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Re: Missing brake stand

mopacfirst
 

Reference several classes of CB&Q composite boxcars modeled by Sunshine
and perhaps others.

Ron Merrick


--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Tony Thompson <thompsonmarytony@s...>
wrote:

Dean Payne wrote:
<snip>
Dean, there was a time when not every car was built with one.

Tony Thompson


Re: railroad phone booths, phone boxes along side freight cars

vyoung5622@...
 

Earl,

Were you looking for phone booths, boxes, etc. from a particular railroad or
just all of them in general?

Virgil Young
Amarillo, TX
vyoung5622@aol.com


railroad phone booths, phone boxes along side freight cars

Earl Myers <emyers5@...>
 

List;
I am looking for any photos of freight cars, etc., that may have those railroad phone boxes in the background either pole mounted, attached to relay boxes or to signal towers anytime in the steam era. This would include those 5,6 & 8 sided concrete phonebooths or whatever their use was. Any photos would be most appreciated. Many times they were scattered around the yards or by towers. Thanks for the minor digression from the main topic but they were closely associated with steam era freight cars and cabins.
Earl Myers


Re: Patch panels on Red Caboose X29/ARA

al_brown03
 

Looking at my pile of kit-bashing supplies, that's not so bad. It gives
you lots of parts, usually cheaper than you could get them
individually.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "rockroll50401" <cepropst@n...> wrote:

I have several unbuilt undecorated Red Caboose X-29 and ARA kits
and
would like to replace the body molding on at least some these kits
with
their newly tooled versions with the patch panels.
Bill Welch
Bill,
It has been my experience that both RC and IM that they will sell
you all parts except the body. They make you buy the entire kit.
Good luck,
Clark Propst


Re: Patch panels on Red Caboose X29/ARA

rockroll50401 <cepropst@...>
 

I have several unbuilt undecorated Red Caboose X-29 and ARA kits and
would like to replace the body molding on at least some these kits
with
their newly tooled versions with the patch panels.
Bill Welch
Bill,
It has been my experience that both RC and IM that they will sell
you all parts except the body. They make you buy the entire kit.
Good luck,
Clark Propst


Re: Rio Grande Hopper Car Lettering Specs

raildata@...
 

If we had the orginal car number we here at the Colorado Railroad Museum may
have a copy of the D&RGW lpainting and lettering drawing for the car.

Send the request to crrm.org or to me at RAILDATA@aol..

Chuck Yungkurth
Boulder CO


Re: Rio Grande Hopper Car Lettering Specs

Tony Thompson
 

Greg Udolph wrote:
Here at the Heber Valley Railroad we are currently working on painting some
freight cars for our Feb. 7, 8 & 9 photo charter. Right now we are working
on a former Rio Grande 70 ton 3 bay hopper . . .
Possibly giving us a car number or built date would help us help you. Any chance?

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Rio Grande Hopper Car Lettering Specs

Greg Udolph <gu292901@...>
 

Hello,

Here at the Heber Valley Railroad we are currently working on painting some
freight cars for our Feb. 7, 8 & 9 photo charter. Right now we are working
on a former Rio Grande 70 ton 3 bay hopper. We have the car painted black
and have hit a dead end. We are currently looking for the specifications on
how to properly letter the car. Namely height, width and proper location of
the lettering as it would have appeared on the car in the late 40's and
early 50's. We need your help! We can't find these specifications anywhere.
If anyone has this information or knows where it can be found please e-mail
me at gregudolph@gmail.com or post here on STMFC.

Hopefully in the near future I will have some pictures of what is currently
going on at the Heber Valley Railroad shop. Until then, you can see one of
our newly painted freight cars at:
http://www.hebervalleyrr.org/volunteer/supportcrew/supportcrew.html
<http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/warning.php?forum_id=11&url=http%3A%2
F%2Fwww.hebervalleyrr.org%2Fvolunteer%2Fsupportcrew%2Fsupportcrew.html> .

