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Re: Unloading Airplane Engines
Jesus Pe�a
Pardon the clumsy link, but I believe these are B-24 nacelle/engine assemblies. Note the air intakes on the “cheeks” of the nacelle and also the cutout for the airfoil. Also the B-24’s were produced in Fort Worth Texas. Compare the assemblies in Bob’s photo to the nacelles shown in the link. The picture shows the assembly line in Fort Worth. In response to Bruce Smith concern of the Turbochargers. Some variants of the B24 has Superchargers if I recall correctly. I am away from my reference materials Hope this helps Jesus Peña Concord, California https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/B-24_Liberator_Consolidated-Vultee_Plant%252C_Fort_Worth_Texas.jpg&imgrefurl=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:B-24_Liberator_Consolidated-Vultee_Plant,_Fort_Worth_Texas.jpg&tbnid=6UwsZqdnFaR26M&vet=1&docid=zPq1dLBsWoqSaM&w=860&h=665&hl=en&source=sh/x/im
On Monday, May 20, 2019, 11:06 AM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:
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Jesus Peña Concord,California
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Smoke Stack Load
It appears that the middle flat car is only a spacer. The caption writer didn't know what a brake wheel was. https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth427020/m1/1/?q=railroad Caption: Photograph of a smokestack built for the Magnolia Petroleum Company. The unit was built and installed by Alcorn Combustion Company out of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, using materials provided by John Dollinger Jr., Inc. The photograph shows the stack laid on a flatbed train for transportation to final location. Two men are at the bottom right adjusting valves at the end of the rail car. The train has stopped within a railroad crossing and two automobiles are waiting to the right. Houses and buildings are in the background. The back of the photo is stamped "BM Photograph Business Men's Studio Beaumont, Texas" Location is on the Santa Fe Railway. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Unloading Airplane Engines
Benjamin Hom
Bob Chaparro wrote: "An undated photo. Note the packaging of the propellers. Perhaps one of our airplane experts can tell us what kind of engines these are." Cowlings are consistent with the Brewster SB2A Buccaneer (note the symmetrical intakes), which would make the engines Wright R-2600 radial engines. Ben Hom
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Early Version Of Auto-Train?
Early Version Of Auto-Train? https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth36627/?q=railroad Caption: Photograph of a touring car being transported on a railroad car from Orange, Texas to a vacation site. The owner is probably Lutcher Stark, taken in 1914. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Unloading Airplane Engines
My initial response was Pratt and Whitney R-1830 for the B-24. The B-24 also had a 3 bladed prop. I’m concerned however because I don’t really see the prominent supercharger that the B-24. The wing cutouts on the engines also look appropriate for the B-24.
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Regards
Bruce
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL
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Unloading Airplane Engines
An undated photo. Note the packaging of the propellers. https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth41072/?q=railroad Perhaps one of our airplane experts can tell us what kind of engines these are. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Image of SWIFT TANK LINE tank cars
Todd Sullivan
It looks like the photo was taken at the Fort Worth stock yards, judging from the structures and the hill behind them. The area is now a tourist attraction, and they have saved a number of the stock pens and associated structures, but not the meat processing buildings owned by Swift, Armour and others. Pretty interesting place to visit.
Todd Sullivan (who is moving to the Dallas area this week)
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Re: Off topic question
Jack Mullen
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 07:06 AM, Clark Propst wrote:
One time I've always wondered about is why a 50' car with only a 6' door?Because C&NW figured that anything that could be loaded thru a 6' door into a 40' car would fit thru the same size door in a 50' car. That's a smart*** way of saying that door size is driven by nature of the freight, and how it's loaded. These cars were intended for merchandise, not lumber, machinery, autos or other large stuff. The 50' length provided more volume for relatively low-density package freight. In 1940, manually loading using hand trucks would be the norm. So a six foot door would suffice. A larger door opening would impose some additional structural cost. Post-WW2, palletization and forklifts changed the rules of the game, hence later cars had bigger doors, and these ones got the homebrew door mod. Jack Mullen
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Re: Photo: SFRD Reefers - Shipping lettuce at Aquila, Arizona, 1959
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 06:42 AM, Bob Chaparro wrote:
a Class Rr-39 reefer. This is one of 170 cars rebuilt circa 1945-46 from Class Rr-2, -3 and -4 reefers.In pristine new paint within 10 years of rebuild too? Of equal interest perhaps are the 'ring ins' from ART and MDT? regards davew
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Re: Image of SWIFT TANK LINE tank cars
At least some of these were built by Bettendorf. See the
files section at
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\) Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 10:13 AM To: STMFC Subject: [RealSTMFC] Image of SWIFT TANK LINE tank cars Hi List Members,
Image of SWIFT TANK LINE tank cars. They appear to
be built with trussrod and end bulkheads.
