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Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Bill Welch
 

Here is my attempt at modeling one of the T&P cars with scratch built Superior doors. I covered this model and Frisco in Speedwitch's Vol 3 Modeling Journal.

Yes the late Paige Porter worked ay MDC during that period and Brian Leppert tooled the molds and was ordered by his boss at MDC to make the board junctions more prominent.

Bill Welch


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Richard Townsend
 

Ron, you wrote 
used a couple of these cars as a source for fishbelly boxcar underframes to go under the 86100 and 88300 series express cars (Walthers model, based on Life-Like / Proto) and the 88400 series which stayed as freight cars their whole life.  So I have a couple extra bodies to experiment with.
Can you tell me more about these kitbashes? I cut up a couple of the MDC cars to get the roofs and ends, so I have some extra underframes to work with. Were these bashes involved? 

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

I didn't know that either.  The T&P converted some cars to single door, but they may have also gotten steel sides in place of the wood.  A number of T&P double door cars also got steel sides, and at least a couple of the MP cars.  I haven't figured out how to do that one yet.

I used a couple of these cars as a source for fishbelly boxcar underframes to go under the 86100 and 88300 series express cars (Walthers model, based on Life-Like / Proto) and the 88400 series which stayed as freight cars their whole life.  So I have a couple extra bodies to experiment with.

Ron Merrick


Re: Flat Black

Charles Happel
 

Thanks, that clears it up, now another trip to Ace.

Chuck Happel

Make crime pay. Become a lawyer. Will Rogers

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On Tue, 2/12/19, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Flat Black
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2019, 5:11 PM

Chuck and Group:  https://www.acehardware.com/departments/paint-and-supplies/spray-paint/hobby/17003  This is what I use to prime
all models.
 Chuck
CoverSanta Fe,
NM


Re: CN 8 Hatch reefer question.

Scott
 

I got the 8 rung Canadian ladders in from Des Plaines today.  They look great!  Glad I waited on them.  Thanks for the suggestions.  I attached a photo of them if you havent seen them before.  The left one is a Tichy and the right one is the Des Plaines part number DPH2003.

Scott McDonald


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

mopacfirst
 

I didn't know that either.  The T&P converted some cars to single door, but they may have also gotten steel sides in place of the wood.  A number of T&P double door cars also got steel sides, and at least a couple of the MP cars.  I haven't figured out how to do that one yet.

I used a couple of these cars as a source for fishbelly boxcar underframes to go under the 86100 and 88300 series express cars (Walthers model, based on Life-Like / Proto) and the 88400 series which stayed as freight cars their whole life.  So I have a couple extra bodies to experiment with.

Ron Merrick


Re: T&P picture needed

Clark Propst
 

Thanks to all. Glad I asked the brake components appear to be a strange arrangement. 
Clark Propst


Re: Flat Black

Chuck Cover
 

Chuck and Group:

 

https://www.acehardware.com/departments/paint-and-supplies/spray-paint/hobby/17003

 

This is what I use to prime all models.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Re: T&P picture needed

mopacfirst
 

Both shots of T&P 40061 and T&P 40450 clearly show the transverse air reservoir, which the cars were built with.  In the mid-fifties most or all of the cars were rebuilt with steel-grid running boards and a heavier sidesill reinforcement under the door.  They had Youngstown doors as built, but most or all got five-panel Superior doors as part of the rebuild.  The 40000-40499 got National B-1 trucks as built, the 40500-40999 had Scullin trucks, later mostly replaced with ASF A-3.  Somewhere I have a photo of a car with one of each.

I'm building a couple of these right now.  The ends are black, and sides are an oxide shade of red, for the original T&P paint scheme.  After 1961, cars got an all-over boxcar red with various iterations of the buzzsaw, with some also having the diamond.

I cut the doors down from Kadee, by cutting six scale inches above the topmost rib and filing down the area just above the topmost rib.  The Kadee doors are a bit fragile, I cemented a piece of .060 on the back of the door, wide enough to just barely clear the door opening.

The Spring 2000 issue of the MPHS Eagle had good coverage of these cars, article by Ed Hawkins.

Ron Merrick


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Benjamin Hom
 

Tony Thompson wrote:
"Richard Hendrickson did nice articles for RMJ on upgrading the models for the roads they matched."