You will also see pictures on this page of Great Western #75 which is
currently deep into a rebuild. Thank you for your help.

Keep Steaming,
Greg Udolph
Heber City, UT
gregudolph@gmail.com
gu292901@ohio.edu


Re: Cocoa Beach

Douglas Harding <d.harding@...>
 

I also wish to thank Mike, Jeff and all the others for a wonderful
experience. I also echo Clark's comments. As one of the Iowan's basking in
the Sun on Thursday I still don't understand the complaints about the
weather. I thought it was perfect. But then I was a first time attendee and
have no previous experiences for comparison.

My personal highlight took place during my presentation. Upon Richard
Hendrickson responding he had his "prototype police badge upstairs in his
room" it was being able to say 'Richard I don't care' and watching his face!
It was what MasterCard calls "priceless". Upon later reflection I wish to
retract that statement and instead say to Richard (and Tony) "when you
produce the badge in my basement you may issue the deserved citations."

Thanks again to all who make it great weekend, and Clark yes it was fun! I
suggest we work up some additional material so we can WOW them again next
year with more Mason City stuff.

Doug Harding
Iowa Central Railroad
http://d.harding.home.mchsi.com


Re: Need help in knowing which NP W&R 41' outside braced boxcar to buy?

gary laakso
 

From the W&R flyer, I believe any and all would fit your era: "The Northern
Pacific built the 14500 series cars in its Brainerd, MN shops in 1931-32.
Concurrently, the 20000 series was built at Laurel, MT. The only
difference in the cars was the tonnage rating and trucks. The Brainerd
cars were rated at 40 ton and the Laurel cars rated at 50 ton. Later,
truckes were upgraded and many of the cras were rated at 70 ton. The car
had rather low roofs for boxcars. From the top of floor to top of door was
only 8'-3". The cars were also peculiar because the sides were built up of
only 2" winde boards rather thean the usual 6" wide boards. The boxcars
served the Northern Pacific primarliy in grain serivice. As the bodies
became loose, they were reassigned to general freight, The cars lasted
into the Burlington Northen era and were still around as late as 1977."


[Original Message]
From: ogdentowebercanyon <ogdentowebercanyon@yahoo.com>
To: <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 1/10/2006 4:59:37 PM
Subject: [STMFC] Need help in knowing which NP W&R 41' outside braced
boxcar to buy?

I model 1946 to 1947 on the UP and have been wanting to add one of
the Northern Pacific W and R enterprise 41' boxcars to my fleet but
don't know which one would be correct for my era. Any help on
timeframes for these cars? Thanks.


WRE-NPBOXV1 NP #14500-14999 41 foot Outside Braced Boxcar, 40 Ton, Low
inside height of 8ft 3in, Built at Brainerd, MN, K Brakes, Betterndorf
T section trucks, FP Mineral Red Body, Black underframe and trucks

WRE-NPBOXV3 NP #14500-14999 Outside Braced Boxcar, Upgraded, 70 Ton,
Low inside height of 8ft 3in, Built at Brainerd, MN, AB Brakes, ASF
trucks, FP Mineral Red Body, Black underframe and trucks

WRE-NPBOXV2 NP #20000-20499 Outside Braced Boxcar, 50 Ton, Low inside
height of 8ft 3in, Built at Laurel, MT, K Brakes, Andrews trucks, FP
Mineral Red Body, Black underframe and trucks

WRE-NPBOXV4 NP #20000-20499 Outside Braced Boxcar, Upgraded, 70 Ton,
Low inside height of 8ft 3in, Built at Laurel, MT, AB Brakes, ASF
trucks, FP Mineral Red Body, underframe and trucks







Yahoo! Groups Links





Re: Cocoa beach

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Clark Propst writes:


