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Re: [ResinFreightCarBuilders] Photos of Martin Lofton

Bill Welch
 

Wish I could help.

Bill

---- Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:

In preparation for the 25th "Naperville" RPM meet this fall, I am wondering
if anyone has a photo, or two of Martin Lofton, who started it all, that
they could share as we honor his memory at this meet. Please advise.

Thanks,
Steve Hile



Re: K brake drawings for hopper cars

Eric Hansmann
 

Not all K brake installations were the same. I’ve seen photos with the K brake cylinder pointed out towards the end sill and the opposite, with the cylinder pointing towards the slope sheet. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Aug 3, 2018, at 12:10 PM, James Brewer <jim.brewer.3611@...> wrote:

Ron,

From the N&WHS Archives:


Hope this helps.

Jim Brewer

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:28 AM, ron christensen via Groups.Io <rxensen@...> wrote:
There are pictures of hoppers with K brakes on the web and a couple of drawings that indicate copyright, but I have not found any that can be used for a clinic on brakes.
Any help would be appreciated
Ron Christensen



Photos of Martin Lofton

Steve and Barb Hile
 

In preparation for the 25th "Naperville" RPM meet this fall, I am wondering if anyone has a photo, or two of Martin Lofton, who started it all, that they could share as we honor his memory at this meet.  Please advise.
 
Thanks,
Steve Hile


Re: water standpipes (was Freight Yard Light Poles)

Tim O'Connor
 

so where is it?

Actually, Tim, they are on other designs. That big cover on the spouts of some SP water cranes acts as a vacuum breaker.

Bill Daniels
On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:23 PM, Tim O'Connor <@timboconnor> wrote:


cool, thanks. Obviously not present on some other standpipes.


Those are not bells, Tim, but vacuum breakers to prevent overrunning of the water.

Bill Daniels


Re: K brake drawings for hopper cars

James Brewer
 

Ron,

From the N&WHS Archives:


Hope this helps.

Jim Brewer

On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:28 AM, ron christensen via Groups.Io <rxensen@...> wrote:
There are pictures of hoppers with K brakes on the web and a couple of drawings that indicate copyright, but I have not found any that can be used for a clinic on brakes.
Any help would be appreciated
Ron Christensen



Re: Heinz Pickle and Vinegar Car info

 

Hugh and Mike – In the 1980s Byron Rose and I visited the plant and met with the marketing manager.  We were allowed to copy photos in an early Heinz history book, all the photos in the archives plus wander around the plant exterior to identify where the cars were loaded/unloaded/stored.  Much of that info was published in my history sheet for the 2200 series pickle cars.  All of it was published in the pickle special interest group newsletter.  My files also included the 1941 plans.  Because all of my research went with the sale of the business, I no longer have access to the material.   Perhaps the current owner, Andrew Dahm, can be persuaded to share the info. – Al Westerfield

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Schleigh Mike via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2018 7:42 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Heinz Pickle and Vinegar Car info

 

Hello Hugh and Group!

 

What Hugh describes sounds like part of the hand-out material from the national NMRA meet held in Pittsburgh in the early 1990s.  Several of our Group were involved in this endeavor.  The freight car material was provided with permission of the Heinz Co. and had been in their company files for years.

 

Regards from Grove City, Penna. where summer seems to be gasping----Mike Schleigh

 

On Friday, August 3, 2018, 12:10:42 AM EDT, Hugh Guillaume via Groups.Io <mguill1224@...> wrote:

 

 

I have a set of info that was produced by Heinz in 1941.  It includes 1/4" scale drawings of the pickle and vinegar cars along with paint chips of the yellow and blue paint used on the cars.  Drawings include dimensions and lettering diagrams.  The info was intended for use by model railroaders.  I don't remember when or where I acquired it.  I would like it to go to someone who will make the information available to everyone who is interested in Heinz freight cars.  It should not be in a file drawer which is where I found it tonight.  I had forgotten that I had it.  I think the paint chips alone make the info packet valuable.  I am open to suggestions.  Respectfully submitted by Hugh T Guillaume

 


Re: Freight Yard Light Poles

Jon Miller
 

On 8/3/2018 7:52 AM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
Then I realized you are using LEDs.

    I have been using 402 LEDs purchased prewired* for passenger car lights.  I think they would work for those who don't want to do the soldering.  Of course they are a little more expensive.

*  eBay item number: 192364968502 (Just one of multiple listings)

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Marklin UP B-50-24 (27) box cars

Andy Carlson
 



Hello-
Offered for purchase.......

UP B-50-24 or 27 cars. Prewar youngstown doors.
 

