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Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT
Fred Overland imported original and rebuilt cars, including a single door version.
On 10/31/2019 11:04 AM, Fred Jansz wrote:
Received my OMI 'Wabash' steel dd boxcar today...NOT. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Chicagoland RPM Handouts
gtws00
Don,
I use Chrome for a Browser. When select each one to download, they go to my download folder and I retrieve them from that location In my Chrome Browser, they also show at the very bottom left hand side of the browser George Toman
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Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches
Charlie Vlk
Could be for hauling dried processed sewage from the IC subsidiary Illinois Northern which could get it from the Metropolitan Sanitary District of Chicago. The MSDC had their own dump cars which presumably hauled the wet “product” to dumps on the IN and there, after drying, it was further processed. I know you could get dump truck loads of the stuff delivered in the Chicago area; don’t know if it was bagged and shipped elsewhere or if it was shipped bulk without packaging out of the area. Charlie Vlk
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeffrey White
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 11:31 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches
The IC had fertilizer sludge cars (I have no idea what fertilizer sludge is) they converted from SS boxcars they acquired from the Tennessee Coal and Iron Railroad. I haven't got a photo but the diagram sheet says 4 roof hatches and plywood lining. Jeff White Alma, IL On 10/30/2019 9:16 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
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Photos: Reefers Refrigerated With Drumgold And Glenn Brine System
Photos: Reefers Refrigerated With Drumgold And Glenn Brine System Images from the Nebraska State Historical Society: https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/F0BD661F-BC3D-425E-810D-843799030680 https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/50DC1CEE-418E-41CB-9DF8-874250341613 https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/6D94F0F3-7251-49B6-A2F7-332525560229 https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/B2EF2C20-BEA1-4C72-8E5E-494386272591 https://nebraskahistory.pastperfectonline.com/photo/C302AC8D-964C-4610-B70E-863105150773 Click on the photos to enlarge them. Bob Chaparro Moderator Railway Bull Shippers Group
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Re: Chicagoland RPM Handouts
On Oct 31, 2019, at 08:31, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Jeff, and all;
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A fertilizer sludge car was, unfortunately, exactly what it sounds like: an old car on its last legs, converted to haul liquid feces waste from the fertilizer process, lined and coated inside with tar, with roof hatches and bottom outlets. I remember a few of these from my childhood, rolling by, dripping profusely, and driving me away from trackside. The box car version of an offal car, with a different, but equally vile aroma. Just the thing for a layout, with "Real Smell technology". Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeffrey White Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:31 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches The IC had fertilizer sludge cars (I have no idea what fertilizer sludge is) they converted from SS boxcars they acquired from the Tennessee Coal and Iron Railroad. I haven't got a photo but the diagram sheet says 4 roof hatches and plywood lining. Jeff White Alma, IL On 10/30/2019 9:16 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote: Bob A quick scan of the hard drive shows ACL, ATSF, BAR, BN, CN, CG, CP, D&H, DTI, EL, GN, HS, LV, MILW, MONON, MP, N&W, NS, OAR, PC, PRR, RI, SAL, SCL, SOU, TH&B, UP, and WABASH all had box cars with roof hatches. And that's not a complete list. Tony mentioned the SP, too. Tim On 10/30/2019 5:51 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote: Boxcar With Roof Hatches I've seen a few photos of boxcars with roof hatches for loading such commodities as aluminum dross, cement, various clays, lime and spent grain. All of the photos I've seen are associated with shippers in the Southeast and Midwest. Would such boxcars have served shippers in the Southwest to any degree? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Gang;
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I looked through my materials and only found two instances on the PRR: X29K sub-class with round roof hatches; apparently in loose flour service, and, X31A small number of random cars in coal tar chip service, like the attached I modeled. Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeffrey White Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 12:31 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar With Roof Hatches The IC had fertilizer sludge cars (I have no idea what fertilizer sludge is) they converted from SS boxcars they acquired from the Tennessee Coal and Iron Railroad. I haven't got a photo but the diagram sheet says 4 roof hatches and plywood lining. Jeff White Alma, IL On 10/30/2019 9:16 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote: Bob A quick scan of the hard drive shows ACL, ATSF, BAR, BN, CN, CG, CP, D&H, DTI, EL, GN, HS, LV, MILW, MONON, MP, N&W, NS, OAR, PC, PRR, RI, SAL, SCL, SOU, TH&B, UP, and WABASH all had box cars with roof hatches. And that's not a complete list. Tony mentioned the SP, too. Tim On 10/30/2019 5:51 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote: Boxcar With Roof Hatches I've seen a few photos of boxcars with roof hatches for loading such commodities as aluminum dross, cement, various clays, lime and spent grain. All of the photos I've seen are associated with shippers in the Southeast and Midwest. Would such boxcars have served shippers in the Southwest to any degree? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA -- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches
Jeffrey White
The IC had fertilizer sludge cars (I have no idea what fertilizer sludge is) they converted from SS boxcars they acquired from the Tennessee Coal and Iron Railroad. I haven't got a photo but the diagram sheet says 4 roof hatches and plywood lining. Jeff White Alma, IL
On 10/30/2019 9:16 PM, Tim O'Connor
wrote:
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Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches
mopacfirst
Add T&P, for maybe 5 cars.
