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An update from Yarmouth Model Works

Pierre Oliver
 

https://elgincarshops.blogspot.com/2020/03/covid-19-and-yarmouth-model-works.html

Be safe everyone, we will get through this

--
Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com


Re: PRR F34 flat

Dave Boss
 

  Chuck
               I very much enjoyed your article on the F34 flat. You did an excellent job on the kit bash. I agree that the operation is the most important aspect of this car. All I was looking for was how the brake parts supplied with kit are to be arranged so as to be able to assemble them properly. F&C doesn't really give you a good explanation or diagram as to how they are installed. Hopefully it will operate as well as yours once the parts are properly mounted on. I will have to contact the PRRT&HS about this tracing. Thank you for your help on this  matter.

Good Day
Dave

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 3:54 PM Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Group,

 

A couple of comments on my kit-bashing the F34.  At the time I began to think about this project, F&C had not yet brought out their nice F34 kit.  Before building the kit-bash, I ordered, from the PRRT&HS, tracings of the car so that I could better understand what I needed to do to model it from the Athearn/Bachman model.  These tracings are relatively inexpensive and give great detail on the car.  One can order just the tracings for the air brake details.

 

All of my kit-bash projects, as well as all of my resin builds, are built so that they reliably will operate on my layout.  I try to get as close to prototypical as I can, but operations is more important to me than to get every detail perfect.  Thus when kit-bashing the F34, I looked at photos and attempted to place the visible brake details in the appropriate locations, however, I needed to find a way to do it so that the triple valve and brake cylinder did not interfere with how the car tracked.  This is detailed in the article.  Most of the brake detail is not visible anyway so I installed just those two components and called it a day.  The car tracks perfectly and runs well without a load and has been doing so for almost 3 years during my monthly operating sessions, so for me, it was a success.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Re: PRR F34 flat

Dave Boss
 

Bruce
           Thank you for your response. I have referenced the TKM articles. Unfortunately they do not show any of the duel brake arrangements. F&C is very vague on their instructions. I referenced my 1940 car builder cyclopedia as well with no luck. I'm not going to super detail the underside as it is not visible. However some of the brake detail is visible in some photos, but not clear enough to see how they are arranged. I have no idea how to arrange the brake components parts onto the span bolsters? There are no indications on them to show as to were the parts mite go. F&C just states install them when you get to this point. You mentioned the PRRT&HS flat car book do you know if the book provides any kind of brake arrangement for the cars? If I knew the book listed them I would look for a copy as I don't currently own one. I believe the society has sold them out.

          On another note I did find out that the D&H version of this car that I posted a question on a while back is the same car as a NYC car. They showed up in my 1953 car builders cyclopedia. Both were built 1951.

Good Day
Dave

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 1:50 PM Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
Dave,

Some resources:
TKM 104 - http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm  this is an article by Chuck Cover kit bashing the Bachmann car, but it will show you gross brake locations. 

TKM 108 - My article on etched decks. Not much about brakes here, but if you look at the deck drawings, you can see the mounting bolts for what I believe is the AB valve.

The PRRT&HS flat car book - http://www.prrths.com/estore/index_books.html
Sadly, the shots in that book are mostly dark about the underbody.


Based on looking at the photos online (above) it looks like Chuck has his cylinder mounted too high on the bolster and he needs to add a reservoir to the bolster.

And, of course, you need a full set of brake hardware on each end.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Dave Boss <daveboss1976@...>
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:20 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] PRR F34 flat
 
Hello Guy's
                   I'm currently building a F&C PRR F34 flat car. The instructions are very vague about the placement of brake components. If anyone has any info on the placement of the brake parts I would deeply appreciate this as I'm at a stand still with this car. I know some of the parts are to be installed on the span bolsters but I'm not sure of their placement. Thank's

Good Day
Dave


Re: Yellow NC&StL 2-Bay Hopper. . .

O Fenton Wells
 

Bill it looks fantastic.  Impressive, please show us the finished product
Fenton

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 6:04 PM Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
. . .that's not right. Well no but it is just primer. Following up on George Toman's lead I primed my Tichy kit NC&StL USRA hopper copy w/Stynylrez Neutral Yellow prior to shooting it with Modelflex Oxide Red. The yellow really shows off the various improvements: properly shaped Sill Steps using A-Line parts; train line and brackets; NBW's added to the grab irons on the left ends of the sides; and reduced thickness bolster ends visible on the sides. On the ends NBW's have been added for the ladder grabs, end sill grabs and right side grabs; .005 styrene to create brake shaft support; NBW to the tp of the brake wheel; and Precision Scale Retainer valve and .010 wire for its air line.

