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Re: Wartime reefers on Cajon
mopacfirst
I too get a 404 error. And Shorpy directly is often freezing, so I haven't gotten to that image directly, but I've been close. That could be my internet connection, so I might try tomorrow.
Ron Merrick
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Re: Wartime reefers on Cajon
BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Worked fine for me.
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Thanks! Brian Ehni (Sent from my iPhone)
On Jun 30, 2019, at 7:12 PM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
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Re: Wartime reefers on Cajon
Hi John, The Shorpy image link isn't working for me. Do you have it correctly? Thanks, Steve Hile
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Re: Wartime reefers on Cajon
Tony Thompson
John Barry wrote:
I don't know that I agree, John, it reads as light orange to me. But the dirt on the other reefers reminds us that most of our reefer fleets are too clean -- yes, I'm channeling Richard Hendrickson here . . . Tony Thompson
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Re: Private: Re: InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners
Please ignore my previous email as it was meant to go only to the local MRR club. Jim Kubanick
On Sunday, June 30, 2019, 10:17:18 AM EDT, vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> wrote:
Hello Tim,
many thanks! Will save that mail and use when needed.
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Juni 2019 um 18:30 Uhr
Von: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...> An: "George Toman" <gtws00@...>, main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Private: Re: InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners George asked me offline but in case anyone else is not aware - GROUPS.IO makes searching the archive 100x more convenient than the old Yahoo search. Here is a simple search for DURYEA - 662 messages founded instantly. https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/search?q=duryea Tim O'Connor =============================== On 6/29/2019 7:28 AM, George Toman wrote:
-- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Photos: Many Early 1900s Freight Cars
Thanks for sharing the further information on the images, Dave. It clarifies things a bit and that helps. Eric
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 4:35 PM Dave Parker via Groups.Io <spottab=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: The same link was posted over on the B&M group, where Scott Whitney subsequently claimed ownership of the Dropbox account (part of his NMRO operation).
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Wartime reefers on Cajon
John Barry
In one of the few instances where I would point you at Shorpy rather than the original at the Library of Congress is a retouched version of Jack Delano's color photo of a UP Challenger at Alray with a string of reefers, hatches open for ventilation. https://www.shorpy.com/files/images/1a34754u2.jpg The original scan at LOC has a crack/tear that runs diagonally across most of the photo https://cdn.loc.gov/service/pnp/fsac/1a34000/1a34700/1a34754v.jpg. You can see where it has been repaired in the Shorpy with a slight distortion of the corner adjacent to the NP Monad on the second car. In both versions, the color balance seems "right" to me based on the shed and station sign. That said, I'm surprised by how "yellow" the 2nd PFE car appears, I would have expected a more orange hue. Perhaps it faded through exposure and washings. It must be on it's first trip after a pass through the wash line as it has no weathering. Contrast the ART behind it with the heavy coat of grime and wear around the grabs. Also of note in the 1943 image, is that both of the visible PFE's have the UP Overland Herald, even though the "plain" color Herald became the standard in 42. Further evidence that the clean car was recently washed and not repainted. The other interesting observation is that only 40% of the visible cars are PFE in what looks like a GFX block originating with the UP in SoCal: PFE, NP, PFE, ART, BREX. It looks as if the order "pooling" the refrigerator car fleet has been fully implemented here. John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
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Re: Duryea underframe resin parts photo
John Barry
Tom, The original Duryea design had "open" cross bearers as shown in the photo on Gene's proto 48 blog https://www.proto48.org/images/articles/art07-07-1500.jpg. The Bx-26 class built in 1936 and the Bx-27 built in 1937 were delivered in that configuration. At some time prior to the Bx-34 class constructed in 1940, the design was "improved" with "closed" pressed steel cross bearers. John Dobyne speculates that it was due to a structural weakness in the "open" frames. This seems likely, as at some point, Santa Fe welded steel plates between the upper and lower pieces of the cross bearers on the Bx-26 & 27. The Speedwitch kit correctly models the fiddly bits of the "early" aka "open" underframe with separate parts for the vertical angle irons that you the modeler add during assembly. The Sunshine has these cast integrally with the rest of the cross bearer. Several plastic manufacturers have also produced models with Duryea underframes. The Tangent riveted gondola has excellent extended coupler pockets that are sometimes available as part of separate sprues. They offer a quick and easy way to improve the look of a Bx-27 or 34 without replacing the rest of the underframe. Athearn makes a very nice 50' "closed" Duryea underframe that is under their 50 foot Santa Fe ice reefer. That can be cut and spliced to work for a complete late 40' underframe. John John Barry ATSF North Bay Lines Golden Gates & Fast Freights Lovettsville, VA 707-490-9696 PO Box 44736 Washington, DC 20026-4736
On Saturday, June 29, 2019, 03:11:44 PM EDT, Tom Madden via Groups.Io <pullmanboss@...> wrote:
Here's an image showing the Sunshine and Pennington Duryea underframe mini-kit parts, and the Speedwitch B&O M-26D/E and ATSF Bx-26 Duryea parts. They are all different. As Bill Darnaby mentioned, the Sunshine set will build either the early or late versions, however that's defined.The Speedwitch Santa Fe set has a couple pieces missing because the car is under construction, but the cross-members are shown. Tom Madden
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Re: looking for drawings of Reading hopper 60000 - 60999
Bob Webber
In the FWIW dept. we *should* have the Middleton Car
drawings. St. Louis *MAY* have the AC&F drawings.
