|
Re: Kadee Couplers
Sam Clarke wrote
Bulk packaging the #78 coupler may require more requests from thePLEASE bulk pack them. Oh and please redo the #78 box too! :-)
|
|
|
|
Re: Were there 10' IH 50' 1937 AAR DD boxcars?
Subtract these. They trace their lineage back to the old 1920s ARAPere Marquette 72000-72049, 7' single doors David, Kevin Lafferty posted roster info some time ago that PM 72000-72099 were built in 1940 with W-corner 5/5 ends and Viking roofs. Was that not correct? Tim O.
|
|
|
|
Re: Sant Fe Dry Ice Reefers
Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
If the Cardox car is under CDCX reporting marks, it is also a Merchants Despatch car;
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
these were converted from box cars. Roger Hinman
On Oct 5, 2005, at 10:52 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Gerald, I'm not aware of any other railroads that owned dry ice cars,I have a 1958 shot from [Dan Smith/Andy Carlson] of DICX 379 (Pure Carbonic)
|
|
|
|
Re: Sant Fe Dry Ice Reefers
Roger Hinman <rhinman@...>
Many of the Merchants Despatch dry ice cars were in fact converted from conventional reefers
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
and even the ones that were custom built were built to standard reefer car(or insulated box) designs. Roger Hinman
On Oct 6, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Bruce Smith wrote:
|
|
|
|
Re: Kadee 78s, was Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size
Jeff Helm <delta-p@...>
Is the 78 coupler and box designed to provide the proper coupling
height when mounted where a molded-on box was, as is the Accumate Proto (in most cases)? Thanks, Jeff Helm
|
|
|
|
Re: Were there 10' IH 50' 1937 AAR DD boxcars?
Scott Pitzer
Now I get it... it seems ORERs usually show only the usable door opening, and give you no idea there's an extra door.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Scott Pitzer ------------
-----Original Message-----
From: James D Thompson <jaydeet@inna.net> Sent: Oct 6, 2005 4:37 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Were there 10' IH 50' 1937 AAR DD boxcars? "PM 72000-72049 didThey were built as regular double-door cars with a 14-foot opening (two 7-foot doors) but the auxiliary door on the left was blocked off by the special interior lining. David Thompson Yahoo! Groups Links
|
|
|
|
FW: Athearn News - PS-2 Covered Hopper
Shawn Beckert
List,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Here are photos of Athearn's new PS-2. Rungs on the ladders are too thick, but can probably be chopped off without too much trouble. Shawn Beckert
-----Original Message-----
From: bounce-athearn-134658@publications.horizonhobby.com [mailto:bounce-athearn-134658@publications.horizonhobby.com]On Behalf Of Athearn Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 4:02 PM To: Beckert; Beckert, Shawn Subject: Athearn News Greetings! We have some shots of our new PS2 2893 covered hopper. In a word . . . . AWESOME. These are deco samples, so the final products might have a few tweaks to make them even better. But you'll get the idea from these photos. Here are some of the features that make these cars so truly outstanding: Separate, FACTORY INSTALLED grabirons and details. Out of the box, onto the track! Photo-etched roofwalk. "Early" version of this car - note the channel at each end of the body. Razor-sharp printing. Machined metal wheels. So here goes: End Detail http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/2893/end_detail.JPG Norfolk & Western - a cool two color paint scheme http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/2893/N-W.JPG Chesapeake & Ohio http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/2893/C_O.JPG Burlington Northern - a couple of views http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/2893/BN_a.JPG http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/2893/BN.JPG ATSF - a couple of views http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/2893/ATSF_a.JPG http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/2893/ATSF.JPG Conrail http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/2893/Conrail.JPG Monon - a couple of views http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/2893/Monon_a.JPG http://www.athearn.com/newsletter/2893/Monon.JPG We plan to have these in stores by the middle of November. If you haven't contacted your favorite dealer about these, why don't you go ahead and do that now? The Folks at Athearn Trains -- To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to leave-athearn-134658Y@publications.horizonhobby.com
|
|
|
|
Re: Were there 10' IH 50' 1937 AAR DD boxcars?