Marklin Union Pacific 10-pack ACR 40' box cars

 
Hello-
I have a 10 pack set (10 cars in total) of Marklin USA Union Pacific 1937 AAR 40' box cars. With the unique vertical rivet pattern in the middle of each panel. Tony Thompson calls this the "ACR" rivet style, which stands for "Alternating center rivets"
. These cars have 10 unique numbers with various slogans.

List for the 10:6 cars with "Be Specific/Ship Union Pacific" ;3 with large UNION PACFIC on the left car side, UP reporting marks2 with small union pacific on the left car side, U.P. reporting marks1 with small union pacific with 3 painted straight lines. ORW&N reporting marks2 cars with "Road of the Streamliners" ;1 with small union pacific with 3 painted straight lines. U.P. reporting marks1 with small union pacific wit 3 painted straight lines. O.W.R.&N. reporting marks2 cars with "Serves All The West";1 small union pacific with 3 painted straight lines. U.P. reporting marks, with periods1 small union pacific with 3 lines. O.W.R.&N. with periods
Reweigh dates from 7-1949 to 1957. These cars have magnetic knuckle Kadee clone couplers which are truck mounted. Trucks have what appears to be RP25 metal wheels. This is the run with the "bowtie" roof panels. An ambitious modeler could liberate the roof and install Red Caboose roofs. An even more ambitious project would be to remove the sides after paint removal and swap sides with an RC '37 AAR kit and add a pair of South West Scale "Overnight" doors.

Mint new condition. The Marklin container box shows light shelf wear.
The whole 10 pack--Offered for $135.00, shipping by USPS priority mail included. For an additional $15 I will include 10 of the Red Caboose '37 AAR Murphy roofs to replace the wrong PS-1 roofs of the Marklin cars. I accept checks and money orders. for a small fee I also accept PayPal. Contact me off list (Please) for details.<midcentury@...> midcentury at sbcglobal dot net
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA





K brake drawings for hopper cars

ron christensen
 

There are pictures of hoppers with K brakes on the web and a couple of drawings that indicate copyright, but I have not found any that can be used for a clinic on brakes.
Any help would be appreciated
Ron Christensen


Re: Freight Yard Light Poles

Dennis Storzek
 

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 06:48 PM, James SANDIFER wrote:
These are very easy to make using Grandt Line 5062 light shades, Ngineering tubing, and 603 LEDs.
That statement gave me pause for a moment... I'm of an age where we had to use the Campbell pressed brass shades, because the micro bulbs ran too hot to mount in plastic. Then I realized you are using LEDs.

Which brings up another point. Now that we have all sorts of different color temperature LEDs available, keep in mind that all the lights with "pie plate" reflectors we see in old photos used incandescent light bulbs, so be sure to use an LED that gives the proper yellowish light. Mercury vapor lamps were available, but required a ballast transformer, which led to the ubiquitous teardrop shape of outdoor MV lighting fixtures. These pie plate fixtures have no boom for the ballast, therefore are incandescent.

Dennis Storzek


Re: Heinz Pickle and Vinegar Car info

Schleigh Mike
 

Hello Hugh and Group!

What Hugh describes sounds like part of the hand-out material from the national NMRA meet held in Pittsburgh in the early 1990s.  Several of our Group were involved in this endeavor.  The freight car material was provided with permission of the Heinz Co. and had been in their company files for years.

Regards from Grove City, Penna. where summer seems to be gasping----Mike Schleigh

On Friday, August 3, 2018, 12:10:42 AM EDT, Hugh Guillaume via Groups.Io <mguill1224@...> wrote:


I have a set of info that was produced by Heinz in 1941.  It includes 1/4" scale drawings of the pickle and vinegar cars along with paint chips of the yellow and blue paint used on the cars.  Drawings include dimensions and lettering diagrams.  The info was intended for use by model railroaders.  I don't remember when or where I acquired it.  I would like it to go to someone who will make the information available to everyone who is interested in Heinz freight cars.  It should not be in a file drawer which is where I found it tonight.  I had forgotten that I had it.  I think the paint chips alone make the info packet valuable.  I am open to suggestions.  Respectfully submitted by Hugh T Guillaume


Re: Heinz Pickle and Vinegar Car info

James SANDIFER
 

Send to an archive like the one in Temple that will care for it and share it.


