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Re: USRA panel side hoppers in the late 50's

Brett Whelan
 

Ben,

Thank you very much, due to all the re-numbering of
these cars it was very difficult for me to follow them
through the ORER's

I own you a Beer or two if you ever make it down here.

Thanks again,

Brett Whelan
Australia.


Message: 7
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:45:39 -0000
From: "benjaminfrank_hom" <b.hom@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: USRA panel side hoppers in the late 50's

Brett Whelan asked:
"I'm modeling 1958 and would like to model a USRA
panel side hopper.
I haven't been able find any photographic evidence
that any USRA
(30' 6" inside length) panel side cars existed this
late."

Tim O'Connor wrote:
"Try looking at SLSF, Rock Island, Wabash, Ann Arbor,
NYC... I know
there were non-panel side USRA rebuilds in the 60's
but I'm not sure
of the panel side cars."

Wabash/Ann Arbor: Chet French covered the Wabash cars.
The Ann
Arbor panel side cars, AA 30700-30724 were actually
the 33 ft IL
panel side cars built new for the Wabash, accurately
modeled in HO
using Stan Rydarowicz's conversion kit using a laser
cut Athearn
carbody with resin blister panels. You can also use
the Pikestuff
panels in a pinch, but they're not 100% accurate.

SL-SF: SL-SF 88000-89499 (originally 86000-89499), 803
cars
remaining in January 1959. Photo and diagram are from
the pay side
of the RPI website:
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/rolling-stock/Hoppers/Twins/HM-panel-
Frisco.jpg
http://railroad.union.rpi.edu/rolling-stock/Hoppers/Twins/HM-panel-
SLSF-diagram.jpg

RI: RI 89895-89999, ex-SL-SF panel side rebuilds
leased from US
Railway Equipment Co. in 1956, 104 cars remaining in
January 1959.
Photo in November 1988 issue of Model RailroadING.

NYCS: NYC 850100-850167, Lot 640-H, rebuilt 1936.
Terry Link's
website indicates cars lasted until 1958; no cars in
January 1959
ORER.
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/nyc-850126.jpg

NYC 850300-850399, Lot 645-H, rebuilt 1936, 34 cars
remaining in
January 1959.

P&LE 37000-38418, Lot 651-H, rebuilt 1937, 1024 cars
remaining in
January 1959.
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/p&le-37314.jpg
Some cars rebuilt a second time without panel sides
during the 1950s:
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/images/p&le-37578.jpg

Thanks to Terry Link for sharing the NYCS information
on his website!
http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/NYC-MODELS-FREIGHT.htm

MP: MP 58000-58749 (common series with non-rebuilt
cars),
USRA "clones", 117 panel side cars remaining in
January 1959.

Retired by 1958: C&O, NYC 850210-850299 (Lot 641-H),
NYC 850400-
850599 (Lot 646-H), NYC 850600-851180 (Lot 653-H), NYC
851200-851299
(Lot 655-H), P&LE 38500-39499 (Lot 665-H), NYC
850180-850189 (Lot
674-H), NH, WAB.

[The above information covers only USRA twins and
"clones". It DOES
NOT cover pre-WWI 30 ft IL cars rebuilt with panel
sides by CN, CV,
NYC, or PRR.]


Ben Hom





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Re: 8.000/10.000 gallon tank car trucks [Proto 2000].

Arnold van Heyst
 

Who will manufacture the new Dalman trucks?

Arnold.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Richard Hendrickson <rhendrickson@o...>
wrote:

On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Arnold wrote:

Will the Eastern Car Works Inc Dalman trucks do it?
http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?
quick=dalman&quicksrch_butt.x=21&quicksrch_butt.y=9

What are they made of?
They're made of styrene, which is both less durable and less
"slippery"
as a bearing surface than the engineering plastics used in most HO
scale trucks. But they're all we have at present. As I mentioned
in a
previous post, however, another manufacturer has much better Dalman
two
level trucks under development – I've seen incomplete sample moldings,
so we're not talking vaporware here – and I'd be inclined to wait
until
these become available later this year.

Richard Hendrickson




Re: 8.000/10.000 gallon tank car trucks [Proto 2000].

Richard Hendrickson
 

On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Arnold wrote:

Will the Eastern Car Works Inc Dalman trucks do it?
http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?
quick=dalman&quicksrch_butt.x=21&quicksrch_butt.y=9

What are they made of?
They're made of styrene, which is both less durable and less "slippery"
as a bearing surface than the engineering plastics used in most HO
scale trucks. But they're all we have at present. As I mentioned in a
previous post, however, another manufacturer has much better Dalman two
level trucks under development I've seen incomplete sample moldings,
so we're not talking vaporware here and I'd be inclined to wait until
these become available later this year.