James D Thompson <jaydeet@...>
"PM 72000-72049 didThey were built as regular double-door cars with a 14-foot opening (two 7-foot doors) but the auxiliary door on the left was blocked off by the special interior lining. David Thompson
|
|
|
|
Re: Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size
joe binish <joebinish@...>
Sam,
As a builder not a hoarder(I only have 40+ kits to build, half resin), I would very much like to see the 78s in larger qty packaging. I no longer need the instructions and blister pack! Thanks, Joe Binish
|
|
|
|
Re: Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size
Patrick Wider <pwider@...>
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <mail@k...> wrote:
Bulk packaging the #78 coupler may require more requests from theThere you have it guys (and gals?) - you can vote with your ballot or vote with your feet. Pat Wider
|
|
|
|
Cor-Ten (was: Walthers 34' PS 3 Coal Hopper)
James D Thompson <jaydeet@...>
Next Question - did any other car builder than Pullman-Standard useSure. ACF, Ralston, Mount Vernon, General American, etc. USS wasn't picky about who built cars with their alloys. David Thompson
|
|
|
|
Re: Were there 10' IH 50' 1937 AAR DD boxcars?
Scott Pitzer
"PM 72000-72049 did
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
have 7-foot openings, but from the outside they looked like regular double-door cars." I don't follow this part... an extra door to allow for just one additional foot of width? Scott Pitzer ---------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: James D Thompson <jaydeet@inna.net> Sent: Oct 6, 2005 4:02 PM To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [STMFC] Re: Were there 10' IH 50' 1937 AAR DD boxcars? Pere Marquette 71000-71249 and 72125-72199 double door cars with endSubtract these. They trace their lineage back to the old 1920s ARA design, as do their C&O, Erie, and NKP counterparts. PM 72000-72049 did have 7-foot openings, but from the outside they looked like regular double-door cars. David Thompson Yahoo! Groups Links
|
|
|
|
Re: Were there 10' IH 50' 1937 AAR DD boxcars?
James D Thompson <jaydeet@...>
Pere Marquette 71000-71249 and 72125-72199 double door cars with endSubtract these. They trace their lineage back to the old 1920s ARA design, as do their C&O, Erie, and NKP counterparts. PM 72000-72049 did have 7-foot openings, but from the outside they looked like regular double-door cars. David Thompson
|
|
|
|
Re: The Dispatcher Knows (was: SP Freight Train Numbers . . . )
ljack70117@...
Kansas is in the good ol US of A. You should get a passport and go there some time and meet Dorothy.
Big grin On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:39 PM, Mike Brock wrote: Thank you Larry Jackman ljack70117@adelphia.net You can't have everything. Where would you put it?
|
|
|
|
Re: Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size
SamClarke
Pat,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
All of the black packaged #58 couplers are the newer no gap version. Bulk packaging the #78 coupler may require more requests from the modelers, the more demands we receive the closer we look at the project. One selling point our #78 has over the Accumate scale coupler is the coupler swing. Our #78 has a lot more swing than the Accumate scale box will allow, it even has more than #5 coupler, and it's all metal. Sam Clarke Kadee Quality Products
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Wider" <pwider@sbcglobal.net> To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size Sam,black label and green label only apply to sour mash whiskey. Can you clarify oneadditional thing? If the #58 package is black and has the bar code, is it certain to containcouplers without the dreaded "Gap"? My x-ray vision isn't what it used to be.couplers sans gap in some sort of bulk package????? Hmmmmm??????? I could potentiallybuy hundreds of the things but at a piddly four per pack???? No way. I would bet thatthey're not selling all that well that way. Ergo, I had to special order them at my localhobby shop. The first order they've ever had for them. 98% of the hobbyists wear funny vestsand don't buy RP CYC and don't find anything wrong with your standard line of couplers.Some will even use the cheap rip-offs. As you can tell from this thread, many seriousprototype modelers are in a quandary as to what "scale" coupler to buy. Some are convinced thatthe Sergent coupler is the way to go. I'm not. Others like the Accumate thingy. Idon't. Convince me and others that the #78 is the way to go. A four pack is OK forexperimental purposes but if I and others are going to convert a couple of hundred cars, we need abetter option. Quantity purchases can produce a profit for you as well.for witha readable bar code not to distinguish the change in the "gap" of the packaging.the gap and the one without, it came out after we bar coded the an veryacross the board price increase on all of our products, the first in a makevery long time. Just like every business in the world we still need to ita profit (perhaps a small one) and with the costs of everything going up continues to be a daily challenge.
