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Re: help needed by Sunshine Models

tgmadden <tgmadden@...>
 

Bill Daniels wrote:
Next time you talk to Martin, get him near a computer with
web access and show him Westerfield's site. I think a web
presence for Sunshine would do him (and us) a world of good.

Martin has heard this request many times, and is pretty firm in stating that
that's not how he wants to spend his time.

Perhaps he should take a look at eBay these days. The flood of resin from
the Gronski estate includes many Sunshine kits, most of them still available
from Martin, selling in lots of four for more than list!

Tom M.


Re: New book on NYC cars

Richard Hendrickson
 

Jeff, wasn't that the standard "capacity star" that denoted a car
with a load limit restriction for a reason "other than" axle load
limits? Granted, those were conventionally placed next to the CAPY
stencil...
And when present, the load limit was the same as the nominal capacity,
which isn't the case with the NYC cars in question. I've never seen a
convincing explanation of those stars, which were applied only to new or
nearly new XM box cars in the late 1940s and 1950s, and if Jeff English
doesn't know, I'm willing to wait until he finds out. FWIW, however, my
hunch is that the stars represented either a restriction on the use of the
cars (similar to the Canadian RR's and CB&Q's "For Clean Lading Only"
stenciling) so that they would remain suitable for grain and flour loading
and such, or the application of wrought steel wheels or something of that
sort.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


Re: help needed by Sunshine Models

Bill Welch <bwelch@...>
 

Tim, I am not sure. He was refering to the tabs on the bottom of the side during our discussion. accurate informatio on either I am sure would help.


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On 6/5/01, at 9:02 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

Is it the colors, or the lettering that he needs help with?

At 08:54 AM 6/5/01 -0400, you wrote:
I was talking to Martin Lofton yesterday and he said by surprize, Frank
Hodina was sending him patterns to create an early MDT and Illinois Central
steel reefer. His information is sketchy on these, especially the IC's paint.
I told him I would post a request for help with these on this list.

These are MDT 9000-9999 and IC 50000 to 50294
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Timothy O'Connor <timoconnor@mediaone.net>
Marlborough, Massachusetts


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Re: help needed by Sunshine Models

Bill Welch <bwelch@...>
 

I'll let folks make these kinds of suggestions themselves. He has his own reasons I am sure. Maintaining a web sight does take time. Sometimes it is up to us to stay updated.

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On 6/5/01, at 6:27 AM, billd@gci-net.com wrote:

Bill,

Nest time you talk to Martin, get him near a computer with
web access and show him Westerfield's site. I think a web
presence for Sunshine would do him (and us) a world of good.

Bill Daniels
Tucson, AZ

On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:54:50 -0400
"Bill Welch" <bwelch@uucf.org> wrote:
I was talking to Martin Lofton yesterday...
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Re: help needed by Sunshine Models

billd@...
 

Bill,

Nest time you talk to Martin, get him near a computer with
web access and show him Westerfield's site. I think a web
presence for Sunshine would do him (and us) a world of good.

Bill Daniels
Tucson, AZ

On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 08:54:50 -0400
"Bill Welch" <bwelch@uucf.org> wrote:
I was talking to Martin Lofton yesterday...


Re: Sunshine News & Naperville

byronrose@...
 

On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:22:20 -0400 "Tim O'Connor"
<timoconnor@mediaone.net> writes:
What can I say, Tom? You're the Tiger Woods of resin casting!

If anybody else here has seen your X-23 ladders with .008 rungs in
cast resin,
I'm sure they'll agree with me!
Tim,

Be careful of spreading false rumors. As a party to those X-23 ladders,
I can assure you that they are not .008" nor were they intended to be.
They are .010". Tom and I had discussed using .008" but since it was his
first attempt at a ladder like that and we both agreed that the smaller
size might be a tad too unstable in the hands of someone building the kit
who had more than the normal complement of thumbs. Tom also felt the
extra 2 thou would insure fillability. (Also, at that time but not a
party to this discussion, I had switched to using .010" for grabs in my
own model use. Of course I haven't built anything since then!) In any
case, those ladders are a definate improvement over Als usual step ladder
step rungs or any styrene kits .018" rungs.

Randy Anderson made the patterns after some slight arm twisting about
rung size, since he uses .008" for grabs in his models, smashed, drilled
and riveted.

Byron
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Re: help needed by Sunshine Models

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

Is it the colors, or the lettering that he needs help with?

