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Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Birds eye view of Westinghouse Plant Pittsburgh PA

wahsatch
 

It's actually the East Pittsburgh plant. Home to LRA [large rotating apparatus] 1000 HP motors & generators & a lot bigger. MAC [medium a/c was in Buffalo]. 5000 hp was only about 10 ft in diameter. Also the Transportation Div. The Metros about did them in. The St. Louis Car Jersey Arrows was the last except for a possible NYC subway order. Over 50 yrs ago I got to drive our crusty circle W van out to EPitt to pickup some parts for the Metros. Got to smell about a gallon of mixed transformer & Inerteen oil in the rear of the old Dodge out & back from Philly.
 
-=- Bob Colquitt
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 at 2:39 PM
From: "Bruce Smith" <smithbf@...>
To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Birds eye view of Westinghouse Plant Pittsburgh PA

Claus,

 

Why that is almost certainly the PRR FD2 “Queen Mary” flat car #470245. Give that it was built to haul loads specifically for Westinghouse, she was usually stored on Westinghouse’s property in that general area.

 

Note that two tracks to the left of the flat car is most likely the Westinghouse Baldwin turbine-electric #4000.


Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 

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Subject: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Birds eye view of Westinghouse Plant Pittsburgh PA

 

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Hi List Members,

 

Birds eye view of Westinghouse Plant Pittsburgh PA

 

Plenty of STMFCs to ponder.

 

What is the car at the extreme right side of the image? Some kind of multi-truck heavy duty flat?

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 

 


Re: Ho Scale Klasing horizontal brake machine.

Nelson Moyer
 

Try Resin Car Works parts. They have a 3D printed Klasing hand brake like you need.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 4:08 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Ho Scale Klasing horizontal brake machine.

 

Does anybody know who makes an HO scale Klasing Horizontal brake machine.  This has the Horizontal wheel to turn not the lever/rachet ones.   Need one for a resin car.

Thanks
Scott McDonald 


Ho Scale Klasing horizontal brake machine.

Scott
 

Does anybody know who makes an HO scale Klasing Horizontal brake machine.  This has the Horizontal wheel to turn not the lever/rachet ones.   Need one for a resin car.

Thanks
Scott McDonald 


Re: Journal Oil Modeling - was "Resemble Grease"

Matt Goodman
 

I made a mistake - Tamiya NATO Black is my good-enough wheel face color for the oily look. Especially for (but not limited to) coal hoppers where the overwhelming dust would be coal dust. NATO Black contains a hint of green, which reminds me of grease/oil gunk color (see attached). For variety, I use it alongside (and mixed with German Gray) and some powder/paint concoctions for wheel faces.

German Gray is my black truck color. It’s light enough to allow the beautifully detailed trucks to stand out from the shadows (second and third photos).


Matt 

On May 14, 2021, at 4:03 PM, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

Matt Goodman wrote:

The attached photo has my good-enough oily wheel face - Tamiya German Gray. 

    I have settled on this same color for wheel faces. From my own observations and from photos, the wheel face should NOT be dead black. And remember that the oil spillage was a dust and dirt magnet. Whatever color it is, it ought not to be glossy, IMO. I have worried far less about the inside faces of wheels (Richard Hendrickson had a "dirty rust" color for those areas), because one can rarely see them.

Tony Thompson





Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Birds eye view of Westinghouse Plant Pittsburgh PA

Tom Madden
 

I shared the attached Ralph Hallock 1952 photo from the Colorado Railroad Museum collection with Bruce a couple years ago. I believe it's another view of the area in the lower right of the Westinghouse photo under discussion.

Tom Madden


Re: Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi Eric and List Members,
 
When I zoom in and inspect the area under the weight data, the last line seems to me to read STANDARD. But don't get me wrong, I'm not disputing that this may be an INTERSTATE car.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

There’s also some lens distortion on the left car. The ladder grabs are similar to what I’ve seen on old BC&G cars. The end posts seem right for a GLa design.

