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Re: Converting Rapido’s Rr-56 Mechanical Reefer Into Rr-60 & Rr-61 Classes

John Moore
 

Rapido's offering of the RR-56  RR-60  RR-61 MTC cars as advertised are correct and ready to go.  No additional modification or details are necessary.  The art work has been extensively reviewed and is correct for each class.


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Re: Outrageous Foobie

G.J. Irwin
 

Jim Ogden wrote:

"Speaking of Foobies, was the white Varney (later LifeLike) Frisco Norge boxcar based on advertising artwork to promote the new appliance factory in Fort Smith, Arkansas? I know no revenue cars like this ever existed but heard getting Borg-Warner to locate a plant there was a big victory for Arkansas in 1961.
I do understand they passed out the Varney plastic cars as promotional items as they would coozies and caps and T-shirts today."

Jim, I don't know about the distribution at the appliance factory but I can tell you that my late father, who had trains before he had kids, purchased a Frisco/Norge boxcar, most likely at Woolworth's based on the sticker on the box.  Also in his accumulation were cars for Penney's and Mays Department Store.  "No known prototype..."

George Irwin


Re: BREX 74893 reefer

Jack Mullen
 

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 08:37 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
I distinguish between the two styles by calling one "reverse", and the other "inverse".

I just can't remember which is which. :-D
Which is exactly why I used "indented" (aka "innie") and "reversed" in my previous post.   ;^)

Jack Mullen


Re: Outrageous Foobie

StephenK
 

I just recently tossed the body from my Revell F7.   The motor/chassis died years ago, after a trip to the floor broke the plastic axle on one truck.   I kept it for years, figuring I would graft it onto a new Athearn chassis, then decided to keep it for old times' sake.   Plus I have ONE blue box car, which actually came assembled with sprung trucks.   It is not a bad rendition of a UP "Be Specific" car.   I don't run it, (it still has X2F couplers)  but it was the first decent car I ever had and I will keep it.

Steve Kay


Re: Converting Rapido’s Rr-56 Mechanical Reefer Into Rr-60 & Rr-61 Classes

Kenneth Montero
 

Bob,
 
The Rapido site lists several paint schemes for that model as being Rr-60 and Rr-61class cars. Is there something more that needs to be done to those cars?
 
Ken Montero

On 03/13/2021 1:33 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
 
 

Converting Rapido’s Rr-56 Mechanical Reefer Into Rr-60 & Rr-61 Classes

John B. Moore, Jr., author of the Santa Fe Mechanical Refrigerator Cars book, points out how easy it will be to convert the Rapido HO scale Santa Fe Rr-56 Mechanical Reefer

( https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-atsf-rr-56-mechanical-reefer )

into Santa Fe Rr-60 & Rr-61 Classes.

Basically, the three classes are visually identical from the outside. All that is needed is to match the car number, slogan or emblems to a prototype example, paint and letter them and you can have all three classes of Santa Fe’s mechanical refrigerator cars.

These two additional classes give you another fifty individual cars you can model. Cars in these two additional classes began service in 1958 with most still plying the rails by 1978.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup


Converting Rapido’s Rr-56 Mechanical Reefer Into Rr-60 & Rr-61 Classes

Bob Chaparro
 

Converting Rapido’s Rr-56 Mechanical Reefer Into Rr-60 & Rr-61 Classes

John B. Moore, Jr., author of the Santa Fe Mechanical Refrigerator Cars book, points out how easy it will be to convert the Rapido HO scale Santa Fe Rr-56 Mechanical Reefer

( https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-atsf-rr-56-mechanical-reefer )

into Santa Fe Rr-60 & Rr-61 Classes.

Basically, the three classes are visually identical from the outside. All that is needed is to match the car number, slogan or emblems to a prototype example, paint and letter them and you can have all three classes of Santa Fe’s mechanical refrigerator cars.

These two additional classes give you another fifty individual cars you can model. Cars in these two additional classes began service in 1958 with most still plying the rails by 1978.

Bob Chaparro

Moderator

Railroad Citrus Industry Modeling Group

https://groups.io/g/RailroadCitrusIndustryModelingGroup


Re: BREX 74893 reefer

Philip Dove
 

Perhaps it was just a real life foobie, A careless builder who couldn't be bothered to get a proper end, Those end decals look a bit large.

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On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 at 16:37, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

I distinguish between the two styles by calling one "reverse", and the other "inverse".

