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RDG 70000 series 4-bay hoppers

James E Kubanick
 

I have a photo of RDG 4bay steel hopper. It is a 3/4 view shot and I am using it to build an HO model. Unfortunately, the end shown in the photo is the A end and I cannot tell if these cars had power hand brakes or stem winders. I want to build the car as it would have appeared in 1952. The photo shows the car was built in   6 /24,, reweighed in 8/48 and re4packed by the PRR in 4/51.The class designation is obliterated by the banged up panel. This car had retained it's Andrews trucks and still was equipped with Carmer cut levers.

I suspect that these hoppers were originally composite hoppers, later rebuilt as all steel card and probably received power hand brakes at that time, similar to a batch of LV quads. However, I'd like to confirm my suspicions before building the model. Are there any Reading experts on this list that can verify the brake system used on these cars in 1952?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV


Re: 3 new 40'er for Collinsville

Benjamin Hom
 

Armand Premo asked:
"Looking for a source for Frisco, KCS and CIL Boxcars Kits or RTR Any help would be appreciated."

That's a wide net.  Anything specific?

Ben Hom


Looking for Lehigh Valley Freight Car Diagrams

Steve Sejda
 

Hi All,

I am looking for a reference source for Lehigh Valley Railroad freight car diagrams. If anyone knows of a digital format or hard copy reprints please let me know. 

Thanks in advance for any help for any info provided.

Steve Sejda
Monroeville, NJ


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

hubert mask
 

I also have EJ&E Decals.  Orange and Green 40' box cars.  Joliet Built.  

Not sure if it is the right time frame.

Hubert Mask


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On Jul 13, 2019, at 3:00 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

CA
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Michael Gross
 

I appreciate the EJ&E information, and may give the Tichy decals a try. That orange map scheme is something I saw frequently in my boyhood days in Chicago 

Thanks and cheers!
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Michael Gross
 

Much appreciate the decal info. Thanks so much, guys!
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Offered:Molds for Nn3 scale Van Dyke frameless tank car

Andy Carlson
 


Hello-

Pictures of sample castings of the molds which I posted for sale yesterday.
-Andy Carlson






















Re: Tangent Scale Models: Bethlehem HO 52’-6” 70-Ton Riveted Drop-End Gondola Parts and Kits

Jeff
 

Wish you were at the show... 

Jeff Shultz

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 20:29 Tangent Scale Models via Groups.Io <tangentscalemodels=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Tangent Scale Models is proud to introduce several new items for your Friday.  All are available immediately for purchase:

 

Bethlehem HO 52’-6” 70-Ton Riveted Drop-End Gondola - Undecorated Kits!  That’s right, undecorated kits are back again for our Bethlehem gondolas, after a long hiatus.  We offer these great models in two variations – with a wood floor or with a steel floor.  These cars make a great “one night modeling project” for the build aspect of the kit.  Don’t miss out!  More details on our website – https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/undecorated-kits/

 

Bethlehem HO 52’-6” 70-Ton Riveted Drop-End Gondola – Styrene Parts!  Have you been wanting some styrene brakewheel options?  Some Duryea underframes for kitbash projects (Remember the ATSF BX thread recently)?  Different routing card parts?  Slack adjuster parts?  More details on our website – https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/parts/

 

Bethlehem HO 52’-6” 70-Ton Riveted Drop-End Gondola – Etched metal tie down parts!  Yes, that is right, we have the etched metal tie down parts that are very useful for your freight car modeling applications!  More details on our website – https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/parts/

 

Thank you for continuing to support Tangent Scale Models, a family-owned and operated company!

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models


Re: 3 new 40'er for Collinsville

Armand Premo
 

Looking for a source for Frisco,,KCS and CIL Boxcars Kits or RTR Any help would be appreciated..Armand Premo

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On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 8:09 AM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
Hey big guy have you decided which N&W boxcars you are going to do?  I’m hoping for the single and double door versions. And I’ll buy one of each. I’ll also donate some capital for the project if needed 
Fenton 


On Jul 12, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Chad Boas via Groups.Io <chadboas@...> wrote:

The parts are ready for the 3 new cars I am offering.
First is the Soo Line combo door 48000 series car. This kit is just the sides and is $13. I used Branchline 1E ends but I might have to start casting end if they become to hard to find.
Second is the B&O M-59 double door 298000 series car. This kit will come with the ends, doors and lower side sills and is $16. I used a Branchline 40' AAR kit with a 6' door for the base.
Third is the SAL AF-5 double door 23000 series car. This kit comes with ends, doors and lower side sills and is $16. I also used a Branchline 40' AAR kit with 6' door on this one.
I will be at Collinsville with the usual bunch of flat cars, gons and some S-n-T parts.
Contact me off list for my updated list of kits.
Chad Boas
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Re: 3 new 40'er for Collinsville

O Fenton Wells
 

Hey big guy have you decided which N&W boxcars you are going to do?  I’m hoping for the single and double door versions. And I’ll buy one of each. I’ll also donate some capital for the project if needed 
Fenton 


On Jul 12, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Chad Boas via Groups.Io <chadboas@...> wrote:

