Re: Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Thank you Drew and Bruce. I feel a bit better knowing the herald was around in 1948. It is easier to change car numbers and built dates on commonly found cars that it is to change the herald used. Cordially, Don Valentine
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Re: Anyone make this?
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Jim, Thanks for that info. Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Monday, May 27, 2019, 11:23:46 PM CDT, Jim Gates via Groups.Io <jim.gates@...> wrote:
Hendrickson and Kaminski's Billboard Refrigerator Cars shows several Northern Refrigerator Car Co. cars in the 3600 series. The standard portion of the lettering looks correct, and one of the captions is "NRC leased many refrigerator cars to small Wisconsin canning companies, as shown here,though each of these shippers were assigned only a small number of cars (sometimes, it appears, only one or two cars)." So if it is a real company during that period then it certainly could be a real scheme. Jim Gates -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 5/27/19, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Anyone make this? Date: Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:18 PM Hello, Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale. Their research might be somewhat better. Ted Schnepf On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Tony, Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the Art Griffin site once. This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
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Re: Anyone make this?
Jim Gates
Hendrickson and Kaminski's Billboard Refrigerator Cars shows several Northern Refrigerator Car Co. cars in the 3600 series. The standard portion of the lettering looks correct, and one of the captions is "NRC leased many refrigerator cars to small Wisconsin canning companies, as shown here,though each of these shippers were assigned only a small number of cars (sometimes, it appears, only one or two cars)." So if it is a real company during that period then it certainly could be a real scheme.
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On Mon, 5/27/19, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Anyone make this? To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Date: Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:18 PM Hello, Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale. Their research might be somewhat better. Ted Schnepf On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Tony, Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the Art Griffin site once. This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
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Re: Anyone make this?
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
I just tried to search the MTH site. I have never been able to negotiate that site. Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:18:57 PM CDT, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:
Hello, Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale. Their research might be somewhat better. Ted Schnepf 126 Will Scarlet, Elgin, Ill. 60120 847=697-5353
On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:
Tony, Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the Art Griffin site once. This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
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Re: Anyone make this?
Ted Schnepf
Hello, Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale. Their research might be somewhat better. Ted Schnepf 126 Will Scarlet, Elgin, Ill. 60120 847=697-5353
On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:
Tony, Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the Art Griffin site once. This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works _._,_._,_
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Re: Anyone make this?
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Tony, Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the Art Griffin site once. This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL Roger Huber Deer Creek Locomotive Works
On Monday, May 27, 2019, 8:16:14 PM CDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
Is it a real scheme or just a dream? Tony Thompson
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Re: Photo: Delivering A 1957 Chevy
Benjamin Hom
Bob Chaparro wrote: "Photo: Delivering A 1957 Chevy End door boxcar: https://66.media.tumblr.com/c3b25a8a106e913adac4a0061d1acb77/tumblr_n7jd1n0aG81qcdxvpo1_1280.jpg Actually enclosed bi-level auto racks. These cars lacked side doors. Sylvan once offered resin models of these early CN cars in HO scale. CN later lengthened the design to 75 ft, and these cars were acquired by Auto-Train Corporation, later going to Amtrak. Ben Hom
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Re: Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'
Don,
The anthracite herald appeared at least as early as 1942. I have a photo of READING HTs 67300, new, 9/42, in this scheme. For a color photo of HTf 89252 see page 38 of the Reading Color Guide showing it with a 1944 reweigh that also appears to be a new repaint. I also have a color photo of Hth 75096 in this scheme with a reweigh of STC 5-48, for a car built in 1917, so no, it was not just applied to newly built cars. Regards, Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt@...>
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 7:55 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'
Reading hoppers with this paint have given me sme grief. Can anyone advise me with any certainty as to
what year the red patch herald began t be used. Did it only come through on new cars such as the offset hoppers
in 1952, that Kadee has offered, and later or might it have been earlier. Also, was it used when repainting the
hoppers and, if so, beginning when. My cut-off date is December 1948 but I like the look of these cars and will
have a few around IF they can be rostered without bending the time line.
Thanks in advance,, Don Valentine
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Re: Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'
Drew M.
Don,
I can't give you an exact date off the top of my head but the "America's Largest..." herald was introduced in the early 1950s on an order of offset side, two bay hoppers. Cars rebuilt received it when painted. The herald was phased out as a money saving move in the early 1960s. The guys over at the Reading Modeler website have much information on the Reading. John Hall included info on the herald in his two bay hopper set which, since I was looking for one, I could not locate in my stash.
