Re: Tangent Tank Car Additions
Good idea! I never thought to leave the wheels on. I removed the wheels to use for a gondola load and just use the axle as a paint block.
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On May 10, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:
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Describing Your Hobby is Terminated
Guys, Those of you that are confused about the function of the Steam Era Freight Car Group, read this:
“ALL SUBJECTS OTHER THAN THOSE DIRECTLY ASSOCIATED WITH STEAM ERA FREIGHT CARS ARE PROHIBITED FROM MEMBER MESSAGES.”
And, “The objectives include the sharing of information about North American, standard gauge railroad freight cars in the period 1900-1960 inclusive including their operation, distribution and the various techniques of building models of them. Discussions about the cargos of freight cars are permitted but only as they are directly associated with freight cars.”
As I pointed out in a previous message, comments about steam engines [ such as 4014 ] are permitted as long as they include references to steam era freight cars.
To be sure, comments regarding “Describing your hobby” are completely out of scope on the RealSTMFC and the thread concerning that subject is terminated.
If there is interest in forming a group to discuss “Describing your hobby”, I will be glad to form one….just not as part of the RealSTMFC.
Mike Brock RealSTMFC Bossman
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Re: Tangent Tank Car Additions
Michael Gross
Dowels: another good idea!!!
-- Michael Gross Pasadena, CA
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Re: Describing your hobby
BillM
Peter Thank you. I enjoy all model railroads especially in that time frame. I can learn and get ideas from different sources even though I model the Southeast. Thanks again and keep the posts coming. Blessings Bill
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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 12:56 PM To: 'main@RealSTMFC.groups.io' Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Describing your hobby
Hi Bill, The link is https://newhavenrailroad1959.webs.com/ it's very specific to the New Haven, I'm afraid.
Regards, Peter ----------------------------------------- From: "BillM" Peter What is the link to your website? I apologize if it was posted and I missed it. Blessings Bill Michael
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Over the years of responding, for me, the most suitable response is; "I play with trains". As others have commented usual responses range from knowing someone in the family that also plays with or used to play with trains, to an admission the querent used to play with trains. VERY rarely, but sometimes, they respond they also play with trains or their spouse plays with (or collects) trains. I can't say I've met many nasty folks - whatever the definition is - but the worst I get is a grunt to which I respond; "Hey! In some ways I guess I never grew up!" If there is any follow-up conversation I say my interests have changed over the years and I model a specific railroad in New England and tell them they can take a look at my website if they are curious. Sometimes mentioning New England changes the course of the conversation to visits they have made or family that live there, etc. If the initial response is either fish eyes on ice or deer in the headlights I go straight to the "never grew up line", chuckle and move the conversation along.
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Re: Describing your hobby
Paul Doggett
Well said Barry
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On 11 May 2019, at 18:36, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
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Re: Describing your hobby
I just tell all that it is my therapy and it keeps me out of the bars.....some of the time!!!!!!!!
On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 1:24 PM Barry Bennett <barrybennetttoo@...> wrote:
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Re: Describing your hobby
Paul Doggett
Oh Fenton I know what you mean at 6’6” they don’t usually say much even though I am getting on a bit 71 years
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On 11 May 2019, at 18:12, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
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Re: Describing your hobby
Barry Bennett
Like Paul, and Fenton, I really couldn't care less what people think or say. If they comment I usually reply " well it's more interesting than wandering around in a field knocking a little ball along in front of me, and is a whole lot safer too." Barry Bennett, England. About 60 miles east of Paul.