At 08:54 AM 6/5/01 -0400, you wrote:
I was talking to Martin Lofton yesterday and he said by surprize, Frank
Hodina was sending him patterns to create an early MDT and Illinois Central
steel reefer. His information is sketchy on these, especially the IC's paint.
I told him I would post a request for help with these on this list.

These are MDT 9000-9999 and IC 50000 to 50294
----------


Timothy O'Connor <timoconnor@mediaone.net>
Marlborough, Massachusetts


help needed by Sunshine Models

Bill Welch <bwelch@...>
 

I was talking to Martin Lofton yesterday and he said by surprize, Frank Hodina was sending him patterns to create an early MDT and Illinois Central steel reefer. His information is sketchy on these, especially the IC's paint. I told him I would post a request for help with these on this list.

These are MDT 9000-9999 and IC 50000 to 50294

Martin's address is: Sunshine Models
P.O. Box 4997
Springfield, MO 65808-4997


Bill 'Welch <bwelch@uucf.org>
Associate Minister, Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Fairfax
P.O. Box 130 Oakton VA 22124 www.uucf.org
Telephone 703 281-4230 Fax 703 281-5399


Re: Sunshine News & Naperville

Dave & Libby Nelson <muskoka@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
Just wanted to say that I agree with Mr Nelson's assesment of the 1-pc
body issue 100%. I too have seen many imperfections on 1-pc bodies from 3
different manufacturers.

Actually that was Tim O'Connor's opinion. I'm much more positive on them
(tho I admit my experence is limited to gondolas.

Dave Nelson


Re: Resin

Dave & Libby Nelson <muskoka@...>
 

I was in the Train Shop the other day and Vern pulled me aside and offered
me a great deal on some resin he just got -- $7/kit. All the old brittle
stuff from Elk Grove Village. I told him it wasn't worth $3/kit to me.

Dave Nelson

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Miller [mailto:atsf@inow.com]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:54 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Resin


I think some of the buyers may be surprised a some of the Westerfield
kits. According to the numbers they are the older resin (but depending on
when they were bought they may be old or new resin as Al now casts older
numbers with new resin). I saw some older kits marked new resin
so I guess
Gronski upgraded some kits. I don't think Al does this anymore.
On the F&C kits, is there anyway to tell the newer kits from the older
kits?

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


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Re: early railroads and freightcars

Dave & Libby Nelson <muskoka@...>
 

Al Westerfield's web site would certainly provide plenty of info about early
20th century cars. It's http://users.multipro.com/westerfield/

Get White's _The American Freight Car_ too.

Dave Nelson

-----Original Message-----
From: ThisIsR@aol.com [mailto:ThisIsR@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 4:42 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] early railroads and freightcars


Good evening:
the other day I was surfin' the web and came across a website
dealing with "the golden age of railroading" 1870s?-1906. It got me
thinking about railroads in the early decades of the twentieth
century. I then drifted over to the RPI website and proceeded to
wander over to the Old & Weary Car Shop site. My question is...Where
does a 33 year old who has never even seen a working steam engine in
person begin to find info about railroads and freightcars of the
early twentieth century? Thanks!!!


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early railroads and freightcars

ThisIsR@...
 

Good evening:
the other day I was surfin' the web and came across a website
dealing with "the golden age of railroading" 1870s?-1906. It got me
thinking about railroads in the early decades of the twentieth
century. I then drifted over to the RPI website and proceeded to
wander over to the Old & Weary Car Shop site. My question is...Where
does a 33 year old who has never even seen a working steam engine in
person begin to find info about railroads and freightcars of the
early twentieth century? Thanks!!!


Re: Sunshine News & Naperville

Tom Gloger
 

... for those looking for good (and
reasonably-priced) Mexican fare, there's a place only a couple of
blocks from Des Plaines Hobbies, in a corner-oriented strip mall.
The name might be "Famous Burrito". Tim, do you remember?
Jeff,

Yeah, something like that -- "El Famouso Burrito". Tasty,
inexpensive, heaping gobs of intestinal lubricants.
I second that opinion! It's "El Famous Burrito," and it's about
quarter mile up, on the right, N.E. corner of Lee and Algonquin.
El Famous is a chain in this area. I think there's one in or near
Naperville. Check the phone book for one near you.
(Is my mouth watering, or was that my sprinkler system just went
off? :-)

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Re: Sunshine News & Naperville

tgmadden <tgmadden@...>
 

Tim O', who must want something, writes:
What can I say, Tom? You're the Tiger Woods of resin casting!