I want to say that Cocoa was fun. I've never said that about a Proto meet before.
It looks like we succeeded. Some of you may be aware that in the Tom Hanks movie The Terminal, an actor by the name of Stanley Tucci played the role of the airport manager. Oddly, Tucci looks amazingly similar to Mike Rose...one of Prototype Rails and my favorite clinicians. Several including Bill Schaumburg agree with me about the similarity. Not wishing to pass up on the opportunity, I had a young and very attractive lady member of the hotel staff come over to our lunch table on Wed. just before a meeting with the hotel staff and ask for Stanley's autograph. Mike reacted with his usual aplomb...scribbling from Stan with love. Incidentally, one of my more enjoyable moments actually occurred in 2004's event. For those that weren't here or don't recall my little bit of amusement, I assembled about 15 of the leading experts on steam era frt cars in the entire universe on the far side of Dale Jct. After warning this august group that I was going to run a train by them and then ask two questions...I did just that. After the 30 car frt train went slowly by...all of them staring at it with eagle eyes...I asked "Which car had the "code 88" sized wheels and which AAR "1944" box car was one ft too long.

The response:

After waiting another few minutes in stone silence, Bill Schneider, expressing a sly grin, noted that the only Branchline box car that was built too long that was in the train was the NP car. After agreeing with him, I also noted that IT was the car with the "Code 88" wheels.

I suppose, though, that nothing will top the Thursday evening session at my layout in, I think, 2002. It was then that Bruce Smith was standing holding his very young daughter Brianna watching a Mike Rose diesel ascend Sherman Hill's three track. Above all the background noise and the sounds of Mike's engine, one could hear quite clearly Brianna exclaim..."But, Daddy, I don't like the diesels, I like the steam engines". With that simple, truthful statement, young Brianna went into history with a lifetime pass to Prototype Rails.

Mike Brock


Re: Cocoa beach

Clark Propst <cepropst@...>
 

I want to say that Cocoa was fun. I've never said that about a Proto meet before.

Fun: Setting at the outside bar and feeling the warmth of the sun. I felt like a reptile lying on a rock.

Funny: All the jabs poked at Mike Moore about his rental car.

Funnier: Watching Ben Hom try not to pee is pants when Stan said he went to school with a Polish kid that was really dumb.

Funniest: Having Chet French walk up to me looking at his watch saying "I didn't think it was possible, but Stan beat his last years clinic time by 8 minutes!"

Clark Propst
Mason City Iowa


Need help in knowing which NP W&R 41' outside braced boxcar to buy?

ogdentowebercanyon
 

I model 1946 to 1947 on the UP and have been wanting to add one of
the Northern Pacific W and R enterprise 41' boxcars to my fleet but
don't know which one would be correct for my era. Any help on
timeframes for these cars? Thanks.


WRE-NPBOXV1 NP #14500-14999 41 foot Outside Braced Boxcar, 40 Ton, Low
inside height of 8ft 3in, Built at Brainerd, MN, K Brakes, Betterndorf
T section trucks, FP Mineral Red Body, Black underframe and trucks

WRE-NPBOXV3 NP #14500-14999 Outside Braced Boxcar, Upgraded, 70 Ton,
Low inside height of 8ft 3in, Built at Brainerd, MN, AB Brakes, ASF
trucks, FP Mineral Red Body, Black underframe and trucks

WRE-NPBOXV2 NP #20000-20499 Outside Braced Boxcar, 50 Ton, Low inside
height of 8ft 3in, Built at Laurel, MT, K Brakes, Andrews trucks, FP
Mineral Red Body, Black underframe and trucks

WRE-NPBOXV4 NP #20000-20499 Outside Braced Boxcar, Upgraded, 70 Ton,
Low inside height of 8ft 3in, Built at Laurel, MT, AB Brakes, ASF
trucks, FP Mineral Red Body, underframe and trucks


Re: Chris Zygmunt's SP 106433 Boxcar

Tony Thompson
 

Beckert, Shawn wrote:
Is Chris Zygmunt a listmember? I'd like to know more about the
work he did to his model of SP 106433:
http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/image/54654310
1) I assume it's a Red Caboose/IMWX kit to start with, yes?
I can respond to this part. It's the later postwar class, B-50-31, built in 1952 with a 7-foot door and diagonal-panel roof, so the prewar roof and ends wouldn't cut it. The paint scheme of course is post-1955.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Are there any Alton Boxcar kits?