The parts are ready for the 3 new cars I am offering.
First is the Soo Line combo door 48000 series car. This kit is just the sides and is $13. I used Branchline 1E ends but I might have to start casting end if they become to hard to find.
Second is the B&O M-59 double door 298000 series car. This kit will come with the ends, doors and lower side sills and is $16. I used a Branchline 40' AAR kit with a 6' door for the base.
Third is the SAL AF-5 double door 23000 series car. This kit comes with ends, doors and lower side sills and is $16. I also used a Branchline 40' AAR kit with 6' door on this one.
I will be at Collinsville with the usual bunch of flat cars, gons and some S-n-T parts.
Contact me off list for my updated list of kits.
Chad Boas
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Re: Poultry car models

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

Well, it seems since Lee Riley isn't their driving force any longer Bachmann is returning to it's former toy train mentality.

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Friday, July 12, 2019, 09:53:42 PM CDT, Douglas Harding <doug.harding@...> wrote:


Knowing my interest in Poultry cars, a friend spotted this and sent it to me with a note to check out page 4!

 

https://resources.bachmanntrains.com/2019nmraslc/html5/index.html

 

First thing I noticed, they have standard steel boxcar doors! How could Bachmann screw that up? And at $49? Seriously?

Attached is a photo of LPTC #666 Mudd. Compare to the Bachmann illustration.

Speedy was a combo car, Bachmann blew this one.

Stentz was a Palace Poultry Car PPKX 5131. Can’t even get the numbers right.

 

Who ever is advising Bachmann on these cars would appear to have no knowledge of actual poultry cars.

 

It appears Bachmann took their standard 40’ boxcar, and replaced the sides with a fake poultry car side. It looks like the screen wire and chickens are silk screen on plastic, very similar to the Lionel poultry car. Details are wrong or non-existent. They need two ladders per side, not one. And the Palace Poultry cars had four ladders per side. The names and numbers are not properly matched, ie they don’t have my list. Looks like the car sits to high on the trucks. A prototype poultry car has four panels on each side of the door, the model has five. And I have not seen a single poultry car with a letter board, like the Palace car in Bachmann’s catalog.

 

My hopes of a poultry car are quickly diminished.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


Poultry car models

Douglas Harding
 

Knowing my interest in Poultry cars, a friend spotted this and sent it to me with a note to check out page 4!

 

https://resources.bachmanntrains.com/2019nmraslc/html5/index.html

 

First thing I noticed, they have standard steel boxcar doors! How could Bachmann screw that up? And at $49? Seriously?

Attached is a photo of LPTC #666 Mudd. Compare to the Bachmann illustration.

Speedy was a combo car, Bachmann blew this one.

Stentz was a Palace Poultry Car PPKX 5131. Can’t even get the numbers right.

 

Who ever is advising Bachmann on these cars would appear to have no knowledge of actual poultry cars.

 

It appears Bachmann took their standard 40’ boxcar, and replaced the sides with a fake poultry car side. It looks like the screen wire and chickens are silk screen on plastic, very similar to the Lionel poultry car. Details are wrong or non-existent. They need two ladders per side, not one. And the Palace Poultry cars had four ladders per side. The names and numbers are not properly matched, ie they don’t have my list. Looks like the car sits to high on the trucks. A prototype poultry car has four panels on each side of the door, the model has five. And I have not seen a single poultry car with a letter board, like the Palace car in Bachmann’s catalog.

 

My hopes of a poultry car are quickly diminished.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


Tangent Scale Models: Bethlehem HO 52’-6” 70-Ton Riveted Drop-End Gondola Parts and Kits

Tangent Scale Models
 

Tangent Scale Models is proud to introduce several new items for your Friday.  All are available immediately for purchase:

 

Bethlehem HO 52’-6” 70-Ton Riveted Drop-End Gondola - Undecorated Kits!  That’s right, undecorated kits are back again for our Bethlehem gondolas, after a long hiatus.  We offer these great models in two variations – with a wood floor or with a steel floor.  These cars make a great “one night modeling project” for the build aspect of the kit.  Don’t miss out!  More details on our website – https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/undecorated-kits/

 

Bethlehem HO 52’-6” 70-Ton Riveted Drop-End Gondola – Styrene Parts!  Have you been wanting some styrene brakewheel options?  Some Duryea underframes for kitbash projects (Remember the ATSF BX thread recently)?  Different routing card parts?  Slack adjuster parts?  More details on our website – https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/parts/

 

Bethlehem HO 52’-6” 70-Ton Riveted Drop-End Gondola – Etched metal tie down parts!  Yes, that is right, we have the etched metal tie down parts that are very useful for your freight car modeling applications!  More details on our website – https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/parts/

 

Thank you for continuing to support Tangent Scale Models, a family-owned and operated company!

David Lehlbach
Tangent Scale Models


Re: Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started?

bill stanton
 

correction would the orange and GREEN be correct for sept 1947?


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Thompson <tony@...>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 11:43 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started?
 
