Date   

Re: Still have one resin kit for sale

Jeff Coleman
 

Things not looking all that good for the new NEB&W.
RPI is renting the new space but since they fired John Nehrich there is no one to lead the way. John isn't allowed in new location or have any contact with the layout. 

Jeff Coleman



On Tue, May 5, 2020, 11:29 AM Scott Kremer <skremer@...> wrote:
They have a beautiful space, much larger than before.  They just announced that the move is complete.  They expect that this move and location will be of great benefit.

Scott Kremer






Spen Kellogg

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Please contact me directly.

 

Thanks

 

Schuyler


Photos: LPTC 800 (Poultry Car)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: LPTC 800 (Poultry Car)

1924 photos from the Pickens County Library System on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pcls/260037369/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pcls/260037236/in/photostream/

Description: "First Pickens County poultry shipment."

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

George Courtney
 

I cannot see this shipment on my 39" radius curves in S scale.  28.6 in HO scale.


Re: You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Entirely possible, and also possible that all those folks were standing in front of a lot of blocking next to/below the Vulcanizer.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 11:11 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

 

Hi Schuyler,

 

Is it possible that the process of adding securements is still unfinished and under way? The tie-down crew took a break and it was a good time for the photographer to get everyone together at lunchtime?

 

Claus Schlund

 

 

From: Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 10:35 AM

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

 

What appears to me to be amazingly minimal tie-downs for that load.  A hoop, not even tight, over the two end cars?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 4:27 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

 

You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

A 1953 photo from the Akron-Summit County Public Library:

https://www.summitmemory.org/digital/collection/ABJarchives/id/2001/

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Description: "Photograph of more than eighty employees of Biggs Boiler Works Co. lined up on three railroad flat cars to illustrate the length of a huge vulcanizer the Akron firm had just completed for the Johns-Manville Co. plant in Port Union, Ontario. The steel cylinder was one of the two longest ever shipped by Biggs. It measured 146 feet in length, 90 inches in diameter, and weighed 115,000 pounds. Because of its length and the necessity for avoiding curves, a special route to its destination had to be worked out."

Additional Description: "They're Making 'Em Big at Biggs Boiler / to Kuebler. 146 Ft. Long Cylinder at Biggs Boiler / 1-19-53 / They're Making 'Em Big At Biggs Boiler / More than 80 employees of Biggs Boiler Works Co. line up on three railroad flat cars to illustrate the length of a huge vulcanizer the Akron firm has just completed for Johns-Manville Co. plant in Port Union, Ont. The steel cylinder is one of the two longest ever shipped by Biggs. It measures 146 feet in length, 90 inches in diameter and weighs 115,000 pounds. Because of its length and the necessity for avoiding curves, a special route to its destination had to be worked out. / Beacon Journal Photograph"

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Still have one resin kit for sale

Scott Kremer
 

They have a beautiful space, much larger than before. They just announced that the move is complete. They expect that this move and location will be of great benefit.

Scott Kremer


Re: Still have one resin kit for sale

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Okay, okay, relax, guys.  I got an email (don’t know as I kept it) that the NEB&W had spent the spring semester moving into their new space, evidently larger than the old and NOT in a basement, but in a building in downtown Troy.  The layout will be reassembled and eventually opened to the public as an attraction highlighting the historic aspects of downtown Troy and the surrounding Upstate New York/Vermont area.

 

I suspect that the NEB&W website probably has the story.  I have not looked.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of erieblt2
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 10:26 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Still have one resin kit for sale

 

Yikes! I had not heard that the NEB&W was gone! Why? What happened? I bought lots of good stuff from them when they had a hobby shop(early 90’s). The Guides they published are very useful. I agree-someone with deep pockets will hopefully step in. They could sell off sections, buildings, equipment. There is a list of whole or sections of ‘famous’/MR project layouts. We’ve poured a lot of time on the historically accurate layout in the Washington State History Museum(PSMRE). Our hope is that it will be as ‘permanent’ as is possible in the world. Bruce Chubbs ‘Sunset Valley’ is to be -hopefully-saved. Sad to think the hobby may someday be only seen in museums. Bill Smith



On May 5, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:




I think that is the kit also used for the NEB&W (RPI) fictional railroad, if anyone is so inclined.
The layout was dismantled last year and WAS going to be moved but with RPI in dire financial
straits now, who knows what will happen without a rich benefactor? I know there are some
LOADED model railroad buffs out there... :-D

Tim O'Connor


On 5/4/2020 8:01 PM, Jared Harper wrote:

I have a Rutland Car Shops resin kit for a Rutland 36' Rutland stock car.  With some work it can be bashed into a Santa Fe stock car.  Steve Sandifer did it.  My kit is for sale for $25 plus  shipping.