Richard Hendrickson


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Re: Youngstown Doors (also Superior Doors)

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Jan 20, 2006, at 1:42 PM, Gene Green wrote:

Andy,
For those of us without access to a hobby shop will you or someone else
post scans of the various doors somewhere so we can see which is
which? You mentioned you will sell them mail order. Any prices yet?
The list is at the link below. These are EXQUISITELY detailed parts. You will love them. There are others in the works, too.

http://www.steamfreightcars.com/modeling/parts/partsmain.html

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
645 Tanner Marsh Road, Guilford, CT 06437
info@speedwitch.com
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: Youngstown Doors (also Superior Doors)

Gene Green <bierglaeser@...>
 

Andy,
For those of us without access to a hobby shop will you or someone else
post scans of the various doors somewhere so we can see which is
which? You mentioned you will sell them mail order. Any prices yet?
Gene Green


Re: Dalman trucks and Proto 2000 tank cars

Tim O'Connor
 

Arnold

ECW trucks are ordinary styrene. You have to fool around with Reboxx
wheelsets to find the correct axle length for them. Paint/weather them
first, including the wheels, because once assembled you cannot pry them
open to remove the wheels without damaging the assembly. I use Tenax
cement to get them square and then apply 2-part epoxy for durability. I
think the Dalmans are their best looking truck, although the National
Type B isn't bad. But it's no longer needed since Proto2000 did those.

Whether they are correct for any Type 21 tank car is another question.
You must ascertain this for yourself from photos etc. No one can answer
a question like "Is this truck correct for this type of car" without doing a
lot of research on your behalf. I can tell you for certain they were not
used on ALL Type 21's but they may have been used on SOME.

Tim O'Connor

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Arnold" <mrdata1968@yahoo.com>
Will the Eastern Car Works Inc Dalman trucks do it?
http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?quick=dalman&quicksrch_butt.x=21&quicksrch_b
utt.y=9

What are they made of?
Arnold van Heyst.


Re: Youngstown Doors (also Superior Doors)

Tim O'Connor
 

Pat, here is the link to a September 1999 message I posted on Dan Hall's
Superior doors. If the link does not work, go to the Freightcars list search
page and search for subject = "Superior doors". Actually do that anyway
since it will show other relevant messages too.

http://sunny16.photo.tntech.edu/~richard/Freightcars/archive/displaypost.php3?tableID=FC_20060120_de18dcbfd8adfcff&id=1999090070

Here is the search page

http://sunny16.photo.tntech.edu/~richard/Freightcars/archive/search.php3

Tim O'Connor

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Patrick Wider" <pwider@sbcglobal.net>
Andy - how does one purchase the Superior doors that Dan has on the market?? Do
you have a phone number or address for him? Does he have a website? Variations?
Prices? Thanks.
Pat Wider


Re: Youngstown Doors (also Superior Doors)

Andy Carlson
 

Dan does not wish to sell direct, he would rather you
go to a hobby store like Desplaines Hobbies, Whistle
Stop, and other large MRR retailers. I believe
Desplaines will send items via mail purchases. Ron had
the Superior doors in stock when I visited there
during Naperville. I will be selling all of these
doors when I get them, and nearly 100% of my sales
will be through the mail. Dan Hall has no web site. I
will post answers to your other questions when I
receive all of the doors.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

--- Patrick Wider <pwider@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Andy - how does one purchase the Superior doors that
Dan has on the market?? Do you
have a phone number or address for him? Does he
have a website? Variations? Prices?
Thanks.

Pat Wider

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Andy Carlson
<midcentury@s...> wrote:

Dan Hall has purchased another production machine,
and
had hoped to have run the doors before
Christmas-obviously he missed that projection. I
have
talked to him and they should be here within 30
days.
I will post to this list when I have received
these
doors. I am getting 2 versions of Improved
youngstown
doors, the "Overnight" SP Interim improved
Youngstown;
and all of the Superior doors Dan has already on
the
market.
-Andy Carlson







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Re: 8.000/10.000 gallon tank car trucks [Proto 2000].

Arnold van Heyst
 

Will the Eastern Car Works Inc Dalman trucks do it?
http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?quick=dalman&quicksrch_butt.x=21&quicksrch_butt.y=9

What are they made of?

Arnold van Heyst.


8.000/10.000 gallon tank car placards [Proto 2000].

Arnold van Heyst
 

And as for the placards,
on the proto cars the placards are on the corner at a fixed place.
But on the photo's you can see they where also near the ladder on the left or right.
Was this random?
Are the carnumbers know which had that?

With kind regards,
Arnold van heyst
Netherlands.



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Re: Youngstown Doors (also Superior Doors)

Patrick Wider <pwider@...>
 

Andy - how does one purchase the Superior doors that Dan has on the market?? Do you
have a phone number or address for him? Does he have a website? Variations? Prices?
Thanks.

