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Re: Reboxx test set availble

C J Wyatt
 

Reboxx item has been purchased. Thanks everyone for your consideration.

Jack Wyatt

On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 06:48:39 PM EDT, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:


Since I am leaving HO, I am disposing of items which I do not need anymore.

I just put a Reboxx ten wheelset test set on eBay fixed price. I also am including a partial pack (8 left of 12) of nominal 1.030" wheelsets (they measure more like 1.027").

Just searching on Reboxx should get you there. If the price is higher than you wish to pay, please become a watcher. If they do not sell and I have several watchers, I will incrementally lower the price until someone is happy.

I hate posting items for sale, but I feel like  someone on the list would be happy to get them.

Jack Wyatt


Re: An update from Yarmouth Model Works

Bill Welch
 

I purchased mine months ago from the dealer Pierre provided the link for. F&C had them on their table at the C'ville RPM.

Bill Welch


Re: Reboxx test set availble

C J Wyatt
 

I am sorry that the email went out to the group. I thought I was replying privately. I have to be more careful about those things.

Jack Wyatt

On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 07:12:37 PM EDT, C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:


Hi Ken, I appreciate the interest. I am sorry that you can't do eBay. If it does not sell in a few days, I might take it off. I will let you know if I do.

Best Regards,

Jack

On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 07:06:40 PM EDT, ken chapin <alcobackshop@...> wrote:


I don't do eBay so that leaves me out
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On 8/10/19, 6:48 PM C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:
Since I am leaving HO, I am disposing of items which I do not need anymore.

I just put a Reboxx ten wheelset test set on eBay fixed price. I also am including a partial pack (8 left of 12) of nominal 1.030" wheelsets (they measure more like 1.027").

Just searching on Reboxx should get you there. If the price is higher than you wish to pay, please become a watcher. If they do not sell and I have several watchers, I will incrementally lower the price until someone is happy.

I hate posting items for sale, but I feel like  someone on the list would be happy to get them.

Jack Wyatt


Re: Reboxx test set availble

C J Wyatt
 

Hi Ken, I appreciate the interest. I am sorry that you can't do eBay. If it does not sell in a few days, I might take it off. I will let you know if I do.

Best Regards,

Jack

On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 07:06:40 PM EDT, ken chapin <alcobackshop@...> wrote:


I don't do eBay so that leaves me out
--
Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
On 8/10/19, 6:48 PM C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:
Since I am leaving HO, I am disposing of items which I do not need anymore.

I just put a Reboxx ten wheelset test set on eBay fixed price. I also am including a partial pack (8 left of 12) of nominal 1.030" wheelsets (they measure more like 1.027").

Just searching on Reboxx should get you there. If the price is higher than you wish to pay, please become a watcher. If they do not sell and I have several watchers, I will incrementally lower the price until someone is happy.

I hate posting items for sale, but I feel like  someone on the list would be happy to get them.

Jack Wyatt


Re: Reboxx test set availble

ken chapin
 

I don't do eBay so that leaves me out
--
Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

On 8/10/19, 6:48 PM C J Wyatt <cjwyatt@...> wrote:
Since I am leaving HO, I am disposing of items which I do not need anymore.

I just put a Reboxx ten wheelset test set on eBay fixed price. I also am including a partial pack (8 left of 12) of nominal 1.030" wheelsets (they measure more like 1.027").

Just searching on Reboxx should get you there. If the price is higher than you wish to pay, please become a watcher. If they do not sell and I have several watchers, I will incrementally lower the price until someone is happy.

I hate posting items for sale, but I feel like  someone on the list would be happy to get them.

Jack Wyatt


Reboxx test set availble

C J Wyatt
 

Since I am leaving HO, I am disposing of items which I do not need anymore.

I just put a Reboxx ten wheelset test set on eBay fixed price. I also am including a partial pack (8 left of 12) of nominal 1.030" wheelsets (they measure more like 1.027").

Just searching on Reboxx should get you there. If the price is higher than you wish to pay, please become a watcher. If they do not sell and I have several watchers, I will incrementally lower the price until someone is happy.

I hate posting items for sale, but I feel like  someone on the list would be happy to get them.

Jack Wyatt


Re: An update from Yarmouth Model Works

Robert J Miller CFA
 

Jared.

Search on Shapeways. I’ll bet somebody offers something similar 3-D printed.


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Jared Harper <harperandbrown@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 5:12:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] An update from Yarmouth Model Works
 
Who will be the first to offer this in resin?

Jared Harper


Re: An update from Yarmouth Model Works

Jared Harper
 

Who will be the first to offer this in resin?

Jared Harper


2 Books for sale

Scott H. Haycock
 

I have 2 books by Edward S. Kaminski for sale. Both books are in excellent condition.

