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Re: Photo Gallery: PPKX 5568 (Poultry Car)

Bob Chaparro
 

Doug Harding commented...

"That is the poultry car that is at the Transportation Museum in St Louis. The only known poultry car to still exist. It was a Poultry Palace Car. The car is now sitting in the back of a building, almost inaccessible with no known plans to restore. This is a nice set of photos, apparently taken when the car was still outside."


Re: You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,

Examining the 1933 version of ARA Rules Governing the Loading of Commodities on Open Top Cars, figures 53-61, it is immediately apparent that this long load is most likely secured in compliance with ARA guidelines.

Long, rigid loads, could be secured at each pivot point to the pivot blocking, with no additional blocking needed.

If the loads had reasonable "sag", they might require intermediate blocking, not to stop movement, but to act as "sliders" to allow the load to move across the deck of the car without damaging the car.

Regards,
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


Re: SR 1944 AAR Boxcar -- C&BT Upgrade

Lester Breuer
 

Fine model work.  Thanks for sharing.
Lester Breuer


Re: AAR Closed Car Loading Guide

Allen Cain
 

Bob,

I have a collection of the AAR loading pamphlets but not all and each is specific to a particular commodity.

Issue and revision dates range from 1936 to 1959 with most in the 1940s.

If you can narrow down your request to a specific commodity I think I can help you.

Contact me off list and we will see what we can do.

Allen Cain


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Yes.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mel perry
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 11:04 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

 

has anyone given thought to the idea,

that this photo was taken before the

tie downs were completed?, be awful

difficult to have these prople standing

on the flat cars, with the apptopiate

tie downs installed, what ever they might

be?

mel perry


Photo: LPTC 847 (Poultry Car)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: LPTC 847 (Poultry Car)

An undated photo of a poultry car from WorthPoint:

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/live-poultry-transportation-company-11549263

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Hopper Bottom Boxcar

Bob Chaparro
 

Hopper Bottom Boxcar

Courtesy of "Puddington" on the Railwire Net website, who writes:

"An interesting article for a 1921 Popular Mechanic's magazine about a Canadian Pacific Railway "hopper bottom boxcar" design..."

http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/cpr_rolling/hopper_bottom_boxcar.jpg

It's a very short article with some photos.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Yes, of course, that’s understood.  But there may have been blocking on the end cars that is concealed by the long line of people.  The load spanned over the middle flat without touching it.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mvlandsw
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 10:58 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

 

There cannot be any blocking between the cradles that carry the load on the outer flatcars as the load must pivot on them.
Mark Vinski


AAR Closed Car Loading Guide

Bob Chaparro
 

AAR Closed Car Loading Guide

This is a link to the 2014 version of this document:

https://aar.com/standards/DPLS-content/Closed%20Car%20Loading%20Standards/CCLG%20Part%208%20-%20Bagged%20Commodities%207-2014.pdf

Obviously the document is too recent for this group.

Does anyone have a source or link to a similar document that would be dated 1960 or earlier?

Thank you.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

Bob Chaparro
 

Super Glue Storage

Many of us are at an age where we have a forest of pill bottles in our medicine cabinets. And many of these bottles contain a desiccant silica gel packet or capsule.

I save these and place them in a freeze-quality baggie along with my ACC glues. This is a bit more convenient than keeping them in the freezer and works just as well in my experience.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: SR 1944 AAR Boxcar -- C&BT Upgrade

O Fenton Wells
 

Nice looking model, Whose ladders did you use?
Fenton

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:31 AM James E Kubanick <jekuban@...> wrote:
Bob,

Beautiful upgrade of that old kit. That turned out to be an outstanding model.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020, 7:23:28 AM EDT, gtws00 via groups.io <gtws00=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


That turned out very nice. Those new detail parts are a great improvement 
Thanks for sharing
George Toman



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: Model Railroad 10 Year Archive 201-2019

Don DeLay
 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 08:12 AM, Bill J. wrote:
Talk about useless ...
The magazine or the DVD, lol!