On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 18:12, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
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Re: Describing your hobby
Paul, I totally agree with you. I stopped trying to make myself look good to non MR's(It's impossible in my case anyway), When they ask about the Thomas engine I just smile and say...not yet. Fenton
On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 12:50 PM Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote: I don’t even try they accept me as a biker and railroad modeller or they can lump it other people’s opinions don’t bother me they take me as they find me or they go and take a run. --
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Re: Describing your hobby
Peter Ness
Hi Bill,
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The link is https://newhavenrailroad1959.webs.com/ it's very specific to the New Haven, I'm afraid. Regards, Peter ----------------------------------------- From: "BillM"To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" Cc: Sent: Saturday May 11 2019 11:23:33AM Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Describing your hobby Peter What is the link to your website? I apologize if it was posted and I missed it. Blessings Bill Michael
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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 7:40 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Describing your hobby
Over the years of responding, for me, the most suitable response is; "I play with trains". As others have commented usual responses range from knowing someone in the family that also plays with or used to play with trains, to an admission the querent used to play with trains. VERY rarely, but sometimes, they respond they also play with trains or their spouse plays with (or collects) trains. I can't say I've met many nasty folks - whatever the definition is - but the worst I get is a grunt to which I respond; "Hey! In some ways I guess I never grew up!" If there is any follow-up conversation I say my interests have changed over the years and I model a specific railroad in New England and tell them they can take a look at my website if they are curious. Sometimes mentioning New England changes the course of the conversation to visits they have made or family that live there, etc. If the initial response is either fish eyes on ice or deer in the headlights I go straight to the "never grew up line", chuckle and move the conversation along.
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Re: Describing your hobby
Paul Doggett
I don’t even try they accept me as a biker and railroad modeller or they can lump it other people’s opinions don’t bother me they take me as they find me or they go and take a run.
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On 11 May 2019, at 17:00, Nolan Hinshaw via Groups.Io <cearnog=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:On May 11, 2019, at 07:53, Tom Madden via Groups.Io <pullmanboss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:I de-emphasize the trains, stating that I simulate historical transportation systems. Drilling deeper to railroads, I state that the trains are merely actors on the stages I mess with.
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On May 11, 2019, at 07:53, Tom Madden via Groups.Io <pullmanboss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I de-emphasize the trains, stating that I simulate historical transportation systems. Drilling deeper to railroads, I state that the trains are merely actors on the stages I mess with. — ^<@<.@* }"_# | -@$&/_% !( @|=> ;`+$?^? ,#"~|)^G
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Re: Tangent Tank Car Additions
Group,
Forgot to mention, dowels fully protect axle socket from grit blasting. Taper is a little less than shape of socket. Dan Smith
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Re: Tangent Tank Car Additions
Hi Jerry,
I think you might mean me. I have , I hope, put in a photo to show what you said. Dowels and a Tichy USRA truck as it would come out of blaster. Dan Smith
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Re: Tangent Tank Car Additions
Jerry
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That's also a good idea - I think I will just pull the wheels off of some Athearn plastic wheelsets and use the AXLES ! This may keep grit and paint out of the inside of the journal bearings. :-) Tim O'
On 5/11/2019 3:49 AM, jerryglow2 wrote:
Back when I was in SoCal and ran a model paint shop, one friend sharpened dowls to use in place of wheelsets when we media blasted trucks. --
*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: Describing your hobby
BillM
Peter What is the link to your website? I apologize if it was posted and I missed it. Blessings Bill Michael
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From: Peter Ness
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 7:40 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Describing your hobby
Over the years of responding, for me, the most suitable response is; "I play with trains". As others have commented usual responses range from knowing someone in the family that also plays with or used to play with trains, to an admission the querent used to play with trains. VERY rarely, but sometimes, they respond they also play with trains or their spouse plays with (or collects) trains. I can't say I've met many nasty folks - whatever the definition is - but the worst I get is a grunt to which I respond; "Hey! In some ways I guess I never grew up!" If there is any follow-up conversation I say my interests have changed over the years and I model a specific railroad in New England and tell them they can take a look at my website if they are curious. Sometimes mentioning New England changes the course of the conversation to visits they have made or family that live there, etc. If the initial response is either fish eyes on ice or deer in the headlights I go straight to the "never grew up line", chuckle and move the conversation along.