We haven't really looked for anything Middleton for a couple of years,
might be entertaining to look.
We have early (1904-1909) P&R drawings for box cars, gondolas & hoppers - those were all Standard Steel tho. At 09:21 AM 6/30/2019, vapeurchapelon wrote: 60600-60799 May-Sep by Middletown Car Works Bob Webber
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Re: looking for drawings of Reading hopper 60000 - 60999
vapeurchapelon
Hello Steve,
many thanks for the link! Saved it, and eventually I will contact Eric.
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. Juni 2019 um 21:16 Uhr
Von: "steve_wintner via Groups.Io" <steve_wintner@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] looking for drawings of Reading hopper 60000 - 60999
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Re: looking for drawings of Reading hopper 60000 - 60999
vapeurchapelon
Hello Tony,
this definitely helps! Many thanks!
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. Juni 2019 um 22:40 Uhr
Von: "anthony wagner" <anycw1@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] looking for drawings of Reading hopper 60000 - 60999 According to the Reading Modeler site HTb 60000-60599 were built Mar-Aug 1902 by ACF, 60600-60799 May-Sep by Middletown Car Works, and 60800-60999 May-Sep 1902 by Lebanon Manufacturing. 864 cars were rebuilt Feb-Oct 1921 to 61000-61863 HTk by ACF with steel center sills but still with 40Ton Fox trucks. They were retired between 1927 and 1934 but 264 cars were converted to ash service as HTkx in the 90000 and 91000 series except 4 cars sold to Atlantic City Railway in 1927 as 10261-10263 HTkx ash cars. Hope this helps Tony Wagner
On Saturday, June 22, 2019, 2:17:01 PM CDT, steve_wintner via Groups.Io <steve_wintner@...> wrote:
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Re: Private: Re: InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners
vapeurchapelon
Hello Tim,
many thanks! Will save that mail and use when needed.
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Juni 2019 um 18:30 Uhr
Von: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@...> An: "George Toman" <gtws00@...>, main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Private: Re: InterMountain HO Scale 1937 AAR Boxcars with Square Corners George asked me offline but in case anyone else is not aware - GROUPS.IO makes searching the archive 100x more convenient than the old Yahoo search. Here is a simple search for DURYEA - 662 messages founded instantly. https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/search?q=duryea Tim O'Connor =============================== On 6/29/2019 7:28 AM, George Toman wrote:
-- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Rare Find
David
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/det/item/2016813911/
The hopper on the right is is one of 1100 PRR class GL built by AC&F on Lot 2571, presumably because Pressed Steel couldn't get their orders out the door fast enough. AC&F also built 300 GL for Lines West on Lot 2856. David Thompson
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Re: Photos: Many Early 1900s Freight Cars
Dave Parker
The same link was posted over on the B&M group, where Scott Whitney subsequently claimed ownership of the Dropbox account (part of his NMRO operation).
Almost all of the same images have been released on a CD by a company called WLHG out of Methuen, MA (purchased mine through ebay). Those images have a WLHG watermark (and are all in sepia tones). As to any IP or copyright issues, or whom to credit for the photos, well.... Dave Parker Riverside, CA
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Re: Photos: Many Early 1900s Freight Cars
Thanks, Bob. You made a happy discovery of a collection that someone assembled in a dropbox folder. Thanks for sharing it. There are some photos that shed light on the construction details and builder of some of the cars included and those sorts of small bits of the bigger picture are always gratefully received. Eric
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 2:43 PM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote: They appeared from an Internet search as a Dropbox file. As I stated, there are no annotations to accompany the photos.
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Photo: Mobile Reefer Icing Of GARX 67664 (Rock Island)
Photo: Mobile Reefer Icing Of GARX 67664 (Rock Island) A photo from the Three Rivers Parks District: Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Photos: Many Early 1900s Freight Cars
They appeared from an Internet search as a Dropbox file. As I stated, there are no annotations to accompany the photos.
Bob
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Re: Atlas NE-6 caboose
Bryian Sones
Dave, FYI there is an undecorated Nickle Plate version on Ebay. It would save you the hassle of striping it and maybe an easier process to disassemble. Kind Regards Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 09:38:12 AM PDT, Dave Lawler <davelawler@...> wrote:
Good day all, I'm thinking of buying an Atlas Master Series NE-6 caboose but I would need to strip and repaint it. Has anyone taken one of these apart? Is it simple like screwed together or is it all glued and impossible to disassemble? Thank you for any help. Dave Lawler
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Duryea underframe resin parts photo
Tom Madden
Here's an image showing the Sunshine and Pennington Duryea underframe mini-kit parts, and the Speedwitch B&O M-26D/E and ATSF Bx-26 Duryea parts. They are all different. As Bill Darnaby mentioned, the Sunshine set will build either the early or late versions, however that's defined.The Speedwitch Santa Fe set has a couple pieces missing because the car is under construction, but the cross-members are shown.
Tom Madden
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Re: Photos: Many Early 1900s Freight Cars
Who/what should be cited as the source for the photos? Are they from your private collection? From a website? Institution?
On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 12:02 PM Eric Lombard <elombard@...> wrote:
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