On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:10 PM, Hugh Guillaume via Groups.Io
<mguill1224@...> wrote:
I have a set of info that was produced by Heinz in 1941.  It includes 1/4" scale drawings of the pickle and vinegar cars along with paint chips of the yellow and blue paint used on the cars.  Drawings include dimensions and lettering diagrams.  The info was intended for use by model railroaders.  I don't remember when or where I acquired it.  I would like it to go to someone who will make the information available to everyone who is interested in Heinz freight cars.  It should not be in a file drawer which is where I found it tonight.  I had forgotten that I had it.  I think the paint chips alone make the info packet valuable.  I am open to suggestions.  Respectfully submitted by Hugh T Guillaume


Intermountain 40899

Tim Meyer
 

I am looking for at least 2 Intermountain 40899 modified 1937 boxcar kits. I plan on using them to make CNW riveted side PS 1 boxcars. I have the PS 1 parts.

Thanks 
Tim Meyer 
floridatenwheeler at verizon dot net


Heinz info

Norm Buckhart
 

Hello Hugh

I would be very interested in this packet of information. So far I have produced over 600 decal sets in O gauge and about 50 in HO. This would make an interesting addition to my decal line. Please contact me directly if this interests you

here is my line: https://www.protocraft.com

norm buckhart
protocraft decals

norm@...


PTC or STC? was: Steve Hile's new book on UTLX

David
 

"Why do you think the Ohio Cities Gas Co.car was built by Pennsylvania Tank Car?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV"

Standard Car Construction Co. (STC's predecessor) started in 1915 and didn't build cars in quantity until 1916, while high-walkway cars with the stereotypical "STC" underframe appear in the ORER entries for Pennsylvania Tank Line (PTC's leasing arm) as early as 1912.

David Thompson


Re: Unknown Covered Hopper Photo

Benjamin Hom
 



Bruce Griffin asked:
"I say unknown covered hopper meaning unknown to me.  Can anyone help identify the second car in the photo? It appears to be a covered hopper possibly made from a hopper with roof and hatches added."

Not much to go on in this photo, but looks like a Reading rebuilt open hopper, possibly Class LOc, LOd or LOe.
LOc photo:
See also page 52 of the Morning Sun RDG Color Guide.

John W. Hall data sheets from the The Reading Modeler site: 


Ben Hom


Re: Heinz Pickle and Vinegar Car info

Frank Pearsall
 

Good morning all:

These two quarter-inch scale drawing sets (less the paint chips) have been available from the Underground Railway Press since 1990. Here’s how they show up in the catalog:

HJH-001, H. J. Heinze Pickle Tankcar
HJH-002, H. J. Heinze Vinegar Tankcar

If you’re interested, contact me off list and I’ll provide ordering instructions.

Frank A. Pearsall
Brevard, N.C.

On Aug 3, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Hugh Guillaume via Groups.Io <mguill1224@...> wrote:

I have a set of info that was produced by Heinz in 1941.  It includes 1/4" scale drawings of the pickle and vinegar cars along with paint chips of the yellow and blue paint used on the cars.  Drawings include dimensions and lettering diagrams.  The info was intended for use by model railroaders.  I don't remember when or where I acquired it.  I would like it to go to someone who will make the information available to everyone who is interested in Heinz freight cars.  It should not be in a file drawer which is where I found it tonight.  I had forgotten that I had it.  I think the paint chips alone make the info packet valuable.  I am open to suggestions.  Respectfully submitted by Hugh T Guillaume.
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Re: water standpipes (was Freight Yard Light Poles)

np328
 

Bill, 
   thanks for clarifying the "bell shaped object". I had always known the valve work was up in that area and thought this part of the valve work. Which I guess it is (part of) however your sharing makes it more precise.

    As these are NP photos, I know the NP used two mfgrs of water column standpipes, Poage and Sheffield (and the latter was associated with Fairbank-Morse). I believe that the Tichy model is of Sheffield design.
IIRC correctly Overland Models imported the Poage style in years prior.

    I believe that the water columns in the photos are of the Poage design. These came (as did the Sheffield), in different variations.

    Googling up “railroad water column” and “railroad water standpipe” brings up many images and photos. A wealth of info which could help on your modeled railroad.   Jim Dick -Roseville, MN 


Re: water standpipes (was Freight Yard Light Poles)

Bill Daniels <billinsf@...>
 

Actually, Tim, they are on other designs. That big cover on the spouts of some SP water cranes acts as a vacuum breaker.

Bill Daniels

On Aug 2, 2018, at 9:23 PM, Tim O'Connor <@timboconnor> wrote:


cool, thanks. Obviously not present on some other standpipes.


Those are not bells, Tim, but vacuum breakers to prevent overrunning of the water.

Bill Daniels



Re: water standpipes (was Freight Yard Light Poles)

Tim O'Connor
 

cool, thanks. Obviously not present on some other standpipes.

Those are not bells, Tim, but vacuum breakers to prevent overrunning of the water.

Bill Daniels