July 1995 and July 1996 issues of Railmodel Journal:


Ben Hom


Re: Flat Black

Charles Happel
 

The Ace website does not list a flat black primer in a rattle can, although it has a couple that are close.  Was something omitted from the name?
Chuck Happel


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Tim O'Connor
 


There's a single door car?? I didn't know that ! Or I have forgotten about it. :-[

Didn't Brian Leppert and Page Porter work there at that time?

Tim O'



On 2/12/2019 2:31 PM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
The most accurate freight car models ever done by MDC; ad from the March 1995 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman.


Ben Hom

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: T&P picture needed

Tim O'Connor
 


There are multiple paint scheme possibilities




On 2/12/2019 1:39 PM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
Clark Propst asked:
"I have a Champ T&P road name set I want to use. I have an IMWX square corner AAR 37 car which Ed's list says I need. I would really like a photo of one of these cars to check other details, like trucks..."

T&P 40000-40499 and 40500-40999.  Here are two to get you started.


Ben Hom

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Soo Line SS Box Cars 354 and 390

Lester Breuer
 

I finished resin scratch-build of Soo Line Box Cars 354 and 390 in 2015.  I recently posted the attached photo of 354 for a gentleman doing an Accurail kitbash.  When I posted the attached photo I said I would put the writeup and photos of building the cars on my blog.  Photos and writeup of building and finishing Soo Line Box Cars 354 and 390 are now on my blog I started to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following:

 

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

 

Lester Breuer


Re: Truck Journal Conversions

brianleppert@att.net
 

Attached is a one page article from June 1947 Modern Railroads about Union Pacific converting solid bearing trucks to roller bearings .  Annealing the side frames was mentioned.

Brian Leppert
Tahoe Model Works
Carson City, NV


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Tony Thompson
 

Naturally they lettered it for foodie roads, but it did match some of them. Richard Hendrickson did nice articles for RMJ on upgrading the models for the roads they matched.
Tony Thompson 


On Feb 12, 2019, at 11:52 AM, Jon Miller <atsfus@...> wrote:

On 2/12/2019 11:31 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
The most accurate freight car models ever done by MDC; ad from the March 1995 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman.

Ben,

    I thought the #2141 (WP) was also very good.  Same run except with end doors.  Anyway I waited years to get one (a few weeks ago) as when I tried to buy it everyone was out.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Jon Miller
 

On 2/12/2019 11:31 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
The most accurate freight car models ever done by MDC; ad from the March 1995 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman.

Ben,

    I thought the #2141 (WP) was also very good.  Same run except with end doors.  Anyway I waited years to get one (a few weeks ago) as when I tried to buy it everyone was out.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Benjamin Hom
 

The most accurate freight car models ever done by MDC; ad from the March 1995 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman.


Ben Hom


Re: T&P picture needed

Benjamin Hom
 

Clark Propst asked:
"I have a Champ T&P road name set I want to use. I have an IMWX square corner AAR 37 car which Ed's list says I need. I would really like a photo of one of these cars to check other details, like trucks..."

T&P 40000-40499 and 40500-40999.  Here are two to get you started.


Ben Hom


T&P picture needed

Clark Propst
 

I have a Champ T&P road name set I want to use. I have an IMWX square corner AAR 37 car which Ed's list says I need. I would really like a photo of one of these cars to check other details, like trucks...

Thanks
Clark Propst


Re: UCR bonsallscalecarshops D&RGW Gondolas

SHAY STARK
 

I was able to pull a list of equipment owned by Utah Railway that was either sold or destroyed from May of 1944. of the 2,000 UCR gondolas 8 had been destroyed on the Utah Railway, 6 on the Union Pacific, 3 on the Oregon Short Line, 1 on the OWR&N, 1 on the LA&SL, 5 on the Western Pacific, 3 on the D&RGW, 1 on the Great Northern and 1 on the Northern Pacific. The original 25 gondolas built by Ralston has 2 cars destroyed on the  D&RG, 1 on the Utah Railway and one on the BA&P Railway. This data while very limited would support the notion that the UCR and Utah Railway cars were predominately in use in the western United States.

Another note of interest found in the roster accompanying the report is that the first 5400 UCR gondolas that began delivery in September 1914 were lettered for Utah Railway and numbered 300 to 799. These cars were immediately leased to the D&RG as they were delivered. It was not until 1917 that half interest was sold to the LA&SL and at that time these cars were restencilled to Utah Coal Route and renumbered 20,000 to 20,499. the 1,500 additional UCR cars were ordered by LA&SL in 1917 and jointly owned with Utah Railway. Those cars were numbered 20,500 to 21,999.

Shay Stark