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offered: Molds for N scale Van Dyke frameless tank car (Also Nn3 narrow gauge)

Andy Carlson
 

Hi-
This is a copy of a listing I sent to the N scale 3' narrow gauge ion site. Since these tank cars were standard gauge before the Denver and Rio Grande Western narrow gauged them. I figure some N scalers might be interested in building a few of these tank cars. I have no pictures of these molds.


Hello-

Our friend and pioneer Nn3 modeler, Pete Peters, is no longer modeling and I have some things to sell.

Pete made 2 RTV molds for his scratch built Nn3 D&RGW frameless Van Dyke tank car. The two molds are 1) for the top of the tank from the running boards and higher, and 2) the mold which casts the bottom of the tank with the bolsters and draft gear. Also, the bracket stanchens for the running boards, which will cantilever out of the tank bottom after pulling the casting out of the mold. Drop the top of the tank casting and the running board stanchens will be finely attached and quite close to scale.

Also note, the Van dyke tank cars on the D&RGW were formerly UTLX standard gauge tank cars. These molds can make standard gauge tanks just as easily as narrow gauge.

By making castings with 2-ton Devcon epoxy, or if that is difficult to obtain, auto parts store JB Weld original, makes great castings without the need for vacuum or pressure casting. Never, I repeat Never use 5-minute epoxy! Simply paste the surface of the mold components with epoxy applied with a flat tooth pick, then finish the casting by adding more epoxy inside the mold until the desired casting thickness is achieved. The next day you can pull out the tank castings from the molds. The casting process is a bit simpler (easier) than 2-part molds for 1-piece bodies.

RTV molds are good for about a few more than a dozen castings before the mold looses its ability to not stick to the resin part. These molds will also easily take polyurethane resin due to the flat mold stature. I will refund the money if the buyer can not get at least one cast from the mold. With a good cast, the buyer can make replacement copy cast mold(s) at his leasure, and maybe the mold can provide several castings. An aerosol mold release agent helps a lot.

Offered for $50 plus shipping of $5 to the US. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is accepted. Contact me off-list at <midcentury@...> if interested.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Jeff Sankus
 

On the subject of Tichy decals.....Has anyone spoken to them about the issues?
I had a Tichy kit that had several poorly molded parts. I wrote and asked for replacements...No questions asked, Tichy sent replacements within  two days. 
I would think they would want to make good on all of their products?
Jeff

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 4:09 PM Jeff Sankus via Groups.Io <uvrail=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Steve
The scheme is close but the logo is bit different. I think Sunshine did offer a kit with the logo that has been spoken about here.

Jeff

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 4:03 PM steve_wintner via Groups.Io <steve_wintner=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Guys, I own a Sunshine minikit, listed as MK13 on this website : http://sunshinekits.com/minikits.html

Isn't that one of these cars/schemes? Granted, 10-6 not 10 foot. And out of production, but I got mine on eBay.

Steve


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Jeff Sankus
 

Steve
The scheme is close but the logo is bit different. I think Sunshine did offer a kit with the logo that has been spoken about here.

Jeff

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 4:03 PM steve_wintner via Groups.Io <steve_wintner=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Guys, I own a Sunshine minikit, listed as MK13 on this website : http://sunshinekits.com/minikits.html

Isn't that one of these cars/schemes? Granted, 10-6 not 10 foot. And out of production, but I got mine on eBay.

Steve


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

steve_wintner
 

Guys, I own a Sunshine minikit, listed as MK13 on this website : http://sunshinekits.com/minikits.html

Isn't that one of these cars/schemes? Granted, 10-6 not 10 foot. And out of production, but I got mine on eBay.

Steve


Re: Watermelons

dale florence <dwwesley@...>
 

When I went to High School in the early 60's, I had to cross Gibson Freight Yard on the west end. About once or twice a year I would pass a ventilated boxcar full of watermelons. This car had no roof, and the watermelons were stack with no melons at the door, but were stack higher as you moved to the ends. Straw was between the layers. Also, these cars were always behind the engine. 
:
Dale Florence





 




Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Tim O'Connor
 


Hubert makes excellent decals, but the EJ&E date stencil should read 64 not 54.

In other words it's a 1960's paint scheme - which is fine with me! :-)

Tim




On 7/12/2019 3:32 PM, Jeff Sankus wrote:
All
Tim is correct that the scheme Michael requested is now offered by Tichy. 
I'm sure Hubert Mask could be talked into offering the Around Chicago set as well.
Hopefully Hubert will be at St.Louis. I'll speak to him about tis set as I'd like to model these also.


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Tim O'Connor
 

oops. wrong attachment.