Bill Welch



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: Yellow NC&StL 2-Bay Hopper. . .

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Great looking!  You ARE the man!
 
Steve Hile



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Welch
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:07 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Yellow NC&StL 2-Bay Hopper. . .

. . .that's not right. Well no but it is just primer. Following up on George Toman's lead I primed my Tichy kit NC&StL USRA hopper copy w/Stynylrez Neutral Yellow prior to shooting it with Modelflex Oxide Red. The yellow really shows off the various improvements: properly shaped Sill Steps using A-Line parts; train line and brackets; NBW's added to the grab irons on the left ends of the sides; and reduced thickness bolster ends visible on the sides. On the ends NBW's have been added for the ladder grabs, end sill grabs and right side grabs; .005 styrene to create brake shaft support; NBW to the tp of the brake wheel; and Precision Scale Retainer valve and .010 wire for its air line.

Bill Welch


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Bill Welch
 

Jeff, Is it time for members to pony up with money for more capacity? I remember this being a possibility when the group moved.

Bill Welch


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Bill Welch
 

My photos were/are JPEGs Garth

Bill Welch


Re: pdf attachment errors

poweredby251
 

I've had similar experiences.  I get the digest version, and if I'm reading it the same day I receive it I'm fine.  Any later and any attachments default to the group home page.  

John Gadow
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Group/ moderator, Lately I am unable to open pdf attachment to received messages and instead land on the group home page. Seem to happen about every other digest. Anyone else having this problem? Assistance appreciated. jgcat1at cox dot net.


Re: WTB: Tennessee Central Boxcar Decals

Larry Wolohon
 

Norm doesn't list HO TC boxcar decals on his website, it is possible I would think to get them done in HO. Protocraft's decals are done by Microscale. How big a quantity is the question. Larry Wolohon

On March 19, 2020 at 7:15 PM Richard Brennan <rbrennan@tt-west.com> wrote:


Protocraft has them in 1:48...
<https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=965&Categoryid=20>https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=965&Categoryid=20

...but they seem to be doing some sets in 1:87.1
as well. Perhaps an inquiry there?

--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
--------------------

At 02:19 PM 3/19/2020, Allen Cain wrote:
I am looking for a set of HO scale decals for a
Tennessee Central Boxcar in the 7900-7999 series
that would be appropriate for 1955. If you
have any, please let me know off list.
I know that Campbell Road made a set of dry
transfers WT-29 but I believe these to be the
later block lettering scheme but do not have a set to check.

Or if you know of a source, I would appreciate getting the lead from you.




Re: WTB: Tennessee Central Boxcar Decals

Larry Wolohon
 

Protocraft's TC set is for 1937 AAR boxcar. Larry Wolohon

On March 20, 2020 at 4:22 AM Barry Bennett <barrybennetttoo@...> wrote:

Beware of the Protocraft decals as these are for a refurbished/rebuilt version with steel running boards and a diagonal panel roof.

Barry Bennett, UK.

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 23:15, Richard Brennan < rbrennan@...> wrote:
Protocraft has them in 1:48...
< https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=965&Categoryid=20> https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=965&Categoryid=20

...but they seem to be doing some sets in 1:87.1
as well.  Perhaps an inquiry there?

--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
--------------------

At 02:19 PM 3/19/2020, Allen Cain wrote:
>I am looking for a set of HO scale decals for a
>Tennessee Central Boxcar in the 7900-7999 series
>that would be appropriate for 1955.  If you
>have any, please let me know off list.
>I know that Campbell Road made a set of dry
>transfers WT-29 but I believe these to be the
>later block lettering scheme but do not have a set to check.
>
>Or if you know of a source, I would appreciate getting the lead from you.






 


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Aley, Jeff A
 

Bill,

 

               Thanks for bringing this to my attention.  RealSTMFC is currently using 2.2GB of Photos space, out of an allotment of 1.0GB (yep, we’re using twice as much space as allowed).  I believe it is for this reason that groups.io deletes attachments after a relatively short period of time.

 

               I’ll talk w/ Mr. Brock and see what we can do.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Welch
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:12 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Priming w/Yellow

 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 06:53 PM, Bill Welch wrote:

Just primed my M-K-T company built War Emergency boxcar w/Badger's Neutral Yellow primer.

Bill Welch


 Moderators, I notice the photos I posted with this message seem to have disappeared.

