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1956 ORER has been sold

 

1956 ORER has been sold.  Thank you!  HTG


Re: Photo: ATSF Boxcar 212625 Bx-12 (1948)

brianleppert@att.net
 

I think that's a black roof, just not much contrast from the red.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


Re: GTW 583200 series autocar with 7' door - what era?

Robert kirkham
 

Thanks Tim - I have received off list some help on the CV and GTW cars, but at the end of this, no solution for this odd ball kit.  

Rob


On Nov 22, 2020, at 8:31 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

On 11/21/2020 2:27 PM, Robert kirkham wrote:
Hi Andy - Am I missing a referent to the 7’ side doors?   The asterisk indicates more than one door per side.  So - I remain puzzled . . . 

Rob

On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Andy Laurent via groups.io <andy.laurent@...> wrote:

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 06:35 AM, James Brewer wrote:
Perfect, Jim.

583200-583701

XM

Boxcar

502

2/1929-7/1977

40.6

10.0

10.6*

3712

PSC

4-5/29

Stl. frame. 9'1" end dr. some re#441500-441849 series 12/46-5/47, 585203-585388 series 6-10/48 & 585389-585884 series 3-10/49.



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts <gtw_583675 40ft_DD_box_SS.ebay.jpg>


Photo: ATSF Boxcar 212625 Bx-12 (1948)

Andy Carlson
 

A survivor with one side remaining in Santa Fe paint can be found in Southern California's town of Inyokern, just below Ridgecrest at a Hardware and feed store. A high desert community.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Sunday, November 22, 2020, 9:39:51 AM PST, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:



Re: Photo: ATSF Boxcar 212625 Bx-12 (1948)

Scott
 

Well, this one has a mineral red roof on it and a 1948 re-weigh. I guess I have been painting them wrong all this time which is disappointing.  I thought they still had black roofs then.  Certainly make painting then easier I suppose. 

Scott McDonald 


Photo: ATSF Boxcar 212625 Bx-12 (1948)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: ATSF Boxcar 212625 Bx-12 (1948)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/55053/rec/56

Click on the arrows in the upper right hand corner of the photo to enlarge it and scroll to enlarge it further.

Car built in 1930. The car height was extended with a new steel panel roof and upper side and end panels during a minor rebuilding program in 1941-1944.

Car has a switching tag or card ("52") on the door.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: Rock Island Boxcar 22335 (1952)

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Rock Island Boxcar 22335 (1952)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/46500/rec/40

Click on the arrows in the upper right hand corner of the photo to enlarge it and scroll to enlarge it further.

Built 1951 by Pullman-Standard.

Note "New Roof" stencil at upper right hand corner.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: GTW 583200 series autocar with 7' door - what era?

Tim O'Connor
 

On 11/21/2020 2:27 PM, Robert kirkham wrote:
Hi Andy - Am I missing a referent to the 7’ side doors?   The asterisk indicates more than one door per side.  So - I remain puzzled . . . 

Rob

On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Andy Laurent via groups.io <andy.laurent@...> wrote:

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 06:35 AM, James Brewer wrote:
Perfect, Jim.

583200-583701

XM

Boxcar

502

2/1929-7/1977

40.6

10.0

10.6*

3712

PSC

4-5/29

Stl. frame. 9'1" end dr. some re#441500-441849 series 12/46-5/47, 585203-585388 series 6-10/48 & 585389-585884 series 3-10/49.



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Fw: [RealSTMFC] Photos: "New Roof" Stencil (1945-1946)

Thomas Evans
 

That's what I get for assuming stuff.
Should let the NG experts do the talking!

Tom


Re: Slide and Negative Scanners

Steve SANDIFER
 

This looks great, but I don’t have a Canon 100 mm macro that will go 1:1.  That will set me back over $1000.  But it is interesting.

Back in my film days I did use a film camera on a bellows with an El Nikkor enlarging lens and a slide carrier to duplicate slides. A pin registered mount allowed double, triple, etc. exposure for titles, etc.  Those days are (happily) gone.

 

 

J. Stephen Sandifer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of devansprr
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 12:04 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Slide and Negative Scanners

 

Charlie,

This is an interesting alternative, although it only works for 35mm slides. It came up on the RR Historical Society SIG group. Credit to Jeff Eggert over at CNWHS:

http://www.yardoffice.com/archives/howto/slideshootingdslr.html

In addition to being pretty fast, if you already have a slide projector and DLSR, it is of nominal cost.

