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Re: InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

Bill Keene
 

Michael,

Thank you for the reminder about the mounting of the brake reservoir on the Bx-27s. I had completely forgotten this little detail. 

I was looking through my pile of goodies and find that I have one of the Sunshine Duryea underframe mini-kits. I guess I will try to use that kit as a sample to scratch build a version close enough to meet the three-foot rule for the other three or four kits that I have. Got to love the challenges that this hobby brings. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA



On Jun 28, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

Also interesting to note the Bx-27s did NOT have the transverse-mounted brake reservoir widely found on other Santa Fe classes.
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Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Westy USRA 40-ton Double Sheathed boxcar as SP&S

O Fenton Wells
 

Great work as usual Mr Welch.  Excellent
Fenton

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 4:42 PM Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
Currently working on a Westerfield USRA 40-ton double sheathed boxcar that will ultimately be lettered for the SP&S. By my October 1955 date not many of these were still in revenue in their original form. It will reflect very little change with only the application of AB brakes plus there will be some "metal" flashing above the door represented with 0.005 styrene. I have modified the assembly as I did not want to assemble the body around the floor as I prefer to assemble floor towards the end of the build after iboth are painted. Instead I assembled the side sills to the top of the floor so it will slip into the car body. The roof frame in the photo is actually for the 50-ton SS USRA car as the frames I received for the DS car were much too wide. I used .005 styrene veneered to the end of the roof to make it appear as if the sheet metal lops over the wood facia boards. On the side I have glued a.005 substrate were I will attach facia boards after the roof is glued on.

Bill Welch



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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
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Re: InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

Michael Gross
 

Also interesting to note the Bx-27s did NOT have the transverse-mounted brake reservoir widely found on other Santa Fe classes.
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Westy USRA 40-ton Double Sheathed boxcar as SP&S

Bill Welch
 

Currently working on a Westerfield USRA 40-ton double sheathed boxcar that will ultimately be lettered for the SP&S. By my October 1955 date not many of these were still in revenue in their original form. It will reflect very little change with only the application of AB brakes plus there will be some "metal" flashing above the door represented with 0.005 styrene. I have modified the assembly as I did not want to assemble the body around the floor as I prefer to assemble floor towards the end of the build after iboth are painted. Instead I assembled the side sills to the top of the floor so it will slip into the car body. The roof frame in the photo is actually for the 50-ton SS USRA car as the frames I received for the DS car were much too wide. I used .005 styrene veneered to the end of the roof to make it appear as if the sheet metal lops over the wood facia boards. On the side I have glued a.005 substrate were I will attach facia boards after the roof is glued on.

Bill Welch


New SFRD reefer kits

Eric Hansmann
 

Resin Car Works has released new HO scale SFRD reefer kits. More details are in the latest blog post.

http://blog.resincarworks.com/june-kit-announcements/



Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Re: Consolidated Freight Classification book for sale

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

Book is sold.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353


On Friday, June 28, 2019, 10:34:38 AM CDT, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:


Hello,

I have A 1951 Consolidated Freight Classification #20 book for sale.  It is dated Oct. 15, 1951, 492 pages.  The subtitle is "Ratings, rules and Regulations".  $15.00 plus media mail shipping.  Requests off line.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353





Re: Consolidated Freight Classification book for sale

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

I have A 1951 Consolidated Freight Classification #20 book for sale.  It is dated Oct. 15, 1951, 492 pages.  The subtitle is "Ratings, rules and Regulations".  $15.00 plus media mail shipping.  Requests off line.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353




Re: A couple new kits for Collinsville

gtws00
 

Looks like three nice cars to add to my collection. Will there be decals available as well?
George Toman


A couple new kits for Collinsville

Chad Boas
 

I will have 3 new kits for the Collinsville meet.
First is the SCL AF-5. This kit will include doors, ends and lower side sills. I made it to fit the Branchline 40' AAR.
Second is the B&O M-59. This kit includes doors, ends and lower side sills. It also fits the Branchline 40' AAR.
Third is the Soo Line Combo door Series #48000. This kit is just the sides only.
Chad Boas


Re: Poultry Car

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

Doug,

Thanks for the neat pictures.

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Thursday, June 27, 2019, 02:49:48 PM CDT, Douglas Harding <doug.harding@...> wrote:


Here are the images I have of the cars you mentioned, plus HLSX 2. Note HLSX 1 and HLSX 2 are not the same design.