Bill Welch


Re: PRR F34 flat

Chuck Cover
 

Group,

 

A couple of comments on my kit-bashing the F34.  At the time I began to think about this project, F&C had not yet brought out their nice F34 kit.  Before building the kit-bash, I ordered, from the PRRT&HS, tracings of the car so that I could better understand what I needed to do to model it from the Athearn/Bachman model.  These tracings are relatively inexpensive and give great detail on the car.  One can order just the tracings for the air brake details.

 

All of my kit-bash projects, as well as all of my resin builds, are built so that they reliably will operate on my layout.  I try to get as close to prototypical as I can, but operations is more important to me than to get every detail perfect.  Thus when kit-bashing the F34, I looked at photos and attempted to place the visible brake details in the appropriate locations, however, I needed to find a way to do it so that the triple valve and brake cylinder did not interfere with how the car tracked.  This is detailed in the article.  Most of the brake detail is not visible anyway so I installed just those two components and called it a day.  The car tracks perfectly and runs well without a load and has been doing so for almost 3 years during my monthly operating sessions, so for me, it was a success.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Eric and Bill,

I've never had a problem adding jpeg images, but it didn't work with tiff format.

Yours Aye,

Garth Groff  🦆


On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 3:22 PM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

I’ve noticed the same on other messages here.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Welch
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Priming w/Yellow

 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 06:53 PM, Bill Welch wrote:

Just primed my M-K-T company built War Emergency boxcar w/Badger's Neutral Yellow primer.

Bill Welch


 Moderators, I notice the photos I posted with this message seem to have disappeared.

Bill Welch


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Dave Parker
 

I think Bill's pix are still in the stream of emailed photos (see Photos on the groups.io page).  Bu they no longer seem to be attached to his original message, or this thread.

????
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Eric Hansmann
 

I’ve noticed the same on other messages here.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Welch
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 2:12 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Priming w/Yellow

 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 06:53 PM, Bill Welch wrote:

Just primed my M-K-T company built War Emergency boxcar w/Badger's Neutral Yellow primer.

Bill Welch


 Moderators, I notice the photos I posted with this message seem to have disappeared.

Bill Welch


Re: Priming w/Yellow

Bill Welch
 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 06:53 PM, Bill Welch wrote:
Just primed my M-K-T company built War Emergency boxcar w/Badger's Neutral Yellow primer.

Bill Welch

 Moderators, I notice the photos I posted with this message seem to have disappeared.

Bill Welch


Re: New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

    This one I hope.  Ordered five years ago.


-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Intermountain Deco end XM'x and others For Sale

Rod Miller
 

On 3/20/20 11:35 AM, Ted Schnepf wrote:
Hello,
Got in the new arrivals from Intermountain this past week.
Included are 3 boxcars with the distinctive Deco ends. They are a B&O ( with
the capital herald), C&O original paint and C&O "For Progress" lettering. Each
come in 6 numbers
[snip]

Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet
,Elgin, Ill. 60120
847=697-5353
I have the Yoder version of this car in O scale for sale. The box label:
"1937 AA Standard 40' Steel Sheathed Box Car Deco End". "For Progress"
scheme, road number 5452. Car is a brass import, wheel treads were
polished in a lathe, lightly weathered. $325 + S&H, CA residents add sales tax.

--
Rod Miller
Handcraftsman
===
Custom 2-rail O Scale Models: Drives,
Repairs, Steam Loco Building, More
http://www.rodmiller.com


Intermountain Deco end XM'x and others For Sale

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

Got in the new arrivals from Intermountain this past week.

Included are 3 boxcars with the distinctive Deco ends. They are a B&O ( with the capital herald), C&O original paint and C&O "For Progress" lettering. Each come in 6 numbers

Other cars include the C&EI yellow with blue lettering and single digit numbers and different slogans for passenger trains (five numbers). A couple unique shortlines. Copper Range from Michigan's upper peninsula and Atlantic & East Carolina with an attractive herald. Two Canadian cars with NSC-2 ends for Ontario Northland and CN. And then to round out the shipment new cars for Lackwana and NYC in Jade green,

All cars are new for IM.

All are at discounted pricing. Inquire off list.

Rails Unlimited

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet
,Elgin, Ill. 60120

847=697-5353


Re: New '37 AAR box cars with Deco and NSC-2 ends

Tony Thompson
 

 Jon Miller wrote:

    My dealer says his shipment should arrive next week.  Then he has to ship to me.  I will post a shot of my C&O if nobody has posted before.

   You mean this one?

Tony Thompson


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