|
|
|
|
Re: Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size
Patrick Wider <pwider@...>
Sam,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Thanks for the clarification concerning gaps and package colors! I guess black label and green label only apply to sour mash whiskey. Can you clarify one additional thing? If the #58 package is black and has the bar code, is it certain to contain couplers without the dreaded "Gap"? My x-ray vision isn't what it used to be. Also, now that I have your attention: when are you going to offer the #78 couplers sans gap in some sort of bulk package????? Hmmmmm??????? I could potentially buy hundreds of the things but at a piddly four per pack???? No way. I would bet that they're not selling all that well that way. Ergo, I had to special order them at my local hobby shop. The first order they've ever had for them. 98% of the hobbyists wear funny vests and don't buy RP CYC and don't find anything wrong with your standard line of couplers. Some will even use the cheap rip-offs. As you can tell from this thread, many serious prototype modelers are in a quandary as to what "scale" coupler to buy. Some are convinced that the Sergent coupler is the way to go. I'm not. Others like the Accumate thingy. I don't. Convince me and others that the #78 is the way to go. A four pack is OK for experimental purposes but if I and others are going to convert a couple of hundred cars, we need a better option. Quantity purchases can produce a profit for you as well. Pat Wider
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, <mail@k...> wrote:
Hello Pat Wider, and others,
|
|
|
|
Re: Were there 10' IH 50' 1937 AAR DD boxcars?
Richard Hendrickson
On Oct 6, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Patrick Wider wrote:
I haven't researched the geneology of these specific cars but they are 50', have double-Add: SAL 10000-10199 with double doors and X29 style riveted ends and roof (like the SAL B-6 class box cars) KCS 25000-25049 with 6' Pullman single doors Pere Marquette 71000-71249 and 72125-72199 double door cars with end doors Pere Marquette 71250-71349, 72050-72099, and 72100-72124 double door cars, no end doors Pere Marquette 72000-72049, 7' single doors Richard Hendrickson
|
|
|
|
Re: Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size
SamClarke
Hello Pat Wider, and others,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I've been follow this thread, quite an interesting discussion. To clarify a couple of items: First, the color of the #58 coupler packaging was changed from pinkish red to black to accommodate the need for a readable bar code not to distinguish the change in the "gap" of the knuckle. That's why the #78 package is the same for both the knuckle with the gap and the one without, it came out after we bar coded the packaging. The price of the #78 has nothing to with the gap. Last October we had an across the board price increase on all of our products, the first in a very very long time. Just like every business in the world we still need to make a profit (perhaps a small one) and with the costs of everything going up it continues to be a daily challenge. Sam Clarke Kadee Quality Products
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Wider" <pwider@sbcglobal.net> To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: [STMFC] Re: Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size Hey! I just discovered an older pack of #78 couplers with "The Gap"!!!!And the package has the same color as the other!!! What the?????????????????pack with "The Gap"!!!!!!! Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!couplers: no Gap "Black Label" isand Green Label #58 couplers have "The Gap". Just like Jack Daniels, been changedbetter. tothe new design without gap?
|
|
|
|
Re: Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size
Patrick Wider <pwider@...>
Hey! I just discovered an older pack of #78 couplers with "The Gap"!!!! And the package
has the same color as the other!!! What the????????????????? Note that the #78 pack without "The Gap" cost 50 cents more than the #78 pack with "The Gap"!!!!!!! Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!! Pat Wider --- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Wider" <pwider@s...> wrote: Andreas,to the new design without gap?
|
|
|
|
Re: Couplers, Coupler Pockets, The NMRA, and Scale Size
Patrick Wider <pwider@...>
Andreas,
My #78 couplers don't have "The Gap". Remember: Black Label #58 couplers: no Gap and Green Label #58 couplers have "The Gap". Just like Jack Daniels, "Black Label" is better. Pat Wider I have # 58 couplers without "The Gap", but have the # 78 couplers too been changed tothe new design without gap?
|
|
|