 

I think I see remnants of a small size INTERSTATE stencil in the panel below the weigh data. Zoom in tight near the sill on that panel.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 11:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

 

Hi Eric,

 

I will add that Interstate had both PRR GLa copies and also had dimensionally TALLER PRR GLa copies (that were maybe 10 inches taller than a normal PRR GLa car)

 

Claus Schlund

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 11:45 AM

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

 

The two hoppers with external door mechanisms seem to follow N&W designs. I’m uncertain of the car on the left.

 

The Stonega Mine was located on the Interstate Railroad in far western Virginia. The left hopper could have a number of possible owners from the local connections. It could also be an Interstate car.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 10:06 AM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

 

Hi List Members,

 

Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

 

All three hoppers have had their road name and number airbrushed out.

 

The left-most car appears to be a PRR class GLa design. Note that, while it appears there is an air brake line visible on this car, I believe this is NOT an air brake line and is instead the light reflecting off the far rail under the car.

 

The other two cars are N&W hoppers - the N&W letters can still be faintly discerned on the middle car.

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 


Re: Journal Oil Modeling - was "Resemble Grease"

Jim Sabol
 

Boy, am I glad that I asked the original question! You guys amaze me with your knowledge.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Photo: Blocking For Gear Dive Load

Tony Thompson
 

Clarence Zink wrote:

Battle Mountain is located along the UP, so there would be some interchange of the flatcar and load somewhere.

True today, but of course in the period of this list it was the SP.

Tony Thompson




Re: Journal Oil Modeling - was "Resemble Grease"

Tony Thompson
 

Matt Goodman wrote:

The attached photo has my good-enough oily wheel face - Tamiya German Gray. 

    I have settled on this same color for wheel faces. From my own observations and from photos, the wheel face should NOT be dead black. And remember that the oil spillage was a dust and dirt magnet. Whatever color it is, it ought not to be glossy, IMO. I have worried far less about the inside faces of wheels (Richard Hendrickson had a "dirty rust" color for those areas), because one can rarely see them.

Tony Thompson




Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Birds eye view of Westinghouse Plant Pittsburgh PA

Scott
 

Interesting scene.  With some modelers compression that would make an fun switching area.  Looks like an F unit in there to a couple of tracks over from the big flat car.

Scott McDonald 


Re: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Birds eye view of Westinghouse Plant Pittsburgh PA

Bruce Smith
 

Claus,

 

Why that is almost certainly the PRR FD2 “Queen Mary” flat car #470245. Give that it was built to haul loads specifically for Westinghouse, she was usually stored on Westinghouse’s property in that general area.

 

Note that two tracks to the left of the flat car is most likely the Westinghouse Baldwin turbine-electric #4000.


Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 

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Reply-To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, May 14, 2021 at 2:06 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [EXT] [RealSTMFC] Birds eye view of Westinghouse Plant Pittsburgh PA

 

CAUTION: Email Originated Outside of Auburn.

Hi List Members,

 

Birds eye view of Westinghouse Plant Pittsburgh PA

 

Plenty of STMFCs to ponder.

 

What is the car at the extreme right side of the image? Some kind of multi-truck heavy duty flat?

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 


Twin hopper INT 5367 (an extended height PRR GLa design car) in 1931

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Twin hopper INT 5367 (an extended height PRR GLa design car) in 1931
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Birds eye view of Westinghouse Plant Pittsburgh PA

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Birds eye view of Westinghouse Plant Pittsburgh PA
 
Plenty of STMFCs to ponder.
 
What is the car at the extreme right side of the image? Some kind of multi-truck heavy duty flat?
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Tank car with possible GATX reporting marks at Ethylene Plant Midland MI

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Not entirely clear inthis image is pre-1960 or not, but it is close.
 
Tank car with possible GATX reporting marks at Ethylene Plant Midland MI
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Journal Oil Modeling - was "Resemble Grease"

Matt Goodman
 

Jim, like Brian Stokes, I’ve been experimenting with simulating plain-bearing journal (and wheel face) oiliness for a couple years. I had better luck with the latter, until last July when a mistake unrelated to trucks led to a method for journal boxes that I *am* satisfied with, and is reasonably quick. 

