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Re: F/S: HO freight car kits by P2K, Red Caboose, Stewart, Tichy and Walthers

Schuyler Larrabee
 

I am interested in some of what you sent the other day, I’ve just been straight out and haven’t had the time to respond.  Please send this list.  Thanks.

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hugh Guillaume via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 10:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] F/S: HO freight car kits by P2K, Red Caboose, Stewart, Tichy and Walthers

 

F/S: new old stock HO freight car kits by Proto 2000, Red Caboose, Stewart, Tichy and Walthers, all on one list, to receive the list send an e-mail to me at: mguill1224 at aol dot com  Offered by Hugh T Guillaume, 160 Parkledge Drive, Amherst NY 14226.


F/S: HO freight car kits by P2K, Red Caboose, Stewart, Tichy and Walthers

 

F/S: new old stock HO freight car kits by Proto 2000, Red Caboose, Stewart, Tichy and Walthers, all on one list, to receive the list send an e-mail to me at: mguill1224 at aol dot com  Offered by Hugh T Guillaume, 160 Parkledge Drive, Amherst NY 14226.


Re: GN 1948 Box Cars

Doug Polinder
 

John, looks like Staffan's photo got stripped from his message, but Ron Merrick is correct.  I checked all the photos I had where you could see the end, and only the cars that had been rebuilt after 1966 had the almost full-width horizontal grabs on the end.  It appears that the GN installed these beginning in 1966 the same time they lowered ladders and removed running boards.  Many of these cars were also painted big sky blue, which GN began applying in April 1967.  And here I've been modeling 1966 and have been installing the dratted !@#$%^&* things.

Doug Polinder


Re: Bill Welch

Paul R Greenwald
 

I'm at a loss for words. Met Bill at Cocoa the last three years.
Too many if us, too soon.  There are so many FGEX refers to finish.
Thank you Bill  for sharing your skill and knowledge so freely.

Go in peace.
--
Paul R Greenwald 
PRRT&HS #1802
NMRA #129229


Re: Bill Welch

Gerry Fitzgerald
 

Very sorry to hear about the passing of Rev. Bill. I had the pleasure to know him and work with him in the past on his book project, in addition to meeting with him at various RPM meets over the years. He was a great person, a wonderful friend, a person of faith, and as everyone on this listserve knows, a modeler of uncommon ability. His freight car work will continue to inspire us as will his approach to life and caring for others. I wish his family the best in this trying time. I will miss him.

Gerard

Gerard J. Fitzgerald, Ph.D.
Crozet, Virginia


Re: GN 1948 Box Cars

Steve Haas
 

John,

 

Two points about the IMRC 12 panel 10’ IH cars.

 

  1. None of the GN 12 panel 10’ IH cars had the long horizontal grab iron; see Staffan’s photo, and
  2. The ends included with the kit are incorrect.  The GN 12 panel 10’ IH cars are what Ed Hawkins has defined as an IDE-2 end.  In this design, the underside of the top major rib does not descend like the underside of the rest of the major ribs.

 

To date, no one has provided a commercial model of such an IDE-2 end, even though when compared to the IDE-1 they are almost as numerous as the IDE-1.

 

Two or three summers ago Bill Welch provided a tease here of a clinic he was putting together, either for St. Louis or Lyle.  In the photo accompanying his posting he included a picture of several ends he was preparing as part of his clinic.  One of these was an IDE-2!  I inquired as to how he had fabricated it.  Bill gracefully responded, stating he had fabricated these ends by taking a pair of ends from an Accurail refrigerator cars, then slicing and dicing to create the proper 4/3 ends with the flattened underside of the top rib.

 

I’ve got the fabrication for a set of these underway . . . . . learning how to clean up the original Accurail castings to where they’ll make good masters; I’ve got a ways to go.

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Staffan Ehnbom
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:27 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] GN 1948 Box Cars

 

Forgot the photo!

 

Staffan

 

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:39 PM golden1014 via groups.io <golden1014=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Gents,

Looking for help please with GN box cars.  I have this Intermountain model that is a 10-foot IH, post-1948 (diagonal r/b), 12-panel car.  Ends are 3-4 Improved Dreadnaught.  Series on the model is 18xxx.  I have a few pics from a GN book to guide construction.

On the ends of this model there appear to be hols for a long horizontal grab iron.  Does anyone have a photo of the end of one of these cars so I can get the modle right?

Thanks, and God Bless,
John Golden


Bill Welch

Richard Townsend
 

This is devastating news. I can't ell you how much I will miss him. He was a wonderful man and an inspirational modeler. His examples and his suggestions to me pushed me to improve my modeling.  Over the last few years he and I had talked and written about the FGE book and after he revealed his diagnosis to some of use we talked about getting it finished post mortem. It will be a lasting legacy. 

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Re: GN 1948 Box Cars

Staffan Ehnbom
 

Forgot the photo!