 

The standard design for a poultry car, dating from 1891, had the caretakers quarters in the middle. Along with the bed and stove. It also contained a barrel for mixing the mash fed to the birds. Water tank was over head, feed storage was in a box below the floor. Early builders included Pullman, Ohio Falls, Terre Haute, and Haskell-Barker. Haskell-Barker became part of Pullman Standard and Ohio Falls and Terre Haute were merged into American Car & Foundry.

 

PPKX 5065 is named Meierfeld, the spelling is a little different.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Webber
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:02 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Poultry Car

 

The Car Builders Compendium with reprints from the 1943 CBC have images of 3 different cars:
666 MUDD LPTCo. (NAC) 128 coops in 1,760 sq ft. 10-ton capy
5131 STENTZ PPC (NAC)  3,415 sw ft 10-ton capy
1 HLSX (NAC) Sheep, Lambs & small live stock triple decker (while not specificly poultry - it uses many of the same construction techniques)

Interesting to note that the first two, the state room is in the middle  - the 1914 H&B & 1928 SS General arrangement drawings for the cars also show the state room in the middle. (They both show a stove & lamp in a two walled "annex"  (likely a fireproof floor and walls)  near by)  On the SS cars there was 7' 1.5" between the state room's bulkheads, on the H&B 7' 11.75".  When you think about it - this space was actually larger than a Pullman section - albeit with a stove, lamp, tank, & feed box all infringing upon the space. (The H&B having more infringing upon the inside that space)

Iin the last (HLSX 1) , on the A end.

When NACC had 210 Poultry cars built by Standard Steel - there was also 1 sheep car built at the same time.  It used many of the same components as the Poultry car.  I believe HLSX 1 is that car. The General Arrangement for it certainly matches.

(my copy has poor image reproduction - a fresher one may be good enough to discern the car builder's stencil on the exterior frames)

The (SS) Poultry car stencil drawing shows no number but named MIEIRFELD. 



Bob Webber


Re: Poultry Car

Douglas Harding
 

Here are the images I have of the cars you mentioned, plus HLSX 2. Note HLSX 1 and HLSX 2 are not the same design.

 

The standard design for a poultry car, dating from 1891, had the caretakers quarters in the middle. Along with the bed and stove. It also contained a barrel for mixing the mash fed to the birds. Water tank was over head, feed storage was in a box below the floor. Early builders included Pullman, Ohio Falls, Terre Haute, and Haskell-Barker. Haskell-Barker became part of Pullman Standard and Ohio Falls and Terre Haute were merged into American Car & Foundry.

 

PPKX 5065 is named Meierfeld, the spelling is a little different.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Webber
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 9:02 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Poultry Car

 

The Car Builders Compendium with reprints from the 1943 CBC have images of 3 different cars:
666 MUDD LPTCo. (NAC) 128 coops in 1,760 sq ft. 10-ton capy
5131 STENTZ PPC (NAC)  3,415 sw ft 10-ton capy
1 HLSX (NAC) Sheep, Lambs & small live stock triple decker (while not specificly poultry - it uses many of the same construction techniques)

Interesting to note that the first two, the state room is in the middle  - the 1914 H&B & 1928 SS General arrangement drawings for the cars also show the state room in the middle. (They both show a stove & lamp in a two walled "annex"  (likely a fireproof floor and walls)  near by)  On the SS cars there was 7' 1.5" between the state room's bulkheads, on the H&B 7' 11.75".  When you think about it - this space was actually larger than a Pullman section - albeit with a stove, lamp, tank, & feed box all infringing upon the space. (The H&B having more infringing upon the inside that space)

Iin the last (HLSX 1) , on the A end.

When NACC had 210 Poultry cars built by Standard Steel - there was also 1 sheep car built at the same time.  It used many of the same components as the Poultry car.  I believe HLSX 1 is that car. The General Arrangement for it certainly matches.

(my copy has poor image reproduction - a fresher one may be good enough to discern the car builder's stencil on the exterior frames)

The (SS) Poultry car stencil drawing shows no number but named MIEIRFELD. 



Bob Webber


Re: Poultry Car

Tim Meyer
 

The Pullman Library has 31 drawings for the 210 cars that Standard Steel Car built for the North American Poultry company. 

I will be building one in 1/8th. scale.

Tim Meyer


Re: InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

naptownprr
 

Thank you -- I finally found it!


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2019 1:15 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners
 
It's there. Search for 45793, It's in the "1937 AAR 40' Boxcars"

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: naptownprr <jhunter@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

I found a list of PS-1, but nothing in the number series you gave me.

Jim

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:57 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners
 
oops:45793 etc.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

Scroll down about half way. Stock numbers 45993, 94, and 95.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: naptownprr <jhunter@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

I clicked on the linc you provided, but I did not see confirmation of a car with Deco ends.