Westerfield <westerfield@...>
 

Gary - We also make the B-50-9, kit 7306. - Al

How old a car do you want? Westerfield makes the B-50-2 and B-50-4 boxcars
in Alton versions (kits 1708 and 1718),


Cocoa Beach - Chris Zygmunt's SP 106433 Boxcar

Shawn Beckert
 

Guys,

Is Chris Zygmunt a listmember? I'd like to know more about the
work he did to his model of SP 106433:

http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/image/54654310

1) I assume it's a Red Caboose/IMWX kit to start with, yes?

2) Whose brake detail parts were used for the rigging?

3) What did you use for weathering to bring about that typically
SP aged "yellowy" look to the lettering?

Thanks,

Shawn Beckert


Re: Missing brake stand

Tony Thompson
 

Dean Payne wrote:
OK then, "brake STEP," although perhaps brake "platform" might be more
common . . . Intermountain and Proto use "step",
and Red Caboose uses "platform", as does Funaro and Tichy.
Not only the Cyclopedias, as Dennis Storzek observed (he cited 1953; it's also in the 1919 edition), but also all prototype car orders I've seen, use the term "brake step" for this part. And as you noticed, Dean, there was a time when not every car was built with one.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; fax, (510) 540-1937; e-mail, thompson@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Coco Beach Photos Posted

jerryglow2
 

As usual, thanks for the great coverage Dave, to remind me what I saw
and missed. I really appreciate the excellent format on your PBASE
site.


Jerry Glow

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "dh30973" <76523.1060@c...> wrote:

For those of you that were unable to attend, and those who spent too
much time in clinics and didn't see them, I have posted a gallery of
photographs of some of the models on display from the meet.

The photos are in my pbase album at:
http://www.pbase.com/dh30973/coco06

Any corrections to name spelling are welcome. Appologies to folks
whose
models I missed.

Dave Hussey


Re: [PCL] Cocoa and Aley

Mike Brock <brockm@...>
 

Peter Weiglin notes:

Well, there were still quite a few slide presentations, but it seems that the
primary reason why the "tech" side went so well was that Jeff Aley bounced from
room to room, seemingly everywhere at once, making sure things worked. His role
was largely unsung because things went so well that the process was mostly
invisible. May we pause to applaud his efforts here.
I'll echo that. Among the few things I recall that happened during the weekend...brain overload...was that I complained to Tony Thompson that I didn't get to see his presentation on PFE operations. He noted..."Hmmm, Jeff was there." I replied with, "Sounds like the boy needs more duties." Actually, the concept is an old one and certainly I and others employed it during my NASA yrs. Find someone who can do stuff well and then give them as many jobs as you can. In this case, though, Jeff has enough to do...although we'll probably arrange for him to begin action on the clinic schedule a bit earlier. He'll also take charge of the Prototype Rails website. The point is, Jeff's activities are/were very much appreciated and it's good that they be noted by others.

Mike Brock


Re: Are there any Alton Boxcar kits?

Ray Breyer <rbreyer@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of gary
Subject: [STMFC] Are there any Alton Boxcar kits?
Looking at Ted's wonderful calendar, for the month of June there is the
Milwaukee's Galewood yard with an Alton newly painted boxcar. Has anyone
done Alton boxcars? It is a great looking car.
Gary,

How old a car do you want? Westerfield makes the B-50-2 and B-50-4 boxcars
in Alton versions (kits 1708 and 1718), and Sunshine makes four kits:

29.10 - Alton WWII war-emergency box
31.20 - Alton 1942 AAR steel box, Youngstown doors
31.21 - Alton 1942 AAR steel box, Superior doors
63.2 - Alton aluminum express box

Ray Breyer

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