Ron Merrick
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Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches
Craig Wilson
Beyond the scope of this list but . . . these cars relate to the subject line and the cars have built dates prior to 1960. In 1965 Canadian National modified 40-foot boxcars with roof hatches for potash loading (Melville Sask). These cars were routed to smaller co-ops and elevators (including in the US) that could not handle the larger 100-ton covered hoppers. The rectangular hatches were underneath the running boards second panel in from the ends. CN 440000-440199: 10-0 IH cars, NSC-2 ends, rectangular panel roof, 6-foot doors, blt 1945 Photo on p. 6 of Canadian Rail Car Pictorial, Vol 2 A, by Richard Yaremko CN 442000-442099: 10-6 IH cars, NSC-3 ends, combination roof*, 8-foot doors, blt 1957 Photo on p. 26 of Canadian Rail Car Pictorial, Vol 2 A, by Richard Yaremko *Interesting looking roof: center panels NSC style (look like PS bowtie panels), second panel in from the ends rectangular shape and have hatches under the running board, outermost panels blank. Elgin Car Shops (Yarmouth) makes a model of the unmodified version of this car. Captions in the books indicate that these car were in service 1965-1990. Craig Wilson
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Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT
WILLIAM PARDIE
Fred this car was converted from the double door auto car. I have both cars. The Overland car was well done except for the underframe. After Lysle last year I drove down to the Monticello Rail Museum where they had an auto car. Wouldn't you know that my camera battery was dead when I got there. Did get some photos on my phone. I questioned the single door version a few years ago on this list and got a great photo from one of the members. I have more information at home but am currently having my morning coffee in San Francisco. Will be home on the weekend if you need any more information. Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Fred Jansz <fred@...> Date: 10/31/19 8:04 AM (GMT-08:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT This 'wooden' ss beauty was in the box. It reminds me of something, but not a steel Wabash dd car. Any idea what it might be? regards Fred Jansz
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Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT
Fred Jansz
Thank you Ben! It's a 76000-series car indeed.
According to BT, OMI made a few variations, probably the previous owner grabbed the wrong box. Now let's see if I can score that steel dd car too! regards Fred Jansz (© picture Brasstrains)
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Re: New Manufacturer
Jon Miller
On 10/30/2019 7:10 AM, Michael Gross
wrote:
Among them, a styrene version of the ATSF Bx 11 — Bx 13 single sheathed box car series. Now that would be a winner! -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User SPROG User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: Chicagoland RPM Handouts
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Are these supposed to be downloadable so they can be printed if desired? If so that does not seem to be working. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT
Paul Doggett
Definitely not SP
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Paul Doggett
On 31 Oct 2019, at 15:04, Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote:
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Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT
Benjamin Hom
Fred Jansz asked: "Received my OMI 'Wabash' steel dd boxcar today...NOT.
This 'wooden' SS beauty was in the box.
It reminds me of something, but not a steel Wabash DD car.
Any idea what it might be?" Notes from Chet French, posted on the Steam Era Freight Cars website: " In 1941, the Wabash converted 239 of the 46000 series auto cars to 6' door cars and numbered them 76000-76238. The roster showed 93 car remaining as of July 1, 1957. They looked similar to the 74000 series 6' door cars converted from the 40000 series auto cars." Ben Hom
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Re: There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT
Joseph
Looks SPish. Maybe a B-50-?? 5-5-5 ends tho.... Joe Binish
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 10:05 AM Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote: Received my OMI 'Wabash' steel dd boxcar today...NOT.
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There's the OMI Wabash steel dd car...eh NOT
Fred Jansz
Received my OMI 'Wabash' steel dd boxcar today...NOT.
This 'wooden' ss beauty was in the box. It reminds me of something, but not a steel Wabash dd car. Any idea what it might be? regards Fred Jansz
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Re: Boxcar With Roof Hatches
Armand Premo
Can we also add those with hopper bottoms.Armand Premo 
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 6:57 AM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
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Re: RPM Chicagoland summary
Lester Breuer
Thank You Eric for your time and effort to take and create the 120 photo gallery. Well done.
Lester Breuer
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