message: 6
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 01:48:56 -0400
From: "Thomas M. Olsen" <tmolsen@UDel.Edu>
Subject: Re: Reboxx Replacement Wheelsets for Broadway
N&W Hoppers

Bryan, John and List members,

Saturday afternoon I attended the Great Scale Train
Show at Timonium
Maryland. While there, I was able to speak with the
folks at Reboxx.
Here are some answers that touch on the axle data for
BLI N&W H2a
Hoppers and J.P.'s new coupler.

1st the coupler:

When I broached the coupler issue with J.P., he said
that there had
not
been a problem in getting anything produced in China,
but that the
reason he has not pursued it recently had to do with
the very severe
illness that he had last fall and spring. This
coupled (no pun
intended!) with a large back log of other business has
pushed the
coupler to the back burner. We must remember that
trains is not his
primary business, but a part of what he does. He
intends to return to
the coupler issue soon.

He has been following the Sergent coupler thread that
has been going on
on this list. His take on these couplers is that they
look very good
compared to the competition, but the ability to
uncouple them at a
distance and the fact that unlike the tried and true
Kadee's, they do
not center. Also,the requirement that someone has to
open the knuckle
if found to be closed. He also thought that the Kadee
has the edge
because the knuckles need not be open when making the
coupling which is
of great value when making up trains and switching.
His contention was
that there really is no substitute from an operational
aspect, there is
no substitute for the present Kadee couplers unless
these issues could
be solved to the point where reliability was not an
issue.


In regard to the Reboxx wheel sets for Broadway N&W
hoppers:

I spoke with John and gave him one of the trucks from
one of the N&W
hoppers from home. He first tested the as-is truck on
the roll incline
tester to see how well they operated. He said that
they rolled quite
well considering they were stock items. Then he
popped the wheel set
out and measured it to see what the axle length was.
After doing so,
his conclusion was that the WS10975 wheel set with an
axle length of
24.77mm was the most likely candidate to replace the
BLI wheel sets.
He
felt that the BLI truck would not stand up well to the
little coring
tool and to use one to clear the journal boxes, it may
cause the wheel
sets to be a bit sloppy. So, the upshot of this is
for now, you could
use the WS10975 wheel sets, but he would not recommend
wholesale
changes
right away, that a period of experimentation was
called for to
determine
that these is the most accurate axle length for these
trucks. The
WS10975 wheel sets come packaged 12 wheel sets to the
package.

Regards,

Tom Olsen
7 Boundary Road, West Branch
Newark, Delaware, 19711-7479

John Golden wrote:

Guys,

Does anyone know the appropriate axle length for
Reboxx replacement wheelsets for the 70 ton trucks on
Broadway N&W hoppers? If so, please drop me a line at
Golden1014@yahoo.com. I've got nine cars that are
scheduled for new wheelsets and I want to make sure I
get the right ones. Thanks!

John


John Golden
O'Fallon, IL
http://www.pbase.com/golden1014

John Golden
O'Fallon, IL
http://www.pbase.com/golden1014


Re: RP CYC 12

Andy Carlson
 

My geography must be bad, for I thought it was....
Bakersfield!

--- Anthony Thompson <thompson@signaturepress.com>
wrote:

In California the saying is, "life is tough
and then you go to
Fresno."


Re: RP CYC 12

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Bob Webber wrote:
Spoken from the UP management booklet on how to treat loyal
customers. Screw 'em, life's tough then you die. Well put.
In California the saying is, "life is tough and then you go to Fresno."

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Branchline 50' Steel Express Reefers at cost

Andy Carlson
 

I have Branchline UNDEC REA Express Steel Reefers I
wish to close out at cost. $15.00 ea. MSRP of $24.98


Shipping is $3.85 for first car, add another $1.00 for
each additional car.
contact me off-list at <midcentury@sbcglobal.net>
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson


Re: The Dispatcher Knows (was: SP Freight Train Numbers . . . )

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Andy Sperandeo wrote:
I don't know how UP or SP dispatchers did it, but Santa Fe dispatchers' train sheets from the 1940s have a row across the top for train symbols . . .
SP train sheets had the same.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
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Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Drains On Refrigerator Cars

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Jeff Aley wrote:
Why would one WANT to close the drains on a reefer? To keep out
vermin, perhaps?
On meat reefers, some cars complied with the recommended practice to retain the very salty melt water on board rather than dump it on the trucks, rails and bridges.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
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Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size

Anthony Thompson <thompson@...>
 

Andy Sperandeo wrote:
If the NMRA had the slightest influence on any of this, it's that the Athearn coupler box was meant to hold an X2f-style horn-hook coupler. And while that coupler was designed by an NMRA committee, and quickly picked up by manufacturers anxious to have a compatible coupler . . .
I think they just wanted a cheap coupler that was molded in one piece and that made kind of an off-hand gesture toward automatic coupling.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history

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