Elden Gatwood wrote:

> I did one of those early early Sunshine kits of the rebuilt DS cars that included orange decals in the map scheme for the overall green car with black ends/roof.

    Excellent model of a distinctive prototype, Elden. Good work!

Tony Thompson
tony@...







Re: Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started?

bill stanton
 

would the orange and black be correct for sept 1947?


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Thompson <tony@...>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 11:43 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started?
 
Elden Gatwood wrote:

> I did one of those early early Sunshine kits of the rebuilt DS cars that included orange decals in the map scheme for the overall green car with black ends/roof.

    Excellent model of a distinctive prototype, Elden. Good work!

Tony Thompson
tony@...







Re: Watermelons

Steve SANDIFER
 

Straw for packing, no more than 3 melons deep.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clark Propst
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2019 11:41 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Watermelons

 

Interesting photos Doug! I recall a friend telling me a story from his childhood about finding a watermelon left in a ventilated car by mistake. He said it was covered with straw...They must have used straw for packing?
CW Propst


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Tim O'Connor
 

That is a prewar design, 10 panel box car. Another variation!

Tim O'

On 7/12/2019 4:03 PM, steve_wintner via Groups.Io wrote:
Guys, I own a Sunshine minikit, listed as MK13 on this website : http://sunshinekits.com/minikits.html

Isn't that one of these cars/schemes? Granted, 10-6 not 10 foot. And out of production, but I got mine on eBay.

Steve
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


3 new 40'er for Collinsville

Chad Boas
 

The parts are ready for the 3 new cars I am offering.
First is the Soo Line combo door 48000 series car. This kit is just the sides and is $13. I used Branchline 1E ends but I might have to start casting end if they become to hard to find.
Second is the B&O M-59 double door 298000 series car. This kit will come with the ends, doors and lower side sills and is $16. I used a Branchline 40' AAR kit with a 6' door for the base.
Third is the SAL AF-5 double door 23000 series car. This kit comes with ends, doors and lower side sills and is $16. I also used a Branchline 40' AAR kit with 6' door on this one.
I will be at Collinsville with the usual bunch of flat cars, gons and some S-n-T parts.
Contact me off list for my updated list of kits.
Chad Boas


offered: Molds for N scale Van Dyke frameless tank car (Also Nn3 narrow gauge)

Andy Carlson
 

Hi-
This is a copy of a listing I sent to the N scale 3' narrow gauge ion site. Since these tank cars were standard gauge before the Denver and Rio Grande Western narrow gauged them. I figure some N scalers might be interested in building a few of these tank cars. I have no pictures of these molds.


Hello-

Our friend and pioneer Nn3 modeler, Pete Peters, is no longer modeling and I have some things to sell.

Pete made 2 RTV molds for his scratch built Nn3 D&RGW frameless Van Dyke tank car. The two molds are 1) for the top of the tank from the running boards and higher, and 2) the mold which casts the bottom of the tank with the bolsters and draft gear. Also, the bracket stanchens for the running boards, which will cantilever out of the tank bottom after pulling the casting out of the mold. Drop the top of the tank casting and the running board stanchens will be finely attached and quite close to scale.

Also note, the Van dyke tank cars on the D&RGW were formerly UTLX standard gauge tank cars. These molds can make standard gauge tanks just as easily as narrow gauge.

By making castings with 2-ton Devcon epoxy, or if that is difficult to obtain, auto parts store JB Weld original, makes great castings without the need for vacuum or pressure casting. Never, I repeat Never use 5-minute epoxy! Simply paste the surface of the mold components with epoxy applied with a flat tooth pick, then finish the casting by adding more epoxy inside the mold until the desired casting thickness is achieved. The next day you can pull out the tank castings from the molds. The casting process is a bit simpler (easier) than 2-part molds for 1-piece bodies.

RTV molds are good for about a few more than a dozen castings before the mold looses its ability to not stick to the resin part. These molds will also easily take polyurethane resin due to the flat mold stature. I will refund the money if the buyer can not get at least one cast from the mold. With a good cast, the buyer can make replacement copy cast mold(s) at his leasure, and maybe the mold can provide several castings. An aerosol mold release agent helps a lot.

Offered for $50 plus shipping of $5 to the US. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is accepted. Contact me off-list at <midcentury@...> if interested.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Elgin Boxcar Green/Orange paint when started? Decals Available???

Jeff Sankus
 

On the subject of Tichy decals.....Has anyone spoken to them about the issues?
I had a Tichy kit that had several poorly molded parts. I wrote and asked for replacements...No questions asked, Tichy sent replacements within  two days. 
I would think they would want to make good on all of their products?
Jeff

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 4:09 PM Jeff Sankus via Groups.Io <uvrail=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Steve
The scheme is close but the logo is bit different. I think Sunshine did offer a kit with the logo that has been spoken about here.

Jeff

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 4:03 PM steve_wintner via Groups.Io <steve_wintner=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Guys, I own a Sunshine minikit, listed as MK13 on this website : http://sunshinekits.com/minikits.html

Isn't that one of these cars/schemes? Granted, 10-6 not 10 foot. And out of production, but I got mine on eBay.

Steve

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