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Re: Describing your hobby
Tom Madden
I try to avoid using the word "trains" in a first reply. I say "I'm a railroad historian" and see where that leads. If pressed, I'll say i do research which gives me the opportunity to travel and give presentations. If you've ever gone to an RPM meet, even if you've not given a clinic, some variation of this approach get's you out of the "playing with trains" arena. If someone wants to go deeper, I try to work 3D printing into the conversation. Even if you're not involved in it, mentioning the application of 3D printing or other advanced technologies to our hobby will give you the conversational upper hand and, often, pique someone's interest and lead to a really rewarding conversation. Which is the point, right?
Tom Madden
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?
Randy Hammill
While the paint schemes are accurate for the most part (I haven’t been able to verify UTLX), they have started to use some road numbers I couldn’t verify. I only have a few photos and some as-built information, though. I can tell you for ones I’ve confirmed as-built aren’t always in the ‘47 or later ORER, but this doesn’t surprise me since it seems tank cars changed lessees fairly frequently.
Your best bet is to use the Hendrickson article for the Trix cars, combined with the ORER for your era to narrow down a few to get. You can send me a direct message on specific cars you’re looking for and I can see if I can help. Randy -- Randy Hammill Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954 -- — Randy Hammill Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954 | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?
See message 161525 and following from this past
January. I didn't include enough key words in my message to make it easy
to find with the group's search function, which actually works quite
well.
Steve Hile
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of devansprr Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 12:16 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes? Back in March 2017 on the old list, some discussion of the first run of these cars suggested that the paint schemes were likely authentic due to use of photographs and ACF paint records from the Barriger collection. For the UTLX tanks now offered, the car numbers do not appear to match the ORER for either 1943 or 1945. (ORER lists numbers in this range as car type LT - rated at 100,000 pounds capacity.) Is BLI taking accurate paint schemes for various tank cars but applying them to models that may be off considerably from the prototype car? Or is the UTLX model an outlier, or am I misinterpreting the ORER? I tried searching the archives here but did not find many 2019 posts about the latest BLI run. Thanks-in-advance, Dave Evans
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Re: Describing your hobby
Peter Ness
Over the years of responding, for me, the most suitable response is; "I play with trains". As others have commented usual responses range from knowing someone in the family that also plays with or used to play with trains, to an admission the querent used to play with trains. VERY rarely, but sometimes, they respond they also play with trains or their spouse plays with (or collects) trains. I can't say I've met many nasty folks - whatever the definition is - but the worst I get is a grunt to which I respond; "Hey! In some ways I guess I never grew up!" If there is any follow-up conversation I say my interests have changed over the years and I model a specific railroad in New England and tell them they can take a look at my website if they are curious. Sometimes mentioning New England changes the course of the conversation to visits they have made or family that live there, etc. If the initial response is either fish eyes on ice or deer in the headlights I go straight to the "never grew up line", chuckle and move the conversation along.
One thing I've also noticed over the years; in many - but not all - cases the hobby question is asked of me AFTER the person has already told me their hobby. If they have already told me of their hobby, I pattern my response along the lines of theirs; if it was a brief "I collect guns" I reply; "I collect trains", if they have waxed eloquent over the fascinating and creative world of scrapbooking I counter with the joys of modeling the New Haven Railroad in 1959. If this is not what prompted their question, it is usually my follow-up. Heck, of someone wants to take the chance to ask of my hobby, lets put them on the spot as well. I've had the question asked on job interviews and give exactly the same response. Over years I've learned from the HR POV this can be a checkbox question. It is better to have a hobby than not. And it is better to have a hobby that is NOT surfing the interwebs or playing video games. In interviews with hiring managers I have learned that having a hobby that involves use of hands is a strong plus, indicating a "hands on" approach to problem solving - a very desirable trait in any field. Little do they know...but still, I like to think there is some merit to their line of thinking. I have a link to my website on my resume and LinkedIn. In (hopefully) my most recent hire (back to my home in New Hampshire, last planned job before retirement), my hiring manager posted a complete sentence that my hobby is model railroading in the org announcement. To date at work, no one has contacted me about model trains, but 4-5 guys have come to introduce themselves because I drive a Trans Am and they also drive a muscle car. Oh well.... Peter Ness
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