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I have used the Locktite glues (it does come in several viscosities, including gel) for as many years as it’s been available.  But I also randomly buy other versions of superglue to try them out.  About two months ago I opened one of them that had, first of all been on my other desk for at least two years,  It’s the one in the photo, four 0.01 oz tubes, and not only was it still good (some superglue goes bad before I open them to begin with), it has remained, open on my desk sitting in a plastic drink cover for at least five weeks and STILL is good.  The spout has remained open (until this morning), but I reamed it out with a wire and it’s good to go.  As others have done, I tend to whack it down to clear the spout, but as often as not, I forget to do that. 

 

It is amazing how many joints 0.01 oz. will join.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 6:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] My superglue spouts stick to the caps

 

Hi Jim,

 

Jim wrote: “Has this happened to any one else?”

 

Hey Jim, welcome to the club!

 

Jim further wrote: “Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening again?”

 

I’m sure you will get a variety of answers to this question. My answer is, YES. The thing to do is to buy the small tubes instead of bottles. When you buy superglue in bottles several bad things happen – the tube gets stuck and becomes useless (as you experienced), the glue begins to thicken  with age, and after along enough time the glue ultimately solidifies inside the bottle.

 

The small tubes are VERY small, holding only a fractional ounce each. You open one, use it for a while, then throw it away when it is empty or when it is less than pristine. They are cheap, REAL CHEAP, sometime three tubes for a buck, so it’s not like you cannot afford to toss one that is less than wonderful. Since you throw them away often, they are never around long enough for the glue to thicken or solidify.

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

From: Jim Hayes

Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 6:02 PM

Subject: [RealSTMFC] My superglue spouts stick to the caps

 

I'm using 2 brands of superglue currently, Scotch and Bob Smith. When I tried to use them today, both of the spouts stuck to the caps. Even pliers wouldn't pull the spouts loose, so I was left with 2 bottles of open superglue with no caps -- useless.
Has this happened to any one else? Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening again?

JimH


Re: SR 1944 AAR Boxcar -- C&BT Upgrade

James E Kubanick
 

Bob,

Beautiful upgrade of that old kit. That turned out to be an outstanding model.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020, 7:23:28 AM EDT, gtws00 via groups.io <gtws00@...> wrote:


That turned out very nice. Those new detail parts are a great improvement 
Thanks for sharing
George Toman


Re: Model Railroad 10 Year Archive 201-2019

Bill J.
 

Talk about useless ...

Bill Jolitz


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

mel perry
 

has anyone given thought to the idea,
that this photo was taken before the
tie downs were completed?, be awful
difficult to have these prople standing
on the flat cars, with the apptopiate
tie downs installed, what ever they might
be?
mel perry


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Mark;

 

You bring up an issue I have not been able to find info on.  There are cases I have seen in which 3 flat cars were being used to transport a long load, with the outer cars bearing the load, and an idler between, but with what looks like an un-fixed support on the idler that looks like it might have acted as a slider in case )or in expectation that) the load sagged.

 

Folks;  What was the protocol with this?  Are there AAR guidelines for this?

 

Just wondering.

 

Thanks!

 

Elden Gatwood

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of mvlandsw
Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 10:58 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

 

There cannot be any blocking between the cradles that carry the load on the outer flatcars as the load must pivot on them.
Mark Vinski


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

Thomas Evans
 

I've used the various Zap varieties for years.
The caps never stick, but I sometimes have to ream out the spout - no big deal.

Tom E.


Re: My superglue spouts stick to the caps

Stan Madyda
 

I also had a top break off the Loctite Ultra Liquid Control Glue.  I found that you can unscrew the remaining top from the base and salvage some of what's left.  It comes out in a puddle and the broken top serves as a new "cap."  Not sure how long this will hold up, but I did get several more uses out of the bottle.


Re: SR 1944 AAR Boxcar -- C&BT Upgrade

gtws00
 

That turned out very nice. Those new detail parts are a great improvement 
Thanks for sharing
George Toman

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