 

Jared Harper

420 Woodward Way

Athens, GA 30606

 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Schuyler,
 
Is it possible that the process of adding securements is still unfinished and under way? The tie-down crew took a break and it was a good time for the photographer to get everyone together at lunchtime?
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

From: Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 10:35 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!
 

What appears to me to be amazingly minimal tie-downs for that load.  A hoop, not even tight, over the two end cars?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 4:27 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

 

You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

A 1953 photo from the Akron-Summit County Public Library:

https://www.summitmemory.org/digital/collection/ABJarchives/id/2001/

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Description: "Photograph of more than eighty employees of Biggs Boiler Works Co. lined up on three railroad flat cars to illustrate the length of a huge vulcanizer the Akron firm had just completed for the Johns-Manville Co. plant in Port Union, Ontario. The steel cylinder was one of the two longest ever shipped by Biggs. It measured 146 feet in length, 90 inches in diameter, and weighed 115,000 pounds. Because of its length and the necessity for avoiding curves, a special route to its destination had to be worked out."

Additional Description: "They're Making 'Em Big at Biggs Boiler / to Kuebler. 146 Ft. Long Cylinder at Biggs Boiler / 1-19-53 / They're Making 'Em Big At Biggs Boiler / More than 80 employees of Biggs Boiler Works Co. line up on three railroad flat cars to illustrate the length of a huge vulcanizer the Akron firm has just completed for Johns-Manville Co. plant in Port Union, Ont. The steel cylinder is one of the two longest ever shipped by Biggs. It measures 146 feet in length, 90 inches in diameter and weighs 115,000 pounds. Because of its length and the necessity for avoiding curves, a special route to its destination had to be worked out. / Beacon Journal Photograph"

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I tried holding the decal sheet up to a light in a Luxo adjustable fixture and that was no help.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hudson Leighton
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 6:19 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] NPRHA decals for Rapido NP box.

 

Using a lightbox may be the way to see the decals better, if all else fails Tupperware and a Flashlight.

-Hudson


Re: You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

Schuyler Larrabee
 

What appears to me to be amazingly minimal tie-downs for that load.  A hoop, not even tight, over the two end cars?

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2020 4:27 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

 

You Can Model This Scene With Just Three Flat Cars And A Lot Of People!

A 1953 photo from the Akron-Summit County Public Library:

https://www.summitmemory.org/digital/collection/ABJarchives/id/2001/

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Description: "Photograph of more than eighty employees of Biggs Boiler Works Co. lined up on three railroad flat cars to illustrate the length of a huge vulcanizer the Akron firm had just completed for the Johns-Manville Co. plant in Port Union, Ontario. The steel cylinder was one of the two longest ever shipped by Biggs. It measured 146 feet in length, 90 inches in diameter, and weighed 115,000 pounds. Because of its length and the necessity for avoiding curves, a special route to its destination had to be worked out."

Additional Description: "They're Making 'Em Big at Biggs Boiler / to Kuebler. 146 Ft. Long Cylinder at Biggs Boiler / 1-19-53 / They're Making 'Em Big At Biggs Boiler / More than 80 employees of Biggs Boiler Works Co. line up on three railroad flat cars to illustrate the length of a huge vulcanizer the Akron firm has just completed for Johns-Manville Co. plant in Port Union, Ont. The steel cylinder is one of the two longest ever shipped by Biggs. It measures 146 feet in length, 90 inches in diameter and weighs 115,000 pounds. Because of its length and the necessity for avoiding curves, a special route to its destination had to be worked out. / Beacon Journal Photograph"

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Still have one resin kit for sale

erieblt2
 

I’m interested in the car. I live in Bremerton WA, 98312. How do I pay you. Thank you, William Smith (really!)


