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Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
al_brown03
The TKX bolsters sure look like Standard Tank designs. I wish one could see the YS&T bolsters a little more from the side: that "porthole" in the bolster is a Standard Tank spotting feature.
Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
earlyrail
Here is another tank that looks the same Howard Garner
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Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
Jack Mullen
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 07:35 PM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:
See also the image below, from the Republic Steel collecion, showing ERIE stock cars apparently used for loading pig iron. And when the driver think he safely on the other side
He shouts back down the line to the man and he says I fooled you, I fooled you I got pig iron, I got pig iron I got all pig iron You just can't mention stock cars and pig iron without invoking Lonnie Donegan. Jack Mullen
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Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
Tony Thompson
Steve Hile wrote:
Certainly during the 1920s STC was far bigger than PTC, and we know that zPTC bought tanks from STC to put on its own underframes. But the early high-walkway tanks we are discussing are not likely to be part of that situation. They seem to me far more likely to be PTC cars. Tony Thompson
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Re: Various Steel Industry Loads
Cool photo but it’s mid-late 60’s at the earliest with EL hoppers, gothic P&LE and boxcar with the removed roofwalk. The load restraints would be different in earlier times.
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Brian J. Carlson
On Sep 21, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
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Re: Various Steel Industry Loads
Jon Miller
On 9/21/2019 11:12 AM, Bob Chaparro
via Groups.Io wrote:
Also visible are loads of steel coils, beams and plates. The ends of the flats are interesting. Don't
think I have ever seen that before. Also for scenery the old
track on the left of the photo is really a neat idea. -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, SPROG, JMRI User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
There was some symbiotic relationship between Pennsylvania
Tank Car Company and Standard Tank Car Company, with PTC being the older (1914
versus 1919). I had some discussions after publishing the UTLX book over
the identification of the Ohio Cities Gas Company, International Refinery tank
cars shown on page 135. It seems more likely that those cars (and the
Youngstown Sheet and Tube car being discussed) were built by PTC before STC
really got going. STC continued to use the heavy built up underframe and
tank saddle with the lowered running boards while PTC came up with a new
underframe design in the 1920's.
GATC eventually purchased both and concentrated activity at
the Sharon, PA STC plant.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bruce Smith Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 10:30 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car David,
My
first impression was that the frame was classic Standard Tank Car, not PTC. To
me, the bolsters scream STC. Can you clarify as to why you think it is
PTC?
Regards,
Bruce
Smith
Auburn,
AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
<main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of David via Groups.Io
<jaydeet2001@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:44 AM To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car YS&T 110 is the type of car that Pennsylvania Tank Car
was building in the early-mid Teens. The car behind it appear to be an early (pre-1917) GATC tank. David Thompson
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Various Steel Industry Loads
Various Steel Industry Loads An undated photo from the Ohio Memory website: https://ohiomemory.org/digital/collection/p15005coll10/id/2993/rec/13 Description: "Ladles loaded on train cars for shipment made by the William B. Pollock Company." Also visible are loads of steel coils, beams and plates. And my thanks to Claus Schlund for finding the Ohio Memory website. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Standard Car Co.??
Dave Lawler
Thank you to everyone who aimed me in the right direction for Standard Car Co.
I've been in contact with Don Valentine and sent an order for some half door conversion kits this morning. Fenton that is a great looking GTW car. Best regards, Dave Lawler
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Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
David,
My first impression was that the frame was classic Standard Tank Car, not PTC. To me, the bolsters scream STC. Can you clarify as to why you think it is PTC?
Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of David via Groups.Io <jaydeet2001@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 7:44 AM To: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io> Subject: [RealSTMFC] Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car YS&T 110 is the type of car that Pennsylvania Tank Car was building in
the early-mid Teens. The car behind it appear to be an early (pre-1917) GATC tank. David Thompson
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Re: Monon Box Cars
al_brown03
Hi Armand,
A few published photos of CIL 9000-9449: all have 6' 7-panel Superior doors. The '91, '01, and '05 MM articles are kitbashes by Mont Switzer. CIL 9157, 9294: MRG 9-10/84 p 11 CIL 9147: Dolzall, "Monon", p 99 CIL 9179: MM 12/91 pp 58-61 CIL 9046, 9427: MM 9/01 pp 50-53 CIL 9271: MM 12/95 p41 CIL 9094: Bowden, "Modoc", p 146 CIL 9225, 9283: MM 11/05 pp 59-62. Best, AL B.
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Monon Box Cars
Armand Premo
Need information as to the type of doors on the 9000 9100 series Boxcars .Armand Premo
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Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
David
YS&T 110 is the type of car that Pennsylvania Tank Car was building in the early-mid Teens. The car behind it appear to be an early (pre-1917) GATC tank.
David Thompson
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Re: Question for Al Brown on Southern war emergency hopper
al_brown03
No construction photos … most I can say is I *think* each overlay is a single piece, scored.
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Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Claus,
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I'm pretty sure this ISN'T an AC&F type 11 car. The lack of end platforms and the shape of the tank support/bolsters speak against this. There were a number of knock-off high-walkway tank car designs from other manufacturers, but AFAIK this topic has not been well researched. High walkway do not always mean AC&F. Maybe our tank car geeks can comment further. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
On 9/20/2019 11:46 PM, Claus Schlund
\(HGM\) wrote:
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Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
There is a second image showing this car, unusual
underframe design...
Claus Schlund
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Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
I wish we had a little better focus on this image,
but there is still a lot to be seen in this yard view. Click on image and use
on-screen tools to enlarge.
Claus Schlund
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Re: Round roof double door boxcar
Randy Hammill
I have a couple of the Nickel Plate Products brass ones that I will redetail with Bowser parts. The floor casting fits nicely, and the doors are better as well.
Randy -- — Randy Hammill Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954 http://newbritainstation.com
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Re: Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
See also the image below, from the Republic Steel
collecion, showing ERIE stock cars apparently used for loading pig
iron.
Claus Schlund
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Youngstown Sheet & Tube tank car
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Some might enjoy this image of this Youngstown
Sheet & Tube tank car YS&T 110.
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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