On 7/12/2019 3:27 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Here are clearer pictures showing the EJ&E 10-0 postwar box car in its original lettering,
which I think was WHITE.





On 7/12/2019 11:24 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
I did one of those early early Sunshine kits of the rebuilt DS cars that included orange decals in the map scheme for the overall green car with black ends/roof.

The later cars with wide doorways, billboard schemes, abbreviated top rib ends and 10' interior heights (attached) are a tough project, and no decals I was ever able to find.

What a great resin kit those would make!

Elden Gatwood

Attachments:
EJE 61096 1963.jpg: https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/165402/0
eje 61216 10ftIH circa1953.jpg: https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/165402/1
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Jeff Sankus
 

All
Tim is correct that the scheme Michael requested is now offered by Tichy. 
I'm sure Hubert Mask could be talked into offering the Around Chicago set as well.
Hopefully Hubert will be at St.Louis. I'll speak to him about tis set as I'd like to model these also.

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 3:27 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Here are clearer pictures showing the EJ&E 10-0 postwar box car in its
original lettering,
which I think was WHITE.





On 7/12/2019 11:24 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
> I did one of those early early Sunshine kits of the rebuilt DS cars that included orange decals in the map scheme for the overall green car with black ends/roof.
>
> The later cars with wide doorways, billboard schemes, abbreviated top rib ends and 10' interior heights (attached) are a tough project, and no decals I was ever able to find.
>
> What a great resin kit those would make!
>
> Elden Gatwood
>
> Attachments:
> EJE 61096 1963.jpg: https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/165402/0
> eje 61216 10ftIH circa1953.jpg: https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/165402/1


--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*




Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Tim O'Connor
 

The EJ&E applied at least four other paint schemes that included green & orange colors,
as attached here. Note the physical differences between some of the cars - they are not
all exactly alike.

Tim O'Connor

On 7/12/2019 11:24 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
Guys;

I did one of those early early Sunshine kits of the rebuilt DS cars that included orange decals in the map scheme for the overall green car with black ends/roof.

The later cars with wide doorways, billboard schemes, abbreviated top rib ends and 10' interior heights (attached) are a tough project, and no decals I was ever able to find.

What a great resin kit those would make!

Elden Gatwood
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Questions for my first resin build

Richard Townsend
 

There was an article in RMC a while ago about modeling a watermelon load. I don’t remember whether it was in a stock car or box car. I am not at home so I can’t check my files.


On Jul 12, 2019, at 2:40 PM, James E Kubanick <jekuban@...> wrote:

Paolo,

Welcome! I see you have received many excellent tips from the Group. You indicate that your  resin kits are mostly F&C kits. It is well known by this group that F&C's instruction sheets are not the best. I often struggle with the poor photographs and have difficulty in identifying smaller parts due to the vagueness in wording in these sheets.

So, my advice is to work slowly and, should you have any difficulty in interpreting anything in the instructions, do not hesitate to post your questions to this Group. It is a wonderful resource for solving these issues and the members are more than willing to help.

Have fun on your builds.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV

On Friday, July 12, 2019, 12:38:30 PM EDT, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:


The F&C people recommend "Shout" for cleaning their resin.
I never tap, just screw it in...Only time I should have was on Westerfield's old brittle gun metal gray castings. Had struggled though building and was screwing in the last truck screw when the thing shattered in my hand....
CW Propst


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Tim O'Connor
 

Here are clearer pictures showing the EJ&E 10-0 postwar box car in its original lettering,
which I think was WHITE.

On 7/12/2019 11:24 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
I did one of those early early Sunshine kits of the rebuilt DS cars that included orange decals in the map scheme for the overall green car with black ends/roof.

The later cars with wide doorways, billboard schemes, abbreviated top rib ends and 10' interior heights (attached) are a tough project, and no decals I was ever able to find.

What a great resin kit those would make!

Elden Gatwood

Attachments:
EJE 61096 1963.jpg: https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/165402/0
eje 61216 10ftIH circa1953.jpg: https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/165402/1
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Tim O'Connor
 

Michael

I think the only source is now Jerry Glow - or Tichy, since Jerry may have sold that
art to Tichy. Jerry may have done the orange lettering for two different cars.

Tim O'

On 7/12/2019 11:01 AM, Michael Gross wrote:
While we're on this subject, does anyone still make a decal of the iconic orange Chicago map and lettering on the EJ&E?
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started?

Tony Thompson
 

Elden Gatwood wrote:

I did one of those early early Sunshine kits of the rebuilt DS cars that included orange decals in the map scheme for the overall green car with black ends/roof.
Excellent model of a distinctive prototype, Elden. Good work!