If anybody else here has seen your X-23 ladders with .008 rungs in cast
resin,
I'm sure they'll agree with me!
Direct your applause to Randy Anderson, who made that beautiful master. But
I must admit, the technique I came up with to cast those is pretty good,
sufficiently so that my principal client (on whose time I developed it) has
asked me not to disclose it.

Also direct your attention to military modelers. Their use of resin casting
puts our hobby to shame. That's where I got the idea for using Legos to
build mold frames, and that's also where the "stretched sprue" technique
comes from. That's the absolute best way to make perfect plugs for filling
oversize mounting holes in plastic car bodies.

Wouldn't mind being Tiger Woods, though. Not because he's talented, or
young, or rich. But because whenever he wants to play, he gets new balls.

Tom


Re: New book on NYC cars

Jeff English
 

"Tim O'Connor" <timoconnor@mediaone.net> wrote:

Jeff, wasn't that the standard "capacity star" that denoted a car
with a load limit restriction for a reason "other than" axle load
limits? Granted, those were conventionally placed next to the CAPY
stencil...
Gosh, I don't think so. I've always assumed it denoted some equipment feature.

NYC132579, photo in 1951 shows a large, solid white star painted above
the car dimensions -- must be at least a foot across. Havn't seen that
before.
Haven't found out the significance of that star yet, but lots of
NYC cars had it in the 40s.

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Jeff English Troy, New York
Proto:64 Classic Era Railroad Modeling
englij@rpi.edu

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Re: Bowser X31/X32

billd@...
 

Which probably explains why Bowser dosen't make any NYC
cars!

Bill Daniels
Tucson, AZ

On Mon, 4 Jun 2001 15:32:29 -0400
"Jeff English" <englij@rpi.edu> wrote:
"Tim O'Connor" <timoconnor@mediaone.net> wrote:

Since I can't understand why Bowser (of ALL people)
screwed
up the paint job on these
Simple answer: Mr. English simply doesn't care. He
regularly
screws up paint & lettering on many of his models.
Just for the record, there is <no> relation between the
Bowser
Englishes and moi. So don't complain to me.

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Jeff English Troy, New York
Proto:64 Classic Era Railroad Modeling
englij@rpi.edu

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Re: Sunshine News & Naperville

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

Anyone know a good sushi place in Naperville?
No, and no thanks, but for those looking for good (and
reasonably-priced) Mexican fare, there's a place only a couple of
blocks from Des Plaines Hobbies, in a corner-oriented strip mall.
The name might be "Famous Burrito". Tim, do you remember?
Jeff,

Yeah, something like that -- "El Famouso Burrito". Tasty, inexpensive,
heaping gobs of intestinal lubricants.

;o)


Re: Sunshine News & Naperville

Jeff English
 

"Benjamin Hom" <bhom3@home.com> wrote:

Anyone know a good sushi place in Naperville?
No, and no thanks, but for those looking for good (and
reasonably-priced) Mexican fare, there's a place only a couple of
blocks from Des Plaines Hobbies, in a corner-oriented strip mall.
The name might be "Famous Burrito". Tim, do you remember?

---------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff English Troy, New York
Proto:64 Classic Era Railroad Modeling
englij@rpi.edu

| R U T L A N D R A I L R O A D |
Route of the Whippet
---------------------------------------------------------------


Re: Bowser X31/X32

Jeff English
 

"Tim O'Connor" <timoconnor@mediaone.net> wrote:

Since I can't understand why Bowser (of ALL people) screwed
up the paint job on these
Simple answer: Mr. English simply doesn't care. He regularly
screws up paint & lettering on many of his models.
Just for the record, there is <no> relation between the Bowser
Englishes and moi. So don't complain to me.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff English Troy, New York
Proto:64 Classic Era Railroad Modeling
englij@rpi.edu

| R U T L A N D R A I L R O A D |
Route of the Whippet
---------------------------------------------------------------


Re: Sunshine News & Naperville

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

What can I say, Tom? You're the Tiger Woods of resin casting!

If anybody else here has seen your X-23 ladders with .008 rungs in cast resin,
I'm sure they'll agree with me!

Tim fawned:
Personally, I have yet to see a perfect 3-D casting from anyone besides Tom
Madden... who did it mainly to demonstrate that it could be done.
That comes dangerously close to trivializing what I do. :-)

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