Jim


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Randy Hammill <nhrr@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 6:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners
 
Yes, the cars with Deco Ends have been confirmed for production for some time, as noted on their page:

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/newshocomingsoon.html

Randy
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Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954  | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com


Re: Poultry Car

Bob Webber
 

The Car Builders Compendium with reprints from the 1943 CBC have images of 3 different cars:
666 MUDD LPTCo. (NAC) 128 coops in 1,760 sq ft. 10-ton capy
5131 STENTZ PPC (NAC)  3,415 sw ft 10-ton capy
1 HLSX (NAC) Sheep, Lambs & small live stock triple decker (while not specificly poultry - it uses many of the same construction techniques)

Interesting to note that the first two, the state room is in the middle  - the 1914 H&B & 1928 SS General arrangement drawings for the cars also show the state room in the middle. (They both show a stove & lamp in a two walled "annex"  (likely a fireproof floor and walls)  near by)  On the SS cars there was 7' 1.5" between the state room's bulkheads, on the H&B 7' 11.75".  When you think about it - this space was actually larger than a Pullman section - albeit with a stove, lamp, tank, & feed box all infringing upon the space. (The H&B having more infringing upon the inside that space)

Iin the last (HLSX 1) , on the A end.

When NACC had 210 Poultry cars built by Standard Steel - there was also 1 sheep car built at the same time.  It used many of the same components as the Poultry car.  I believe HLSX 1 is that car. The General Arrangement for it certainly matches.

(my copy has poor image reproduction - a fresher one may be good enough to discern the car builder's stencil on the exterior frames)

The (SS) Poultry car stencil drawing shows no number but named MIEIRFELD. 


Bob Webber


B&O hoppers

Eric Hansmann
 

The 1926 B&O hopper fleet was the third largest among US railroads. A car class summary is available to review on the DesignBuildOp blog. 

http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/2019/06/27/1926-bo-freight-car-fleet-3/



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


Re: InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

Richard Townsend
 

It's there. Search for 45793, It's in the "1937 AAR 40' Boxcars"

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: naptownprr <jhunter@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 9:40 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

I found a list of PS-1, but nothing in the number series you gave me.

Jim

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:57 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners
 
oops:45793 etc.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

Scroll down about half way. Stock numbers 45993, 94, and 95.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: naptownprr <jhunter@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

I clicked on the linc you provided, but I did not see confirmation of a car with Deco ends.

Jim


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Randy Hammill <nhrr@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 6:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners
 
Yes, the cars with Deco Ends have been confirmed for production for some time, as noted on their page:

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/newshocomingsoon.html

Randy
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Randy Hammill
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954  | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com


Re: InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

naptownprr
 

I found a list of PS-1, but nothing in the number series you gave me.


Jim


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 11:57 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners
 
oops:45793 etc.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

Scroll down about half way. Stock numbers 45993, 94, and 95.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: naptownprr <jhunter@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

I clicked on the linc you provided, but I did not see confirmation of a car with Deco ends.

Jim


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Randy Hammill <nhrr@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 6:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners
 
Yes, the cars with Deco Ends have been confirmed for production for some time, as noted on their page:

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/newshocomingsoon.html

Randy
--

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Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954  | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com


Re: InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

Richard Townsend
 

oops:45793 etc.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

Scroll down about half way. Stock numbers 45993, 94, and 95.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: naptownprr <jhunter@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

I clicked on the linc you provided, but I did not see confirmation of a car with Deco ends.

Jim


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Randy Hammill <nhrr@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 6:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners
 
Yes, the cars with Deco Ends have been confirmed for production for some time, as noted on their page:

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/newshocomingsoon.html

Randy
--

Randy Hammill
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954  | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com


Re: InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

Richard Townsend
 

Scroll down about half way. Stock numbers 45993, 94, and 95.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: naptownprr <jhunter@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jun 26, 2019 7:04 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners

I clicked on the linc you provided, but I did not see confirmation of a car with Deco ends.

Jim


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Randy Hammill <nhrr@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 6:50 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners
 
Yes, the cars with Deco Ends have been confirmed for production for some time, as noted on their page:

https://www.intermountain-railway.com/newshocomingsoon.html

Randy
--

Randy Hammill
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954  | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com


GM&O 8000 series boxcars

Brian Carlson
 

Does anyone know if the above cars when repainted in the simpler scheme without the rebel route slogan received Brown ends?I have one black-and-white photo of a repaint and I think the ends were painted brown.

Brian J. Carlson

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