At some point I need to use this setup for my non-RR family slide collection. I used a Canon film scanner in the past, and liked it very much, but it has suffered a hardware failure after about 15 years and I have not yet attempted a repair (nor do I know if parts are available.)

But my Canon scanner could never scan close to the 300 slides per hour rate that Jeff claims.

Dave Evans


Re: F/S: January 1956 Official Railway Equipment Register

Allan Smith
 


I will take it

Smithal9@...

Al Smith Sonora CA

On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 03:45:37 PM PST, Hugh Guillaume via groups.io <mguill1224@...> wrote:


F/S: one copy January 1956 Official Railway Equipment Register, very good condition, $35 plus postage, offered by Hugh T Guillaume, mguill1224 at aol dot com


Looking for Sunshine Models Kit #24.24 Swift 37' Reefer

Chuck Cover
 

Group,

I am looking for the Sunshine kit #24.24.  I will trade for other Sunshine kits or purchase.  I have four other Sunshine Swift kits as well some others to offer for trades.  Please contact me off list.  Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash

Bill Keene
 

Enjoyed the pics. Not a problem. 

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA

On Nov 21, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Chuck Cover <chuck.cover@...> wrote:

Hi Eric,
 
I wanted to get back to you to thank you again for the help you provided on the Accurail 1800 series boxcar kitbash.  I went with the DL&W 36’ car partly because of the information that you sent me and because I have a DL&W interchange on my layout so DL&W cars fit in nicely.
 
I have attached a couple of photos.  I shaved off all of the cast on grabs and other details, followed your notes for your kitbash of the DL&W boxcar and added carver cut levers and end of car air hoses as well as AB brakes since I model the mid-50s and K4 decals.  I had not used the K4 decals before and thought that they were great.  Not sure if the Andrews trucks are correct, any suggestions?
 
Thanks again and take care,
 
Chuck
 
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash
 
A few railroads used ends similar to the indestructible design to upgrade older cars. They turn up on wood sheathed B&O, DL&W, and Erie boxcars. 
 
It was determined awhile back by a couple B&O modelers that the ends used on B&O cars were home built and had differences to the ends used on D&H, DL&W, and Erie cars. IIRC, one major difference is the angled pieces point a different way on the B&O cars. 
 
This end view of an Erie boxcar shows the design, but the components don’t seem a heavy as what was used on B&O cars.
 
Compare the Erie car end with the B&O car in the attachment.
 
 
Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN
 
 
 
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Cover
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 12:44 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash
 
Group,

I was looking at Ray Breyer's discussion of the Accurail 1800 series boxcar and kitbash posiblities for the D&H 36' DS boxcar.  I would like to find more information on the "indestructible end" and the inverse Hutchins end.  I know that Funaro has models with the inverse Hutchins ends so they may be a source if they sell the ends separately.  Are there any other possible sources for this end?

Are there any drawings or articles which I can reference to bash the "indestructible ends"?  

Thanks,

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM 

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Re: Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash

Chuck Cover
 

Sorry everyone, the previous message should have just gone to Eric.  Someday, I’ll get the hang of this dang computer.

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM

_._,_._,_


Re: Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash

Chuck Cover
 

Hi Eric,

 

I wanted to get back to you to thank you again for the help you provided on the Accurail 1800 series boxcar kitbash.  I went with the DL&W 36’ car partly because of the information that you sent me and because I have a DL&W interchange on my layout so DL&W cars fit in nicely.

 

I have attached a couple of photos.  I shaved off all of the cast on grabs and other details, followed your notes for your kitbash of the DL&W boxcar and added carver cut levers and end of car air hoses as well as AB brakes since I model the mid-50s and K4 decals.  I had not used the K4 decals before and thought that they were great.  Not sure if the Andrews trucks are correct, any suggestions?

 

Thanks again and take care,

 

Chuck

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:46 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash

 

A few railroads used ends similar to the indestructible design to upgrade older cars. They turn up on wood sheathed B&O, DL&W, and Erie boxcars.

 

It was determined awhile back by a couple B&O modelers that the ends used on B&O cars were home built and had differences to the ends used on D&H, DL&W, and Erie cars. IIRC, one major difference is the angled pieces point a different way on the B&O cars.