I just can't remember which is which. :-D

Tim O'Connor


On 3/12/2021 4:00 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Dennis Storzek wrote:

Decades ago John Nehrich wanted to call them "bifurcated" ends. But they're really just the standard Dreadnaught pattern as normally seen from the inside.

      I disagree, Dennis. Look at the ribs with the "indents." They are the major ribs, not the flat parts between the ribs. On normal Dreadnaughst, the flat parts between the major ribs have the "darts" at the ends. Here the "darts" are in the ribs themselves.
        There certainly are cases of really "reversed" Dreadnaught ends, especially visible on gondolas. But I don't think this is one.

Tony Thompson


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Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Outrageous Foobie

Jim Ogden
 

Speaking of Foobies, was the white Varney (later LifeLike) Frisco Norge boxcar based on advertising artwork to promote the new appliance factory in Fort Smith, Arkansas? I know no revenue cars like this ever existed but heard getting Borg-Warner to locate a plant there was a big victory for Arkansas in 1961.

I do understand they passed out the Varney plastic cars as promotional items as they would coozies and caps and T-shirts today.

Jim Ogden
Argyle , Texas


Re: BREX 74893 reefer

Tim O'Connor
 


I distinguish between the two styles by calling one "reverse", and the other "inverse".

I just can't remember which is which. :-D

Tim O'Connor


On 3/12/2021 4:00 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
Dennis Storzek wrote:

Decades ago John Nehrich wanted to call them "bifurcated" ends. But they're really just the standard Dreadnaught pattern as normally seen from the inside.

      I disagree, Dennis. Look at the ribs with the "indents." They are the major ribs, not the flat parts between the ribs. On normal Dreadnaughst, the flat parts between the major ribs have the "darts" at the ends. Here the "darts" are in the ribs themselves.
        There certainly are cases of really "reversed" Dreadnaught ends, especially visible on gondolas. But I don't think this is one.

Tony Thompson


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Outrageous Foobie

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I’m happy to say that I was building One in 5000 kits when they were in the first series, and I was about ten or twelve.  They turned out well enough that I’m glad to be able to show them today.  I also built several LaBelle freight car kits in the same time span, which undoubtedly steered me toward freight cars, vs. passenger.

 

Schuyler

 


-Jeff Ford
Sanger, Texas

P.S. I recall much enjoyment of railroading with egregiously inaccurate rolling stock as a kid. I'm afraid had I attempted a resin kit at the time it would have wound up like my dime store plastic airplane kits which were more glue than plastic and unpainted to boot - equally egregious. :)


Re: Outrageous Foobie

Chris Barkan
 

Yes, Hobby Line not Penn Line  (I got my "Line"s confused)   As a kid, I remember liking their box art the best! :-)  Thanks Garth!
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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


Re: Outrageous Foobie

O Fenton Wells
 

Amen to that Tom, I still have my Varney red, white and Blue State of Maine boxcar and my June 1957 MR that I bought as well.  Great reminders.
Fenton

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 10:20 PM Tom Madden via groups.io <pullmanboss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Still have my first HO loco, a Mantua Shifter I got in 1952. And the June 1948 issue of MR I bought as an 11 year old at a newsstand in Boston's South Station when my mother took me on a visit to her sister. These things serve both as reminders of and touchstones to the past.

Tom Madden



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Re: Outrageous Foobie

Jeff Ford
 

Is it Schrodinger's car. 

Unprototypical and aprototypical at the same time?

$0.02,
-Jeff Ford
Sanger, Texas

P.S. I recall much enjoyment of railroading with egregiously inaccurate rolling stock as a kid. I'm afraid had I attempted a resin kit at the time it would have wound up like my dime store plastic airplane kits which were more glue than plastic and unpainted to boot - equally egregious. :)


Re: Outrageous Foobie

Tom Madden
 

Still have my first HO loco, a Mantua Shifter I got in 1952. And the June 1948 issue of MR I bought as an 11 year old at a newsstand in Boston's South Station when my mother took me on a visit to her sister. These things serve both as reminders of and touchstones to the past.

Tom Madden


Re: Outrageous Foobie

Bill Parks
 

"If any of these cars lead younger people to replace us when the fates finally claim us, I am all for it."