Also, there are box or stock cars lettered for
SA&AP in the distance
Claus Schlund
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Re: Mystery Load
Great find. It is amazing what the body of members here can find.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Off topic question
Tom Madden
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 08:18 AM, O Fenton Wells wrote:
Yes. The upper door hangers are only on the 6' door but the lower guides are spaced for the 8' mash-up door. And look at the length of the door tracks. Tom Madden
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Image of SWIFT TANK LINE tank cars
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Image of SWIFT TANK LINE tank cars. They appear to
be built with trussrod and end bulkheads.
Also, there are box or stock cars lettered for
SA&AP in the distance
Claus Schlund
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Another Photo: Pierce Fordyce Oil Association Tank Cars
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Bob and List Members,
There is another view of tank cars marked for
Pierce Fordyce Oil Association at ther link below...
Claus Schlund
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Re: Mystery Load
Wayne
Jerry, I don't know what Lithium Stearate Grease is but it looks as if you nailed it. Good Work! Wayne
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Off topic question
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Clark;
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Or ever better, see attached. Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 10:56 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Off topic question On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 07:06 AM, Clark Propst wrote: One time I've always wondered about is why a 50' car with only a 6' door? CW Propst I don't know for sure, but I would imagine merchandise. It seems around 1940 there were a whole bunch of roads ordering 50 ton 50 foot cars with 6' doors, in my neck of the woods C&NW, MILW, and Soo Line all had small groups that were not repeated. They would be ideal for LCL service, and could easily be converted to express boxes should the need arise. The coming of WWII seemed to change whatever the thinking was, and the orders were not repeated after the war. The Soo also rebuilt their cars with eight foot doors; the door opening was only expanded to the right, IIRC, leaving the new doors slightly off center. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Photo: Pierce Fordyce Oil Association Tank Cars
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Bob and List Members,
There is also a nice view of tank car for Texas
Refining Co reporting marks T R CO 250. Also, there is a Swift reefer in the
background.
Enjoy!
Claus Schlund
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Re: Off topic question
Dennis Storzek
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 07:06 AM, Clark Propst wrote:
One time I've always wondered about is why a 50' car with only a 6' door?I don't know for sure, but I would imagine merchandise. It seems around 1940 there were a whole bunch of roads ordering 50 ton 50 foot cars with 6' doors, in my neck of the woods C&NW, MILW, and Soo Line all had small groups that were not repeated. They would be ideal for LCL service, and could easily be converted to express boxes should the need arise. The coming of WWII seemed to change whatever the thinking was, and the orders were not repeated after the war. The Soo also rebuilt their cars with eight foot doors; the door opening was only expanded to the right, IIRC, leaving the new doors slightly off center. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Off topic question
Clark call me crazy but the 50 ft car looks like it has a home made 8 ft. door, standard 6' door plus 2 ft section welded on to it. Of course the C&NW would have lost contest points for not putting the proper 8 ft door on the car....I'm certain. SR did this with some 50 DD cars to get 15 ft openings and I think D&RGW modified some doors as well. Wasn't pretty but it worked and the cars were at the ends of their lives so don't want to invest heavily in remodels. Fenton
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 10:06 AM Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote: Thanks for the great information guys! These cars were in bagged cement service mostly between the plant in Mason City and satellite facilities, mainly in the Burnsville - Twin Cities. --
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Re: Off topic question
Clark Propst
Thanks for the great information guys! These cars were in bagged cement service mostly between the plant in Mason City and satellite facilities, mainly in the Burnsville - Twin Cities.
A very interesting project for sure. One time I've always wondered about is why a 50' car with only a 6' door? CW Propst
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