Staffan

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:39 PM golden1014 via groups.io <golden1014=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Gents,

Looking for help please with GN box cars.  I have this Intermountain model that is a 10-foot IH, post-1948 (diagonal r/b), 12-panel car.  Ends are 3-4 Improved Dreadnaught.  Series on the model is 18xxx.  I have a few pics from a GN book to guide construction.

On the ends of this model there appear to be hols for a long horizontal grab iron.  Does anyone have a photo of the end of one of these cars so I can get the modle right?

Thanks, and God Bless,
John Golden


Re: GN 1948 Box Cars

Staffan Ehnbom
 

John,

Here is a photo.

Staffan Ehnbom

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 6:39 PM golden1014 via groups.io <golden1014=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Gents,

Looking for help please with GN box cars.  I have this Intermountain model that is a 10-foot IH, post-1948 (diagonal r/b), 12-panel car.  Ends are 3-4 Improved Dreadnaught.  Series on the model is 18xxx.  I have a few pics from a GN book to guide construction.

On the ends of this model there appear to be hols for a long horizontal grab iron.  Does anyone have a photo of the end of one of these cars so I can get the modle right?

Thanks, and God Bless,
John Golden


Re: San Juan Car Co. they are still operational

Kenneth Montero
 

Jack,
 
Thank you.
 
Ken Montero

On 11/18/2020 5:00 PM Jack Burgess <jack@...> wrote:
 
 

If you go to the old Grandt Line website, you can figure out what you want and then order it from San Juan…

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 10:11 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] San Juan Car Co. they are still operational

 

I don’t know why, but the Grandt Line detail parts are not on that San Juan website, nor is there a link to the detail parts.

 

There is a separate site and address for San Juan Details. Bookmark this and use it to order former Grandt Line parts.

https://sanjuandetails.com/

 

I was able to order direct and received all parts within a reasonable amount of time.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Reed
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:20 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] San Juan Car Co. they are still operational

 

San Juan Car Company is operational and they have added several different lines like Grandt and San Juan Decals. They are about to release a new Tank Car in On3. There website is functional.

 

Image removed by sender.

For over 25 years, model train enthusiasts have relied on San Juan Car Company for the highest-quality On3, On30, and O Scale model trains and accessories.

sanjuancarco.com

 

William 

aka drgwk37

 


Re: San Juan Car Co. they are still operational

Jack Burgess
 

If you go to the old Grandt Line website, you can figure out what you want and then order it from San Juan…

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 10:11 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] San Juan Car Co. they are still operational

 

I don’t know why, but the Grandt Line detail parts are not on that San Juan website, nor is there a link to the detail parts.

 

There is a separate site and address for San Juan Details. Bookmark this and use it to order former Grandt Line parts.

https://sanjuandetails.com/

 

I was able to order direct and received all parts within a reasonable amount of time.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Reed
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:20 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] San Juan Car Co. they are still operational

 

San Juan Car Company is operational and they have added several different lines like Grandt and San Juan Decals. They are about to release a new Tank Car in On3. There website is functional.

 

Image removed by sender.

For over 25 years, model train enthusiasts have relied on San Juan Car Company for the highest-quality On3, On30, and O Scale model trains and accessories.

sanjuancarco.com

 

William 

aka drgwk37


Re: Fw: Rail graphics data decals

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello Everyone,

My pricing below may have caused some confusion. The two sheets are #101 and #108. So a pair of 101's or 108's is $3.00 per pair. Notice each sheet is not repeated, so you need a pair of sheets for any project.

Sorry for not being more clear.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353

On Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 01:35:55 PM CST, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:


Hello Everyone,

Years ago Rail Graphics made a generic data decal set and I have two of the sets in HO. They are the 1920-1940's set and the 1940 to 1960's set. both are shown below. My phone is not that sharp, but the decals are very sharp. The decals are in white. I have used parts of these sets many times to assist in decaling my freight cars.

New members may not realize, Rail Graphics was a pioneer in making quality decals for many of the kits your build, such as Sunshine, and Westerfield and in O scale for my company Rails Unlimited. He also produced quality decals for many private individuals.

A pair of these decals in HO is only $3.00 plus $1.00 for shipping. For bulk orders the shipping cost goes down. These are handy sets to have available to yourself.

For O scalers I can also offer these sets.

Contact me off list.


Rails Unlimited
Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353

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Re: ProtoWest Scale Models

Kenneth Montero
 

Jack,
 
Thank you.
 
Ken Montero
 
 

On 11/18/2020 4:45 PM Jack Burgess <jack@...> wrote:
 
 

I worked with ProtoWest Models a decade or so ago and they come out with a resin kit for some ballast cars I wanted. They are now San Juan Model Co. and own Grandt Line and a couple of other companies.

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 7:18 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ProtoWest Scale Models

 


I think that was a resin vendor who offered a 70 ton AAR flat car model that was far easier to build than
the SUNSHINE kit but then Intermountain introduced a very good plastic RTR model...