"Tank Cars- American Car & Foundry Company, 1865 to 1955", published by Signature Press in 2003.

"Pullman Standard Freight Cars, 1900- 1960", also published by Signature Press in 2007.

I'm asking $55.00 each, including Media Mail shipping to the lower 48 states. If you want $60.00 insurance, add $3.00.

Please contact me Off List if interested.

Scott Haycock


Re: An update from Yarmouth Model Works

Tim O'Connor
 


Fully covered, partially covered, and uncovered - I have photos of all types. :-)

Tim O'



On 8/10/2019 1:43 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:

Jon,

 

Some, such as the engines, might be shipped covered, but others, such as the presses, ladels, transformers, etc, were often shipped naked.


Regards,
Bruce


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 12:15 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] An update from Yarmouth Model Works
 
On 8/10/2019 9:58 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Pierre, your link also led me towards a bunch of very impressive looking industrial loads!
We may be into the Golden Age of open loads now. :-)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303197478401
Perfect for flatcar load or your industrial cogeneration plant model. Accurate model of 16 cylinder industrial lean-burn natural gas engine - 5000 HP 285L. Imagine your layout with this engine on a heavy duty or depressed flatcar headed for your power plant model or large industrial facility.


    While these are very impressive, wouldn't they most likely be shipped covered?  Canvas or something?

-- 
Jon Miller


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: An update from Yarmouth Model Works

Bruce Smith
 

Tim,


My bad!  I was working from someone calling the trucks depicted in the photo "Elsey" trucks, and those are PRR 2D-F17 and 2D-F17A, and indeed those trucks are found under X37 and X328 series cars! 


HOWEVER, I know realize that while odd looking, these are NOT Elsey trucks. The trucks in question in the STMFC posts are indeed 2D-F24 Buckeye all-service trucks and those are the trucks being sold by F&C.  Now for some Elsey trucks as well 😉


Regards

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL




From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 11:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] An update from Yarmouth Model Works
 

Bruce,

Someone else called these 2D-F24 trucks, according to my notes. Are you sure
about your classification? I just want to correct my notes if necessary.

Tim O'



On 8/10/2019 9:48 AM, Bruce Smith wrote:

Folks,

To expand on Tim's comment, these trucks were know as Elsey trucks, class 2D-F17 on the PRR. They are not shown on the F&C web page, but they do have them, so call and ask.


Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, Al 




From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 9:39 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] An update from Yarmouth Model Works
 

Buckeye trucks. The PRR had them as well. F&C makes castings for them.



On 8/9/2019 10:26 PM, Roger Huber via Groups.Io wrote:
The car with the trucks I was asking about is the one on the blog #48826. Very strange trucks I am not familiar with.




Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Friday, August 9, 2019, 09:15:12 PM CDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



I love the B-5 too, although I hesitate to call it the most homely. There
are plenty of candidates for that title! :-D

Photos shows the B-5's with at least FIVE different trucks

1. Buckeye, that Pierre mentioned (date 1956)
2. Allied Full Cushion (1951)
3. National Type B (date 1959)
4. AAR trucks - no spring plank, widely spaced two front springs (1942 builder, etc)
5. AAR trucks - no spring plank, three front springs (1941 builder)


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Railway express agency (was LCL)

Tony Thompson
 

Charles Peck wrote:

A barge line could not own a railroad and vice versa.  This largely kept the railroads out of the interstate trucking business. In many places they were allowed to do local delivery but even this was often done on a contract basis.

  This was true, but not impossible to circumvent. SP's Pacific Motor Trucking held franchises in several adjoining Western states, and though a trailer could not be hauled across state lines in a single move, it could be dropped off near the line and attached to a tractor of the arrival state to continue its route.
     At the time of World War I and the USRA, there were seven major and a few minor express companies (already hurting when the postal Parcel Post had been expanded in 1913) were combined under USRA auspices into a single company, American Railway Express Co. During the 1920s, the ICC urged railroads to acquire ARE, and in 1929 they did, and 69 major railroads owned the REA stock, while minor railroads participated in REA though owning no stock.
     You may have noted that builder photos of express reefers in the 1920s showed the ARE lettering.

Tony Thompson




Re: An update from Yarmouth Model Works

Bruce Smith
 

Jon,

 

Some, such as the engines, might be shipped covered, but others, such as the presses, ladels, transformers, etc, were often shipped naked.


Regards,
Bruce


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 12:15 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] An update from Yarmouth Model Works
 
On 8/10/2019 9:58 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Pierre, your link also led me towards a bunch of very impressive looking industrial loads!
We may be into the Golden Age of open loads now. :-)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303197478401
www.ebay.com
Perfect for flatcar load or your industrial cogeneration plant model. Accurate model of 16 cylinder industrial lean-burn natural gas engine - 5000 HP 285L. Imagine your layout with this engine on a heavy duty or depressed flatcar headed for your power plant model or large industrial facility.


