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Type Of Trucks?
These are links to builder's photos of two Santa Fe Bx-37 boxcars: ATSF 144028 http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/pshs/id/19582/rec/14 ATSF 141702 http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/collection/pshs/id/18076/rec/42 What types of trucks are under these cars? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA P.S.: These links are from the Illinois State Library's Digital Archives. There are many freight car (mostly boxcar) photos on this website: http://www.idaillinois.org/digital/ A search for most terms brings up a lot of pages so use the Format Box to narrow down your search to "photograph".
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Re: SOO Line prewar 50 foot double door box car
rwitt_2000
Steve and Dennis, thank you for your replies as they fill-in some gaps in my knowledge of freight cars. I didn't realize Pullman-Standard had this thing and actually built boxcar with interior lengths of 50-ft.
In this period, the depression, my railroad, the B&O, was building experimental and production wagon-top box cars in their own shops and not working much with commercial car builders. Bob Witt
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Re: is "hogging" a correct word for adjusting truss rod equipped cars
David Wiggs
In terms of ships at sea, they exhibit stresses caused by wave action. Two of these are longitudinal stresses; sagging and hogging which caused by a ship heading though waves and troughs. Sagging is when the bow and stern are in the wave peaks and the middle is in a trough which bends the middle down, and hogging conversely, is when the bow and stern are in troughs and the middle is on a wave peak which bends the middle up. So, to tighten the torsion rods to cause an upward bend in the car middle is entirely reasonable to be caused hogging. davo in Orlando
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Re: Precision Scale retainer valve
Mel, Best Regards,
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Re: SOO Line prewar 50 foot double door box car
Dennis Storzek
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 07:19 PM, rwitt_2000 wrote:
Since these cars were constructed for paper or news print service would the shorter interior length of 50'-0" be the result of extra thick end linings?Bob, Steve Hile gave a more complete answer since he has viewed the P-S drawings and I have not, but it's my impression that the 50'-0" IL was a Pullman Standard thing, since the 50' P-S cars with 6' doors built in 1936 share the same IL, with a length over the strikers of 51'-2 1/2". The post war cars the Soo built at North Fond du Lac are 51-10 3/4" over the strikers with a 50'-6" IL, except insulted cars which are shorter inside due to the insulation in the ends. Wandering into the future for a bit, I recall in the eighties, after Wisconsin Central Ltd. took over the old Soo trackage in Wisconsin, they were running the 50' exterior post cars built by the Soo in the sixties, which also had Dreadnaught ends, through the shops to add two reinforcing beams across the lower end to beef them up for roll paper loading. Apparently Dreadnaught ends aren't quite up to the rigors of paper service. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Baltimore & Ohio early diesel lettering font
Jack R. & I put together the initial font and logo offering on the B&O RR Historical Society website 14 years ago. (Goodness, was it that long ago?!) I drew the "13 Great States" logo and Jack did the fonts. We scanned the original blueprints and used them as a guide for creating the digital versions. I've seen the "13 Great States" logo used on various model freight cars which is always tons of fun. Another B&ORRHS member, Kenneth VM, put together the other fonts on the page.
You can find them here: https://borhs.org/Logos/bo_font_logo.html Hopefully they will be of use to you. If you have any questions, let me know and I can hopefully help out. I don't get to the Archvies as much as I would like (kids, job, house, etc. get in the way) but I'm only 30m away so I can run up there if more material is needed. ____________________________________________________________ Ben Sullivan Brookeville, MD Researching & Modeling the Georgetown Branch of the B&O in HO scale http://sluggyjunx.com/rr/gb/
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Re: Precision Scale retainer valve
Bryian Sones
Ah yes, I purchase a lot of stuff from their ebay store. Good to hear and know they are the owners. They have good customer service and very prompt shipping. Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 08:56:55 PM PDT, Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 07:26 PM, mel perry wrote: precision scale was purchased by theThey've also done business for years as PF&S Railway Supply, as both a distributor and retail shop. I agree, good people. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Hey buddy, I got your Galvanized Pipe Load. . .
what a gorgeous shot! I built two of the shorter ATSF flats from the Sunshine kits, with those amazing underframes. this one is a 50 footer! nice.
On 10/22/2019 5:05 PM, Bill Welch wrote:
Clark Propst shared this photo with me a few years ago: ATSF 90725 found in Manly, Iowa on 7-13-67. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Precision Scale retainer valve
Dennis Storzek
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 07:26 PM, mel perry wrote:
precision scale was purchased by theThey've also done business for years as PF&S Railway Supply, as both a distributor and retail shop. I agree, good people. Dennis Storzek
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Re: SOO Line prewar 50 foot double door box car
Bob,
Frank purchased the General Arrangement drawing from IRM
Pullman Library to create his masters. Copies of that drawing are
available for purchase by anyone, just as Frank did. The drawings at IRM
are still the property of Bombardier and they do not allow them to be posted on
line. Each purchaser must agree to a license created by Bombardier
stipulating this.
I have seen the drawing. The inside length is 50'0" and
the length over the underframe end sills is 50'2-1/4". The side lining
boards are 25/32 thick by 3-1/4 inches wide. The side linings are nailed
to 3 by 3 posts. The 3x3's are recessed into the dreadnaught ends. I
don't see a dimensions on the end lining, but it is certainly thin, like the
side lining.
