Re: Sugar Beets Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)
Steve Wolcott
I made a master for a beet load using short-grain rice. That's for S-scale, probably too big for HO. https://www.pre-size.com/products/SscaleCar_Loads.php The same could be done with anise seed in HO. Make a master and cast the loads with resin. Then get the seed/rice out of the train room. Steve Wolcott
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Re: 1937 AAR boxcars: Dreadnaught corner posts
Schuyler Larrabee
Well, even then, Tony, the majority of the men who noticed the change were the crews in the cars installing the lining.
But weren’t the linings installed at the carbuilder’s shops?
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:27 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] 1937 AAR boxcars: Dreadnaught corner posts
Clark Propst wrote:
Well, any work on the car lining, they sure noticed. The W corner post made the furring for lining boards much more convenient.
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Re: Sugar Beets Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)
I have been using Anise seeds for sugar beet loads. I cut a piece of foam to fit the car, paint it dark brown. Then coat with glue and sprinkle anise seed. A second application of anise covers areas missed the first time.
I have no issues or problems with undesirables. My wife puts out small caps of vinegar which keeps the spiders away. And our four legged pets keep the mice away.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
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Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 1:17 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Sugar Beets Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)
Some modelers have used anise seeds for sugar beets. Anise seeds are used as a spice. Photo: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0053/1247/9325/products/aniseseeds.jpg?v=1587829018 I have no idea if mice prefer these seeds. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: 1937 AAR boxcars: Dreadnaught corner posts
Tony Thompson
Clark Propst wrote:
Well, any work on the car lining, they sure noticed. The W corner post made the furring for lining boards much more convenient. Tony Thompson
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Re: 1937 AAR boxcars: Dreadnaught corner posts
Clark Propst
I’m guessing the RRs never even noticed? Because it didn’t effect the Cu ft, or tonnage, etc. Clark Propst
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Re: Photo: Chicago Great Western Boxcar 92127 (1946)
Tony Thompson
Al Brown wrote: There's a photo of CGW 91014 in RP CYC 35, p 224, and it too has seven-panel doors. Thanks, Al. The sound you just heard was the heel of my hand denting my forehead -- I was just browsing in that RP Cyc this morning but didn't happen onto that photo -- nor did I think to look. Sigh. But thanks again., Tony Thompson
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Re: Photo: El Paso & Southwestern Automobile Boxcar 20302[?] (Undated)
Eric Hansmann
That CB&Q boxcar is wearing some great chalk marks!
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Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:41 PM, Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:
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Re: Photo: Chicago Great Western Boxcar 92127 (1946)
al_brown03
There's a photo of CGW 91014 in RP CYC 35, p 224, and it too has seven-panel doors.
Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Re: Photo: Chicago Great Western Boxcar 92127 (1946)
Tony Thompson
Bob Chaparro via groups.io wrote:
I note the CGW box car has panel doors. Was this also true of the preceding (1944) cars, CGW 91000-91099? Tony Thompson
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Re: Photo: Loading Peanuts (Undated)
Patrick Wade
Interesting to note the wires on the insulators under the platform cover. Have never seen this before. Pat Wade Sant Barbara, CA
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 1:37 PM Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
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Photo: El Paso & Southwestern Automobile Boxcar 20302[?] (Undated)
Photo: El Paso & Southwestern Automobile Boxcar 20302[?] (Undated) A photo from the Denver Public Library: https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/16921/rec/6 Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image. Wreck in Colorado. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: Chicago Great Western Boxcar 92127 (1946)
Photo: Chicago Great Western Boxcar 92127 (1946) A photo from the Denver Public Library: https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/77031/rec/262 Click on the double-headed arrow and then scroll to enlarge the image. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Photo: Loading Peanuts (Undated)
Photo: Loading Peanuts (Undated) A photo from the Norfolk Southern Corporation: Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: 1937 AAR boxcars: Dreadnaught corner posts
Tony Thompson
Dennis Storzek wrote: The ends were a proprietary product (also patented) so when the Standard Railway Equipment Co. changed the way the ends were to attach, everybody else, railroad and carbuilder alike, had to modify their designs. Any blurring of the actual date of change likely traces back to when exactly the contracts were signed, when the ends were ordered, etc. This is really a good example of the railroad engineering departments losing ultimate control of the design process to the vendors, a trend that would only accelerate. This same thing is very evident after the war, when SRECo. changed the designs of both the pressing pattern in the ends and also the roof. The parts were functionally interchangeable, so the change happened literally overnight. Perfectly stated answer to an unobvious question. Thanks, Dennis. Tony Thompson
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Re: Two boxcars
Tony Thompson
Both cars are beautiful results, Rich. Nice use of upgraded details to improve the look, and nice light weathering. I'm impressed.
Tony Thompson
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Re: Sugar Beets Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)
Some modelers have used anise seeds for sugar beets. Anise seeds are used as a spice. Photo: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0053/1247/9325/products/aniseseeds.jpg?v=1587829018 I have no idea if mice prefer these seeds. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Two boxcars
Matt Goodman
Nice job on the wheel color - black with a bit of sheen to suggest oil. Rail color looks good as well.
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Matt Goodman Columbus, Ohio, US
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Re: 1937 AAR boxcars: Dreadnaught corner posts
Dennis Storzek
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 07:21 PM, irv_thomae wrote:
Rapid changes were not exactly common in prewar railroad engineering practice. Does anyone happen to know why this transition, from square corner posts to the 'W' type, happened to quickly? The ends were a proprietary product (also patented) so when the Standard Railway Equipment Co. changed the way the ends were to attach, everybody else, railroad and carbuilder alike, had to modify their designs. Any blurring of the actual date of change likely traces back to when exactly the contracts were signed, when the ends were ordered, etc. This is really a good example of the railroad engineering departments losing ultimate control of the design process to the vendors, a trend that would only accelerate. This same thing is very evident after the war, when SRECo. changed the designs of both the pressing pattern in the ends and also the roof. The parts were functionally interchangeable, so the change happened literally overnight. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Two boxcars
Bill J.
"Guess" they're "ok" if you like superb craftsmanship and excellent colouring and weathering.
Especially the weathering with chalking paint and subtle streaks. reallyREALLY nice work, Rich! Bill Jolitz
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Re: Photo: D&RGW Gondola 70298 (1949)
Todd Sullivan
George,
I don't have a set of the clasp trucks, but I do have a set of trucks for the 40' UCR gondola from the same 3D printer. The trucks are equipped with Tangent wheel sets, and they roll reasonably well, not like a Delrin truck, but well enough. Todd Sullivan
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