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com


Re: Questions for my first resin build

James E Kubanick
 

Paolo,

Welcome! I see you have received many excellent tips from the Group. You indicate that your  resin kits are mostly F&C kits. It is well known by this group that F&C's instruction sheets are not the best. I often struggle with the poor photographs and have difficulty in identifying smaller parts due to the vagueness in wording in these sheets.

So, my advice is to work slowly and, should you have any difficulty in interpreting anything in the instructions, do not hesitate to post your questions to this Group. It is a wonderful resource for solving these issues and the members are more than willing to help.

Have fun on your builds.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV

On Friday, July 12, 2019, 12:38:30 PM EDT, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:


The F&C people recommend "Shout" for cleaning their resin.
I never tap, just screw it in...Only time I should have was on Westerfield's old brittle gun metal gray castings. Had struggled though building and was screwing in the last truck screw when the thing shattered in my hand....
CW Propst


Re: Watermelons

Rich Gibson
 

Given the Missouri caption, my first guess would be St. Louis, Iron Mtn & Southern.

Rich Gibson
Golden, CO


Re: Watermelons

Douglas Harding
 

Claus I would agree with Dennis & Ben. The stockcar is most likely a St. Louis Iron Mountain & Southern car. One of the other photos I posted came from this site http://www.scottcountygenealogy.org/search/label/Blodgett%20Missouri Blodgett is in Scott Co. MO, and was home to the Iron Mountain Railroad ran through there, hauling watermelons.

 

The Fort Dodge Des Moines & Southern came into existence in 1906, but in the 1913 ORER shows no stockcars for the FDDM&S. It was an electric line across central Iowa.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Andy;

I wholeheartedly agree!

I understand they were originally contemplated as steel carriers (like the P&WV ACF cars, and the B&LE XM-5's), and so, got wide doorways for forklifts. Since there was no need for a tall car, and limited clearances in some of the mills, it makes sense they were only 10' IH.

Early steel shipment is kinda my thing, so these cars are fascinating.

And some of the coolest P&L EVER!

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 11:52 AM
To: STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Wow, what a cool car, Eldon!

If this is an 8' door car, a somewhat easy kit bash can be made by removing the outer two panels on each end of a Branchline #1000A Blueprint series 50' 16 panel box car, followed by trimming the top of the sides by 6 scale inches. A 7' door car can be made with a bit more work. The rewards of going to this work pays off well when compared to a CB&T shops version with over-sized rivets.


-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Guys;

I did one of those early early Sunshine kits of the rebuilt DS cars that included orange decals in the map scheme for the overall green car with black ends/roof.

The later cars with wide doorways, billboard schemes, abbreviated top rib ends and 10' interior heights (attached) are a tough project, and no decals I was ever able to find.

What a great resin kit those would make!

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----


Tichy makes them. Tho they are a bit thick...
Joe Binish

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 10:01 AM Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@gmail.com <mailto:ActorMichaelGross@gmail.com> <mailto:ActorMichaelGross@gmail.com <mailto:ActorMichaelGross@gmail.com> > > wrote:


While we're on this subject, does anyone still make a decal of the iconic orange Chicago map and lettering on the EJ&E?
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Watermelons

Clark Propst
 

Interesting photos Doug! I recall a friend telling me a story from his childhood about finding a watermelon left in a ventilated car by mistake. He said it was covered with straw...They must have used straw for packing?
CW Propst


Re: Questions for my first resin build

Clark Propst
 

The F&C people recommend "Shout" for cleaning their resin.
I never tap, just screw it in...Only time I should have was on Westerfield's old brittle gun metal gray castings. Had struggled though building and was screwing in the last truck screw when the thing shattered in my hand....
CW Propst


Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Andy Carlson
 

Wow, what a cool car, Eldon!

If this is an 8' door car, a somewhat easy kit bash can be made by removing the outer two panels on each end of a Branchline #1000A Blueprint series 50' 16 panel box car, followed by trimming the top of the sides by 6 scale inches.  A 7' door car can be made with a bit more work.  The rewards of going to this work pays off well when compared to a CB&T shops version with over-sized rivets.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Guys;

I did one of those early early Sunshine kits of the rebuilt DS cars that included orange decals in the map scheme for the overall green car with black ends/roof.

The later cars with wide doorways, billboard schemes, abbreviated top rib ends and 10' interior heights (attached) are a tough project, and no decals I was ever able to find.

What a great resin kit those would make!

Elden Gatwood


-----Original Message-----


Tichy makes them.  Tho they are a bit thick...
Joe Binish

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 10:01 AM Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@... <mailto:ActorMichaelGross@...> > wrote:


    While we're on this subject, does anyone still make a decal of the iconic orange Chicago map and lettering on the EJ&E?
    --
    Michael Gross
    Pasadena, CA

   

   



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