On May 5, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



I think that is the kit also used for the NEB&W (RPI) fictional railroad, if anyone is so inclined.
The layout was dismantled last year and WAS going to be moved but with RPI in dire financial
straits now, who knows what will happen without a rich benefactor? I know there are some
LOADED model railroad buffs out there... :-D

Tim O'Connor


On 5/4/2020 8:01 PM, Jared Harper wrote:
I have a Rutland Car Shops resin kit for a Rutland 36' Rutland stock car.  With some work it can be bashed into a Santa Fe stock car.  Steve Sandifer did it.  My kit is for sale for $25 plus  shipping.

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30606


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Proto2000 Boxcars

George Eichelberger
 

The cars were built with wood running and "latitudinal" boards and replaced later.

The Evans auto racks were removed from most of the cars after a few years. I don’t know if the end doors were welded shut but they were not used (I’m sure there are exceptions).

The first order, built in 1938, were given the original SR Monogram (never called a “herald!). Dates on that are a bit “iffy”, the pencil version in the SRHA archives of the drawing dates to 1938 (because of the new all-steel 40’ and 50’ box cars delivered then?) but the “official” linen tracing was not issued just after WWII (details are in the SRHA book).

We need more photo evidence of which monogram was put on the cars in '44 and '45 because the few in original paint in the SRHA collection are faded but appear to show the second version where “The Southern serves the south” was not equally spaced around the outer circle. The question is further confused because the monograms on many stencil placement diagrams were never changed. As a “stencil” drawing was not intended to show the details of any specific stencil, only their placement on a car and the size of the monogram on box cars did not change, the shops and carbuilders simply applied the correct stencil per the drawing list.

I am (mostly) confident that all 50’ box cars after the 1938 order were given the second version.

Another factoid about the SR monogram…on the first 40’ and 50’ all steel cars, aluminum stencil paste was used. It’s hard to confirm that with B&W photos but the stencil drawings are specific, and shows the change to white. The Southern stopped using aluminum stencil paste about the same time they stopped using alum. pain on their DL-109s and 110s. Certainly WWII on the horizon led to that decision.

Ike


Re: Still have one resin kit for sale

erieblt2
 

Yikes! I had not heard that the NEB&W was gone! Why? What happened? I bought lots of good stuff from them when they had a hobby shop(early 90’s). The Guides they published are very useful. I agree-someone with deep pockets will hopefully step in. They could sell off sections, buildings, equipment. There is a list of whole or sections of ‘famous’/MR project layouts. We’ve poured a lot of time on the historically accurate layout in the Washington State History Museum(PSMRE). Our hope is that it will be as ‘permanent’ as is possible in the world. Bruce Chubbs ‘Sunset Valley’ is to be -hopefully-saved. Sad to think the hobby may someday be only seen in museums. Bill Smith


On May 5, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



I think that is the kit also used for the NEB&W (RPI) fictional railroad, if anyone is so inclined.
The layout was dismantled last year and WAS going to be moved but with RPI in dire financial
straits now, who knows what will happen without a rich benefactor? I know there are some
LOADED model railroad buffs out there... :-D

Tim O'Connor


On 5/4/2020 8:01 PM, Jared Harper wrote:
I have a Rutland Car Shops resin kit for a Rutland 36' Rutland stock car.  With some work it can be bashed into a Santa Fe stock car.  Steve Sandifer did it.  My kit is for sale for $25 plus  shipping.

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30606


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Proto2000 Boxcars

Tim O'Connor
 


The P2K end door cars are correct for the Southern. P2K mostly kept close to the prototype in their
paint schemes.

Tim O'Connor


On 5/4/2020 4:21 PM, Garth Groff and Sally Sanford wrote:
Allen,

Our friend Fenton Wells wrote an article in the November 2012 RMC on kitbashing the Southern cars to 10' IH.

I do not see Southern represented in two RMJ articles on the Lifelike cars by Richard Hendrickson, October 1995 and September 1996.

The 1944 ORER lists three classes of 50' 10' 6' IH double door boxcars with 15' 6" door openings: 40200-40249 (end doors and auto racks), 41500-41549 (end doors, no racks), 42000-42299 (no end doors or auto racks). Curiously, the total number of cars in each group is not filled in, suggesting they were pending delivery when the ORER was printed, though the "denotes additions" triangles are missing.

I have unbuilt Lifelike kit 21027 for Southern 40249, and kit 8419 for 42010. I seem to remember there was something a bit dodgy about these two cars, maybe the sills or something. They do look nice.