On 11/18/2020 1:31 AM, Kenneth Montero wrote:

I am trying to find a website for ProtoWest Scale Models. I though that I had recently seen one, but I may be mistaken.

If they have one, can one of you provide it to me?

THank you in advance.

Ken Montero


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

 


Re: ProtoWest Scale Models

Jack Burgess
 

I worked with ProtoWest Models a decade or so ago and they come out with a resin kit for some ballast cars I wanted. They are now San Juan Model Co. and own Grandt Line and a couple of other companies.

 

Jack Burgess

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 7:18 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ProtoWest Scale Models

 


I think that was a resin vendor who offered a 70 ton AAR flat car model that was far easier to build than
the SUNSHINE kit but then Intermountain introduced a very good plastic RTR model...



On 11/18/2020 1:31 AM, Kenneth Montero wrote:

I am trying to find a website for ProtoWest Scale Models. I though that I had recently seen one, but I may be mistaken.

If they have one, can one of you provide it to me?

THank you in advance.

Ken Montero


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Photo: Borden's Tank/Reefer BFIX 518 (Undated)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
Thanks for the great image Bob!
 
I notice there is a fairly big gap between the platform and the car door... surprised to see that
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 2:35 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Borden's Tank/Reefer BFIX 518 (Undated)

Photo: Borden's Tank/Reefer BFIX 518 (Undated)

Photo courtesy of the Fine Art America website:

https://fineartamerica.com/featured/bordens-milk-refrigerator-car-underwood-archives.html?product=greeting-card

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Bill Welch

Bruce Smith
 

Well said, Michael, well said! 

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL


On Nov 18, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:

Oh, how sad.  I had known of Bill's condition for some time, and had prepared these brief remarks for the “virtual memorial” he had hoped to attend while he was still alive.  I have revised and included them here...

Thoughts on Bill Welch

How can you not love a man who loved Buddy Holly, the rock-and-roller who inspired my sister to name her doll ‘Peggy Sue,’ made this spectacle-wearing teen feel a trifle less nerdy, and penned the achingly beautiful True Love Ways?  Like Holly, Bill was taken from us before his time, and I wish he had lived long enough for me to say these things to his face.  Eulogies are wasted on the deceased.  They are rotten audiences.

I was not surprised to learn that Bill was an ordained minister.  His homilies on acrylic paint and resin kits made me a believer.  So too was his gospel of “Extreme Modeling,” Bill’s dazzling attempts to create, in miniature, each fine, microscopic detail of a prototype.  I recognized that this meticulous harvester of plastic rivets was a man whose obsessive-compulsive disorder made my OCD look almost normal.  And, quite aside from Bill’s content, was his style, his seductive south o’ the Mason-Dixon Line drawl… as smooth and persuasive as slow-sipping a glass of Southern Comfort.

I thank him for his expertise, his inspiration, and his kindness.  His love of the hobby has enriched both my modeling and my life and, as Buddy Holly put it, brought “joys to share with those who really care.”  While I’m not entirely certain there is an afterlife, I’m pretty certain that, if there is, I’d like to go where Bill goes.

Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Rob Manley

Clark Propst
 

 

Good grief! Rob was Mr. Pan Pastels. Great guy and friend.

Clark Propst

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Photos: Bangor & Aroostook Flat Car 71710 With Army Tanks (Undated)

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Don,

I remember seeing a reader-submitted photo in a TRAINS issue from around 1952 that showed one of these tanks being loaded or unloaded from a flat car by a National Guard Unit. 

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 12:18 PM Donald B. Valentine via groups.io <riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
    The photo of the NC&StL flat car with two lee tanks is helpful Bruce. Note that it too has a cable along the side between the inner piece of the stirrup steps on each end. Thus I believe you are correct about both this and the two BAR car photos are
of test loads with the purpose of the cable, as I suggested, being to help note the amo9unt of depression in the decks of the 
cars, perhaps to see how much it might have change between points "A" and "B".

    Were any of the Lee tanks used to equip National Guard units?

My best, Don Valentine


Re: GN 1948 Box Cars

Todd Sullivan
 

Hi John,

These cars in the 18000-18499 and 18500-18999 series are listed in Ed Hawkin's "Postwar AAR 10' IH (1945-1958)" list, available on the STMFC site.  No mention of the running boards there, but IIRC they were Gypsum expanded metal.

Todd Sullivan.


Re: Bill Welch

gtws00
 

It is indeed sad news that left me with a loss for words. I was fortunate to have been in communications with him ever since his illness, We had quite a few wonderful conversations about modeling and tools. He loved his tools and airbrushes as much as his trains. I can say that during his illness he was always very positive and anxious to get back to doing some more work on his FGEX book. He was in the process of moving into a private room with a table for his computer and monitor to continue its progress during his treatment and Physical Therapy when he was taken from us.  He will always be remembered as Friend and Extreme Modeler! May he rest in peace.
George Toman

1861 - 1880 of 181139