Pat Wider

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Andy Carlson <midcentury@s...> wrote:

Dan Hall has purchased another production machine, and
had hoped to have run the doors before
Christmas-obviously he missed that projection. I have
talked to him and they should be here within 30 days.
I will post to this list when I have received these
doors. I am getting 2 versions of Improved youngstown
doors, the "Overnight" SP Interim improved Youngstown;
and all of the Superior doors Dan has already on the
market.
-Andy Carlson


Superior-style doors on M-26 class boxcars (was B&O 269284)

Robert Daniels
 

To put the question another way, if I am modeling
1951, is it possible that my M-26A would already have
a Superior-style replacement door, or did such
replacements begin later?

Thanks again.

Rob Daniels
New York, NY

--- Rob Daniels <shalizadad@yahoo.com> wrote:

I have a photo of B&O 269284, an M-26A, dating to
the early 60's. In the photo the car has what
appears to be a replacement door of Superior type
with six panels. Does anyone know approximately when
the original Creco doors on M-26A's were replaced
with this type?

Thanks.

Rob Daniels
New York, NY


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Re: Unicel cars

Denny Anspach <danspach@...>
 

One of the STMFC listers reported that two of the Unicel cars were purchased by ACL , painted, lettered, and apparently used as revenue cars. I have not heard more about this, but would be very interested.

A close inspection of the limited published information on the Unicel cars (including a very close look at the recent Unicel drawings at the Chicago Art Institute) shows that two different demonstrator cars (or two versions of the same car photographed with alterations between) were definitely constructed (an insulated box car, and a mechanical refrigerator car), and a third one (ice reefer) may or may not have been constructed (probably the latter).

The heavy laminated wood construction of these cars was downright remarkable.

Denny
--
Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento


Thanks, re: Decals for SAL 40ft PS-1 boxcars

Mark Heiden
 

Hello everyone,

Thanks to all who have answered my question concerning SAL decals for
40ft PS-1 boxcars. Your advice and suggestions are greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark Heiden


SAL PS-1 roofwalks, was Re: Decals for SAL 40ft PS-1 boxcars

Mark Heiden
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, John Golden <golden1014@y...> wrote:

Don't forget that all the cars delivred in the first
three lots (24000-25499) were delivered with car
cement roofs.

John
Hi John,

Thanks for the advice on decals and the tip about the roofs covered
with car cement. That was something I didn't know. Do you know what
was done with the roofwalk? Was it too covered with car cement, or
painted, or left bare?

Thanks,
Mark Heiden


Re: Youngstown Doors

Ted Culotta <tculotta@...>
 

On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:18 AM, Andy Carlson wrote:

Dan Hall has purchased another production machine, and
had hoped to have run the doors before
Christmas-obviously he missed that projection. I have
talked to him and they should be here within 30 days.
I will post to this list when I have received these
doors. I am getting 2 versions of Improved youngstown
doors, the "Overnight" SP Interim improved Youngstown;
and all of the Superior doors Dan has already on the
market.
In reference to the SP B-50-25 decals I mentioned earlier today, those will be combined with Dan's doors and resin ends and details to create a minikit for the IM 12-panel 40' box car. I, too, am waiting for several hundred of Dan's doors. I have had the decals in hand since December waiting for other things, including Dan's doors, to all come together.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

Speedwitch Media
645 Tanner Marsh Road, Guilford, CT 06437
info@speedwitch.com
www.speedwitch.com
(650) 787-1912


Re: Youngstown Doors

Andy Carlson
 

Dan Hall has purchased another production machine, and
had hoped to have run the doors before
Christmas-obviously he missed that projection. I have
talked to him and they should be here within 30 days.
I will post to this list when I have received these
doors. I am getting 2 versions of Improved youngstown
doors, the "Overnight" SP Interim improved Youngstown;
and all of the Superior doors Dan has already on the
market.
-Andy Carlson

--- paulbizier <pa.bizier@verizon.net> wrote:

There have been past posts regarding upcoming
production of 5/5/4
Youngstown doors (in the "way back machine" they go
back to 2002). Is
there any updated info as to when these doors will
be available?

Paul Bizier






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Looking for someone

asychis@...
 

Anyone know an Allen Godfrey (not absolutely sure of the spelling) of
Lansing, Michigan? I need to contact him.

Jerry Michels


Re: High running board tank cars

David Lamson
 

-Thank you all for the information, much apprieciated!!!

.......Dave Lamson


-- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "gary laakso" <vasa0vasa@e...> wrote:

I think that Mainline Modeler had an article with many pictures
probably
in 1996 of high-running board tank cars.


[Original Message]
From: gbrail <gbrail@y...>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 1/15/2006 8:17:32 PM
Subject: [STMFC] High running board tank cars

I've looked on the index for reference to high-running board tank
cars
to no avail, unless I have not been doing it properly. Does
anyone make
such a car or are there any articles concerning building these
cars?


Youngstown Doors

paulbizier <pa.bizier@...>
 

There have been past posts regarding upcoming production of 5/5/4
Youngstown doors (in the "way back machine" they go back to 2002). Is
there any updated info as to when these doors will be available?

Paul Bizier

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