The only thing I can add is that I have a copy of a builder's photo of 39969 circa 1947. This car has Superior doors and 4/4 improved Dreadnaught ends.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 3:42 PM Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...> wrote:
Old subject but my memory is fading for some reason?

Were the P2K boxcars painted for the Southern accurate to any prototype?  I have several plus some undecorated kits that I am finally getting around to.

Thanks,

Allen Cain


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Proto2000 Boxcars

Tim O'Connor
 


The most common difference between the prototype double door cars and the model is the doors
and the size of the door opening. And other things. (NKP had Viking roofs. Wabash had Superior
doors. usw.)

Also the FIRST RUN of Proto 2000 50 foot box cars had incorrect roofs ! I think many people tend
not to notice this - They had the wrong number of panels!

I believe it was fixed on the cars without end doors.

Tim O'Connor




On 5/4/2020 3:48 PM, rdgbuff56 via groups.io wrote:
Not sure.  But do have an updated for sale list.

Francis A. Pehowic, Jr.

On Monday, May 4, 2020, 7:42:23 PM UTC, Allen Cain <allencaintn@...> wrote:


Old subject but my memory is fading for some reason?

Were the P2K boxcars painted for the Southern accurate to any prototype?  I have several plus some undecorated kits that I am finally getting around to.

Thanks,

Allen Cain
_._,_._,

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Photo Gallery: PPKX 5568 (Poultry Car)

Alex Huff
 

Isn't this car the sole survivor of its type?  Was this car set aside/retired in Paris, Illinois for years?

Alex Huff


Re: Another Proto2000 question

Tim O'Connor
 


The model is almost exactly right for the UP A-50-17, but they were built in 1941. And to make a
more accurate model, use Archer's "alternate center rivet" decals and make modifications to the side sill.
Late in life some cars lost their doors and were put into fresh wood veneer service.




On 5/4/2020 7:10 PM, Ron Merrick wrote:
Sorry I can't look this up for myself, but I've moved most of my reference material and not myself.

There are more than one Proto2000 50' double door box with end doors available on line, in the yellow lettering Be Specific and in a transitional red with white lettering with the shield UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD, and Automated Rail Way scheme.  I decaled one in the Be Specific scheme years ago, so my question is whether this scheme is legitimate and common.  This model, by the way, is marked NEW 9-56, which I know is not matching with the details of the car construction.

Second, related, question -- did these cars, which were probably early 40s construction, generally get roofwalk replacements?

https://www.ebay.com/itm//333548211837

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Still have one resin kit for sale

Tim O'Connor
 


I think that is the kit also used for the NEB&W (RPI) fictional railroad, if anyone is so inclined.
The layout was dismantled last year and WAS going to be moved but with RPI in dire financial
straits now, who knows what will happen without a rich benefactor? I know there are some
LOADED model railroad buffs out there... :-D

Tim O'Connor


On 5/4/2020 8:01 PM, Jared Harper wrote:
I have a Rutland Car Shops resin kit for a Rutland 36' Rutland stock car.  With some work it can be bashed into a Santa Fe stock car.  Steve Sandifer did it.  My kit is for sale for $25 plus  shipping.

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30606


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Model Railroad 10 Year Archive 201-2019

Nelson Moyer
 

I purchased the subject DVD with the intent of loading the database to my desktop and searching across issues for freight car data like I do with the 40 year MR archive. Unfortunately, neither seems possible, as the disk is copy protected, and the only search function is for each individual monthly issue open as a pdf file. Even more objectionable to me is that the archive comes on two DVDs, meaning one must physically change DVDs to view the entire archive. None of this was revealed prior to purchase. Caveat Emptor!!

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: Proto2000 Boxcars

O Fenton Wells
 

Some of the P2k heralds are bas and decals are needed, Mask Island or Speedwitch


On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 9:01 AM Allen Cain <Allencaintn@...> wrote:
Garth,

Both the herald and running boards are good questions. Maybe someone has the answers 

If the herald was correct for the 1944 build date , not saying it is, would it have been repainted with the post war herald for mid 1950s service?

And were the wooden roof walks replaced by the mid 1950s (have the rules for them somewhere)?

Anyone?

Allen Cain



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...

13541 - 13560 of 186232