I couldn't have said it better

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Bill Parks
Cumming, GA
Modelling the Seaboard Airline in Central Florida


Re: Outrageous Foobie

Schuyler Larrabee
 

You are on target, Jim,

 

I STILL have my Mantua 0-4-0 from about 1958, and while I’ve had numerous chances to replace the tender with another that doesn’t have a broken rear step, I can’t bring myself to do that.

 

Schuyler

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of np328
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 7:15 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Outrageous Foobie

 

   I'll take a different take on this.  Or agree more fully with Rich Chapin. 

 Not in any way defending the car however if - this or cars like this with the poor handrails and graphic image not quite like we are used to seeing get kids interested in model railroading or at least give it a second look, great. 

What's that about the mighty oak started as a little nut? 

         All in all it poses no more danger to any here than Thomas the Tank engine, or those Lionel cars with motion of our own youth.  
And I have seen first hand how when Thomas the tank engine used to come to the roundhouse here in St. Paul, kids mobbed it. Many children hugging it. 

     I have tucked away, wrapped in paper, the little cast 0-6-0 tank engine my dad bought my brother and I when we were maybe 6, and then started down this path. I still look at it now and then and it is, in a way, my time machine.       
     
 I think many here have our own little item we look at from time to time. Rather than a sled named Rosebud, it could be a paper sided car, or an old zamac cast car, or even a blue box car.
Those have all lead us here.
      If any of these cars lead younger people to replace us when the fates finally claim us, I am all for it.                     Jim Dick - Roseville, MN 


Re: Outrageous Foobie

np328
 

   I'll take a different take on this.  Or agree more fully with Rich Chapin. 

 Not in any way defending the car however if - this or cars like this with the poor handrails and graphic image not quite like we are used to seeing get kids interested in model railroading or at least give it a second look, great. 

What's that about the mighty oak started as a little nut? 

         All in all it poses no more danger to any here than Thomas the Tank engine, or those Lionel cars with motion of our own youth.  
And I have seen first hand how when Thomas the tank engine used to come to the roundhouse here in St. Paul, kids mobbed it. Many children hugging it. 

     I have tucked away, wrapped in paper, the little cast 0-6-0 tank engine my dad bought my brother and I when we were maybe 6, and then started down this path. I still look at it now and then and it is, in a way, my time machine.       
     
 I think many here have our own little item we look at from time to time. Rather than a sled named Rosebud, it could be a paper sided car, or an old zamac cast car, or even a blue box car.
Those have all lead us here.
      If any of these cars lead younger people to replace us when the fates finally claim us, I am all for it.                     Jim Dick - Roseville, MN 


Re: Outrageous Foobie

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Chris and Friends,

I'm pretty sure the tank and underframe are from the old HObby Line kits from the late 1950s. IIRC, this tooling passed first to Lionel, then to Model Power or somebody. Now it's back with Lionel, though those outrageous handrails are a step down from the original parts. 

I had one of these once, a used piece I picked up at a train show, and I remember certain features like the coupler pockets matched some HObby Line cars I had until I plunged into HOn3 during college. The tank caught my eye because the dome was different from the usual Varney/LifeLike tanks that still clog sale tables. Like nearly all my blue box-quality roster, this one went back to a sale when I purged my roster of this sort of stuff about 30 years ago. Well, most of it. I still have a few blue box cars and similar in case visiting children clamor to run my trains. Not such a great loss if they hit the floor.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆 

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 7:35 AM Chris Barkan <cplbarkan@...> wrote:
It appears to be a Penn Line model lettered for Taiwan Rail Express; however, the "prototype" would have been Cape Gauge (3' 6") not standard...
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Chris Barkan
Champaign, IL


Re: [External] [RealSTMFC] Outrageous Foobie

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

Agreed that it is a “Fantasy” scheme … a form of freelancing. It is not an errant form of anything that actually exist, so NOT a “foobie".

Dan MItchell
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On Mar 12, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Jeff <jeffshultz@gmail.com> wrote:

Potentially laughing all the way to the bank. It's cute, and if I had
kids I'd be thinking about it.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:09 AM naptownprr <jhunter@iupui.edu> wrote:

Yes, fantasy scheme is more accurate. I imagine that the person who thought it up is laughing at his/her own cleverness!


Jim

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WTB: Unstarted Sunshine Muncie and Western tall Mather box car.

Scott
 

Looking to see if somebody has one in thier stash they would part with.  This would be the tall car that is Yellow with the Jar on the door.  If you do please contact me off list.

Thanks
Scott McDonald 

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