Hope this helps.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of rwitt_2000 via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 9:20 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] SOO Line prewar 50 foot double door box car Since these cars were constructed for paper or news print service would the shorter interior length of 50'-0" be the result of extra thick end linings? I am curious what do the drawings show? Bob Witt
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Re: Precision Scale retainer valve
mel perry
precision scale was purchased by the prantiles of eltopia, wa, (spokane)they also have a epay shop, j-tprantiles, good people to deal with mel perry
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 6:11 PM Bryian Sones via Groups.Io <bryian.sones=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: SOO Line prewar 50 foot double door box car
rwitt_2000
Dennis,
Since these cars were constructed for paper or news print service would the shorter interior length of 50'-0" be the result of extra thick end linings? I am curious what do the drawings show? Bob Witt
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Re: Precision Scale retainer valve
Bryian Sones
Ah, ok. Thanks Jack! I'll call Precision Scale direct as you suggested tomorrow. I appreciate the response. Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 06:36:31 PM PDT, Jack Burgess <jack@...> wrote:
I think that they were purchased by a different hobby shop.
Jack
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bryian Sones via Groups.Io
Wasn't Precision Scale purchased by Blue Ridge Hobbies? If this correct I was told the were dropping this product from their offerings.
Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 05:47:00 PM PDT, Jack Burgess <jack@...> wrote:
Here is their website…just call them and order what you need…
https://www.precisionscaleco.com/
Jack Burgess
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bryian Sones via Groups.Io
Hello All,
I'm low on stock of the 585-31796 Retainer Valves. Does anyone know a hobby shop that still has these?
Thanks,
Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Saturday, October 19, 2019, 12:38:14 AM PDT, Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote:
Thanks all for good advise.
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Re: Precision Scale retainer valve
Jack Burgess
I think that they were purchased by a different hobby shop.
Jack
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bryian Sones via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 6:09 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Precision Scale retainer valve
Wasn't Precision Scale purchased by Blue Ridge Hobbies? If this correct I was told the were dropping this product from their offerings.
Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 05:47:00 PM PDT, Jack Burgess <jack@...> wrote:
Here is their website…just call them and order what you need…
https://www.precisionscaleco.com/
Jack Burgess
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bryian Sones via Groups.Io
Hello All,
I'm low on stock of the 585-31796 Retainer Valves. Does anyone know a hobby shop that still has these?
Thanks,
Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Saturday, October 19, 2019, 12:38:14 AM PDT, Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote:
Thanks all for good advise.
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Re: Precision Scale retainer valve
Bryian Sones
They are also sold out. Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 06:09:40 PM PDT, Bryian Sones via Groups.Io <bryian.sones@...> wrote:
Wasn't Precision Scale purchased by Blue Ridge Hobbies? If this correct I was told the were dropping this product from their offerings. Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 05:47:00 PM PDT, Jack Burgess <jack@...> wrote:
Here is their website…just call them and order what you need…
https://www.precisionscaleco.com/
Jack Burgess
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bryian Sones via Groups.Io
Hello All,
I'm low on stock of the 585-31796 Retainer Valves. Does anyone know a hobby shop that still has these?
Thanks,
Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Saturday, October 19, 2019, 12:38:14 AM PDT, Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote:
Thanks all for good advise.
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Re: Precision Scale retainer valve
Bryian Sones
Wasn't Precision Scale purchased by Blue Ridge Hobbies? If this correct I was told the were dropping this product from their offerings. Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 05:47:00 PM PDT, Jack Burgess <jack@...> wrote:
Here is their website…just call them and order what you need…
https://www.precisionscaleco.com/
Jack Burgess
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bryian Sones via Groups.Io
Hello All,
I'm low on stock of the 585-31796 Retainer Valves. Does anyone know a hobby shop that still has these?
Thanks,
Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Saturday, October 19, 2019, 12:38:14 AM PDT, Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote:
Thanks all for good advise.
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Re: Precision Scale retainer valve
Jack Burgess
Here is their website…just call them and order what you need…
https://www.precisionscaleco.com/
Jack Burgess
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bryian Sones via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 5:24 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Precision Scale retainer valve
Hello All,
I'm low on stock of the 585-31796 Retainer Valves. Does anyone know a hobby shop that still has these?
Thanks,
Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Saturday, October 19, 2019, 12:38:14 AM PDT, Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote:
Thanks all for good advise.
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Re: Precision Scale retainer valve
mel perry
as a suggestion, try precisiion scale, they are up and runniing mel perry
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 5:24 PM Bryian Sones via Groups.Io <bryian.sones=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Precision Scale retainer valve
Bryian Sones
Hello All, I'm low on stock of the 585-31796 Retainer Valves. Does anyone know a hobby shop that still has these? Thanks, Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Saturday, October 19, 2019, 12:38:14 AM PDT, Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote:
Thanks all for good advise. best regards, Fred Jansz
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Re: is "hogging" a correct word for adjusting truss rod equipped cars
Robert kirkham
Thanks for the responses on this – I learned something! From now on, tightening will be my word choice.
Rob
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 4:48 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] is "hogging" a correct word for adjusting truss rod equipped cars
Dennis Storzek wrote, "The modern term in car building is camber" and that is the same term that has been used for heavy haul trailers for years as well. One can see then on any Interstate in the US and Canada any day they choose. On automobiles, however, the term hjas a different meaning.
Cordially, Don Valentine
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