    While these are very impressive, wouldn't they most likely be shipped covered?  Canvas or something?

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: An update from Yarmouth Model Works

Jon Miller
 

On 8/10/2019 9:58 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Pierre, your link also led me towards a bunch of very impressive looking industrial loads!
We may be into the Golden Age of open loads now. :-)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303197478401

    While these are very impressive, wouldn't they most likely be shipped covered?  Canvas or something?

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Railway express agency (was LCL)

Tim O'Connor
 

Lee

In those times, interstate regulation was very extensive. Ever see the ICC building
in Washington? It's MASSIVE.

But from 1929 onwards REA was owned by a consortium of railroads with shares proportional
to the amount of express revenues of the 69 owners. From 1961 onwards the REA leased space
on railroad trains and kept 50% of the profits (previously 90% of profits went to the owner
railroads) and the ICC (in the 1960's) prohibited REA from operating all-truck services and
only allowed them to use trucks in conjunction with rail service. This prevented REA from
becoming UPS or Fedex. :-(

As the first major "corporations" in America the railroads were subjected to the greatest
amount of regulation as corporate and anti-trust laws (and unions) were invented during the
100 years after the Civil War. These conditions really circumscribed the railroads' business
and severely limited them. The rest, as they say, is history.

Tim



On 8/10/2019 12:52 PM, Lee Thwaits wrote:
Was  REA legally tied to the railroads?  I always wondered why it didn't become a trucking competitor to UPS.
Lee Thwaits


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Railway express agency (was LCL)

Charles Peck
 

REA was owned by the railroads.  The Interstate Commerce Commission had rules about carriers competing against themselves and regulated other carriers as well.  Although they did at times make exceptions on a case by case basis, generally they watched out for anti-competitive situations. 
A barge line could not own a railroad and vice versa.  This largely kept the railroads out of the interstate trucking business. In many places they were allowed to do local delivery but even this was often done on a contract basis.
The rules were lawyer-complex but this is the best understanding I have of it.
Chuck Peck

On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 12:54 PM Lee Thwaits <leeoldsa@...> wrote:
Was  REA legally tied to the railroads?  I always wondered why it didn't
become a trucking competitor to UPS.
Lee Thwaits




Re: Railway express agency (was LCL)

Dennis Storzek
 

I believe REA was owned by a consortium of railroads same as the Pullman Company in its last years.

Dennis Storzek


An update from Yarmouth Model Works

David
 

What happened to cause the blister at the top door panel?
Probably a load shifted/fell over enough to dent the door.

David Thompson


Re: An update from Yarmouth Model Works

Tim O'Connor
 


Pierre, your link also led me towards a bunch of very impressive looking industrial loads!
We may be into the Golden Age of open loads now. :-)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303197478401

Tim O'Connor



On 8/10/2019 12:25 PM, Pierre Oliver wrote:

A third party is selling them on Ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Funaro-F-C-T-24-BUCKEYE-CUSHION-Ride-Trucks-2D-F24-5-6-4-Wheel-X37b-X38b-X38/233045357412?hash=item364295f364:g:Lo4AAOSwjQVcEoM2:sc:USPSFirstClass!48060!US!-1

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com
On 8/10/19 12:24 p.m., Tim O'Connor wrote:

Roger,

I could have sworn Sharon said they had them. But give her a call.

Tim O'



On 8/9/2019 10:54 PM, Roger Huber via Groups.Io wrote:
Tim,

I can't see them on the F&C site. Could you provide some other info?

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Friday, August 9, 2019, 09:39:16 PM CDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



Buckeye trucks. The PRR had them as well. F&C makes castings for them.



On 8/9/2019 10:26 PM, Roger Huber via Groups.Io wrote:
The car with the trucks I was asking about is the one on the blog #48826. Very strange trucks I am not familiar with.

Inline image


Roger Huber


I love the B-5 too, although I hesitate to call it the most homely. There
are plenty of candidates for that title! :-D

Photos shows the B-5's with at least FIVE different trucks

1. Buckeye, that Pierre mentioned (date 1956)
2. Allied Full Cushion (1951)
3. National Type B (date 1959)
4. AAR trucks - no spring plank, widely spaced two front springs (1942 builder, etc)
5. AAR trucks - no spring plank, three front springs (1941 builder)

Tim


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Railway express agency (was LCL)

Lee Thwaits
 

Was  REA legally tied to the railroads?  I always wondered why it didn't become a trucking competitor to UPS.
Lee Thwaits

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