  1. Base layer of MIG Engine Grime
  2. Top coat of Tamiya Panel Line Accent (Black, in my case) 

The second supplies the oily gloss, the first provides a lighter under color and just a bit of texture to make the oily sheen stand out.
The base layer might work with another material, but I’ll stick with this combination until I better understand what makes it work, then start some experimentation - especially given that the MIG products were hard to get before COVID slowed things down more from Spain. The next experiment will likely be with MIG engine oil.

@Brian Stokes, I’ll be interested to hear what you find with the Vallejo acrylics. I saw some in stock at a hobby shop last summer, but held off buying any until I had a firm opinion about the MIG enamels.

The attached photo has my good-enough oily wheel face - Tamiya German Gray. I’ve developed methods that I’m happy with aesthetically for wheel faces, but they aren’t fast (and/or are very messy). The second photo shows the products - ignore the oil wash, that’s used for different purposes where a very dry look is needed (spring packs, for instance).

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio, US

On May 6, 2021, at 8:40 PM, Jim Sabol <jimsabol@...> wrote:

would best represent the greasy look under the switch points of a well maintained turnout; or around journal boxes, for that matter? Thanks.



The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,

 

The Spring, 2021 issue (#116) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the NEW PRRT&HS web site. To get there, simply click on www.prrths.org/tkm

 

To download the issue, as well as several past issues, look for the link on the left that says "Download TKM(s) Here".

 

Note that we will discontinue the use of the keystone modeler notification list to notify readers of new issues shortly. Our new web site and membership management system through Club Express, allows us to create a system where you can tailor what emails you get from the PRRT&HS. Even if you are NOT a member, you will be able to register on the site to receive notification emails. More information on that will be forthcoming. However, if you are already a member, and have not yet followed the directions in the email you received last month to activate your account, now would be a great time to do that. After all, we're bringing back member discounts, and the only way you'll get one is if you have an active account!

 

Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS


Re: M&StL boxcar upgrqade

Scott
 

That would make a great Mini kit!

Scott McDonald 


Re: Photo: Blocking For Gear Dive Load

Clarence Zink
 

Because of the words in the caption: "Mill drive", "used by Duval", and the given dimensions of the gear, along with "single helical split ring gear", it is possible that this pair of ring gear halves was bound for the Duval Copper mine in Battle Mountain, Nevada.  This would be the two halves of the gear drive for a 20' ball (grinding) mill in the Duval copper concentrator.

Battle Mountain is located along the UP, so there would be some interchange of the flatcar and load somewhere.

CRZ


Re: Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

Eric Hansmann
 

There’s also some lens distortion on the left car. The ladder grabs are similar to what I’ve seen on old BC&G cars. The end posts seem right for a GLa design.

 

I think I see remnants of a small size INTERSTATE stencil in the panel below the weigh data. Zoom in tight near the sill on that panel.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 11:50 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

 

Hi Eric,

 

I will add that Interstate had both PRR GLa copies and also had dimensionally TALLER PRR GLa copies (that were maybe 10 inches taller than a normal PRR GLa car)

 

Claus Schlund

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 11:45 AM

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

 

The two hoppers with external door mechanisms seem to follow N&W designs. I’m uncertain of the car on the left.

 

The Stonega Mine was located on the Interstate Railroad in far western Virginia. The left hopper could have a number of possible owners from the local connections. It could also be an Interstate car.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2021 10:06 AM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

 

Hi List Members,

 

Block coal ready for shipment from Stonega Mine 1921

 

All three hoppers have had their road name and number airbrushed out.

 

The left-most car appears to be a PRR class GLa design. Note that, while it appears there is an air brake line visible on this car, I believe this is NOT an air brake line and is instead the light reflecting off the far rail under the car.

 

The other two cars are N&W hoppers - the N&W letters can still be faintly discerned on the middle car.

 

 

Enjoy!

 

Claus Schlund

 


Info on UNSX boxcars

Dave Lotz
 

Hello all,

 

Does anyone have information on USNX boxcars built at the Burlington’s Havelock Shops in the early 1940s shown in the attached image?

 

Dave Lotz




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