Drew Marshall in Philly, PA
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On May 27, 2019, at 20:55, "Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io" <yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available
Folks,
The Spring issue (#108) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the PRRT&HS web site at: http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm Bruce Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS
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Re: Anyone make this?
Tony Thompson
Is it a real scheme or just a dream?
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On May 27, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:
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Photo: Delivering A 1957 Chevy
Photo: Delivering A 1957 Chevy End door boxcar: https://66.media.tumblr.com/c3b25a8a106e913adac4a0061d1acb77/tumblr_n7jd1n0aG81qcdxvpo1_1280.jpg Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Reading hoppers with this paint have given me sme grief. Can anyone advise me with any certainty as to what year the red patch herald began t be used. Did it only come through on new cars such as the offset hoppers in 1952, that Kadee has offered, and later or might it have been earlier. Also, was it used when repainting the hoppers and, if so, beginning when. My cut-off date is December 1948 but I like the look of these cars and will have a few around IF they can be rostered without bending the time line. Thanks in advance,, Don Valentine
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Re: Results, was Re: Super Clean Degreaser to remove lettering
Nelson Moyer
It looks good to me.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of A&Y Dave in MD
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 5:59 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] Results, was Re: Super Clean Degreaser to remove lettering
Okay,
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Rapido NP DS Boxcars
gary laakso
The car fleet ended up with many duplicate numbers, so the weekend hobby time has been spent upgrading the cars and changing their numbers. Kadee scale couplers became and the replacements and InterMountain semi scale wheel sets were substituted and brushed painted as the renumbering was underway. Solvaset was able to soften the numbers after the second drop was allowed to evaporate. Some easy rubbing removed the last number of the six models completed. The NPRA decal set for Rapido Boxcars was such a perfect match that the Rapido cars could have been decaled. Of course, the earliest of the boxcars required the removal and replacement of the very small car number used in the NP style of car capacity on the right side in addition to the large number on the left side. The assembled Sunshine kits for this series compares very well with the Rapidos.
Gary Laakso Northwest of Mike Brock
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Anyone make this?
Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
Does anyone make either this car or decals in HO?
Thanks, Roger Huber
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Results, was Re: Super Clean Degreaser to remove lettering
Okay,
I added the Ghost White replacement numeral. What do you think? Dave -- Sent from David Bott's desktop pc -- ____________________________ David Bott, modeling the A&Y in '34
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Re: SAL AF-5
Brent Greer
Thanks for the update Chad. Keep us informed when you are ready to release. I'll be good for an order !
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Chad Boas via Groups.Io <chadboas@...>
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 12:17:18 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] SAL AF-5 I'll have a new kit or two for the Collinsville meet.
Fenton and I have worked together and come up with ends, doors and lower side sills to make the SAL AF-5. I used a Branchline AAR kit. Here it is still needing some work. Chad Boas
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Re: Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'
At 01:10 PM 5/27/2019, Dennis Storzek wrote:
<snip> Be aware that in older B&W prints it is not uncommon for areas of great contrast, such as white lettering on a dark car side, to 'swell' as the bright light affects the film emulsion slightly outside of the actual boundaries of the white object. When the negative was printed, this makes the lettering appear bolder than it should be....and that contrast flare can make '8' and '6' nearly indistinguishable, as well as 'O' and 'D' or even 'B' and 'E'. There are some lettering styles that did have rounded serifs, more common today than during the steam era.I have yet to identify a complete rounded serif freight car lettering set from the steam era. One can only imagine the greater difficulty in shop fabricating the stencils; with a rounded end needing to be cut at the end of every stroke. THROW AWAY that 'Arial Rounded MT Bold' !!! Richard
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Re: Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'
Dennis Storzek
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:29 AM, Richard Brennan wrote:
More caveats:Very good points, to which I'll add: Different sizes of prototype lettering usually had different drawings, the reason being that as the lettering got smaller, the proportion between the thick and thin strokes became less, so that the thin strokes didn't appear to disappear in the small lettering. Using one style and just reducing it will usually yield small letters that look anemic, and don't print well. Be aware that in older B&W prints it is not uncommon for areas of great contrast, such as white lettering on a dark car side, to 'swell' as the bright light affects the film emulsion slightly outside of the actual boundaries of the white object. When the negative was printed, this makes the lettering appear bolder than it should be. This can normally be spotted by comparing multiple photos. It also shows itself in a single image by things that should be perfectly sharp square corners, like the ends of the serifs, taking on a rounded appearance. There are some lettering styles that did have rounded serifs, more common today than during the steam era. Dennis Storzek
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