 

This end view of an Erie boxcar shows the design, but the components don’t seem a heavy as what was used on B&O cars.

http://hansmanns.org/images/canton_industry_2.JPG

 

Compare the Erie car end with the B&O car in the attachment.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Cover
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 12:44 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Accurail 1800 series bocxcar kitbash

 

Group,

I was looking at Ray Breyer's discussion of the Accurail 1800 series boxcar and kitbash posiblities for the D&H 36' DS boxcar.  I would like to find more information on the "indestructible end" and the inverse Hutchins end.  I know that Funaro has models with the inverse Hutchins ends so they may be a source if they sell the ends separately.  Are there any other possible sources for this end?

Are there any drawings or articles which I can reference to bash the "indestructible ends"? 

Thanks,

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: GTW 583200 series autocar with 7' door - what era?

Robert kirkham
 

Hi Andy - Am I missing a referent to the 7’ side doors?   The asterisk indicates more than one door per side.  So - I remain puzzled . . . 

Rob

On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Andy Laurent via groups.io <andy.laurent@...> wrote:

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 06:35 AM, James Brewer wrote:
Perfect, Jim.

583200-583701

XM

Boxcar

502

2/1929-7/1977

40.6

10.0

10.6*

3712

PSC

4-5/29

Stl. frame. 9'1" end dr. some re#441500-441849 series 12/46-5/47, 585203-585388 series 6-10/48 & 585389-585884 series 3-10/49.



Re: GTW 583200 series autocar with 7' door - what era?

Andy Laurent
 

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 06:35 AM, James Brewer wrote:
Perfect, Jim.

583200-583701

XM

Boxcar

502

2/1929-7/1977

40.6

10.0

10.6*

3712

PSC

4-5/29

Stl. frame. 9'1" end dr. some re#441500-441849 series 12/46-5/47, 585203-585388 series 6-10/48 & 585389-585884 series 3-10/49.


Photo: NP Automobile Boxcar 6181 (1934)

Andy Carlson
 

And not just single sheathed cars. Compare the HO and real close ups of DS cars from my attachments.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 10:26:54 AM PST, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:


Hi Schuyler and List members,
 
Maybe this tells us something about how our single sheathed models should look?!?
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Photo: NP Automobile Boxcar 6181 (1934)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Schuyler and List members,
 
Maybe this tells us something about how our single sheathed models should look?!?
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: NP Automobile Boxcar 6181 (1934)

Better than that, I saved a copy of the expanded image and zoomed in on that.  I >CAN< see some indication of joints but it simply was not “for sure” for me.

 

Thanks to the respondents for the clarity.

 

Schuyler

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert kirkham
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: NP Automobile Boxcar 6181 (1934)

 

Did you click on the expand icon before zooming?  When I do that I can see the cracks between the individual boards.  Here’s a snippet:

 

Rob 

 

On Nov 21, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:

 

Even though I’ve zoomed in quite a ways, could someone confirm my impression that this is a wood-sheathed car?

 

The door’s wood, but I am not completely sure that the car side is wood.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:52 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: NP Automobile Boxcar 6181 (1934)

 

Photo: NP Automobile Boxcar 6181 (1934)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

Click on the arrows in the upper right hand corner of the photo to enlarge it and scroll to enlarge it further.

Car built in 1923.

The car's reporting marks are repeated on the right end.

Although not legible, there is a car inspection card above the right wheel of the left truck. 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

 


Photo: NP Automobile Boxcar 6181 (1934)

Andy Carlson
 

It is a wood sided car. Like a good quality house floor, the well-milled wood sheathing slats are tight fitting. In the years to come, the weaker flat-grained boards will come to light highlighting individual boards before the gaps increase, which in modeling we over exaggerate all the time.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 10:12:26 AM PST, Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee@...> wrote:


Even though I’ve zoomed in quite a ways, could someone confirm my impression that this is a wood-sheathed car?

 

The door’s wood, but I am not completely sure that the car side is wood.

 

Schuyler

 


Photo: NP Automobile Boxcar 6181 (1934)

A photo from the Denver Public Library:

https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/57922/rec/104

Click on the arrows in the upper right hand corner of the photo to enlarge it and scroll to enlarge it further.

Car built in 1923.

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