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Re: SUNSHINE TANK CARS

WILLIAM PARDIE
 




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From: WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...>
Date: 7/2/20 9:56 AM (GMT-10:00)
To: "main@realstmfc.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] SUNSHINE TANK CARS




Once completed the sensible cars are Pretty Dam Good.  My cars but not my work.

Enjoy:

Bill Pardie
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Re: Photo: Export Tractor Load

Kenneth Montero
 

Doug,

Thank you. I will do so.

Ken Montero

On 07/05/2020 4:10 PM Douglas Harding <iowacentralrr@...> wrote:


Ken if you check the group files for the following file you will find the 1949 AAR loading diagrams. Tractor Loading on Flatcars AAR 1949.pdf  

The diagram shows the tractors are properly secured.


Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenneth Montero
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 1:54 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Export Tractor Load


Am I missing something? I am used to seeing a profusion of tie-downs, either chains or ropes. Is there just a tie-down from the left side of the tractor's rear to the flat car and a strap through the right front tire?

 

Lots of blocking front, back and behind the drive wheels, and blocking on all 4 sides of the steering wheels - does that compensate for just a few tie-downs?

 

I am asking because of my lack of knowledge and experience with securing such a load and am in the process of adding such a load to a flat car.


Ken Montero

 

 

On 07/05/2020 2:39 PM Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:



Bob Chaparro wrote:



Photo: Export Tractor Load

An undated photo from the Hennepin County Library:

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Tractors from Minneapolis-Moline Power Implement Company.


    The crate would certainly simplify modeling tractors!


Tony Thompson





Milwaukee Road Boxcar 713481 and HORMEL reefer

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Bob and List Members,
 
Thank you Bob for the very excellent set of images.
 
I could not help but notice there are more images of this 1934 wreck - one of them is in the link below.
 
 
I do notice there is a reefer on its side in the foreground, it appears to have HORMEL billboard lettering across its side. At first the reporting marks seem to me to read OAH&CO or QAH&CO. All HORMAL reefers I previously had images for had NADX reporting marks. When I looked up HORMEL in Wikipedia, I discovered that the founder's name was George A. Hormel. So maybe the reporting marks read GAH&CO instead. This is all new information to me.
 
Claus Schlund
 

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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Milwaukee Road Boxcar 713481

Photos: Milwaukee Road Boxcar 713481

Two 1934 photos from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/49238/rec/184

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/49368/rec/187

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Photo: Export Tractor Load

Douglas Harding
 

Ken if you check the group files for the following file you will find the 1949 AAR loading diagrams. Tractor Loading on Flatcars AAR 1949.pdf  

The diagram shows the tractors are properly secured.

 

Doug Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenneth Montero
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 1:54 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Export Tractor Load

 

Am I missing something? I am used to seeing a profusion of tie-downs, either chains or ropes. Is there just a tie-down from the left side of the tractor's rear to the flat car and a strap through the right front tire?

 

Lots of blocking front, back and behind the drive wheels, and blocking on all 4 sides of the steering wheels - does that compensate for just a few tie-downs?

 

I am asking because of my lack of knowledge and experience with securing such a load and am in the process of adding such a load to a flat car.


Ken Montero

 

 

On 07/05/2020 2:39 PM Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:

 

 

Bob Chaparro wrote:



Photo: Export Tractor Load

An undated photo from the Hennepin County Library:

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Tractors from Minneapolis-Moline Power Implement Company.

 

    The crate would certainly simplify modeling tractors!

 

Tony Thompson

 

 

 

Re: Photo: Export Tractor Load

james murrie
 

Interesting.  Going to Austria under auspices of United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration.  That dates it as roughly end of WWII and end of 1946.  Dates n the flat show 1945,

Jim Murrie

Re: Photo: Export Tractor Load

Kenneth Montero
 

Am I missing something? I am used to seeing a profusion of tie-downs, either chains or ropes. Is there just a tie-down from the left side of the tractor's rear to the flat car and a strap through the right front tire?

Lots of blocking front, back and behind the drive wheels, and blocking on all 4 sides of the steering wheels - does that compensate for just a few tie-downs?

I am asking because of my lack of knowledge and experience with securing such a load and am in the process of adding such a load to a flat car.

Ken Montero


On 07/05/2020 2:39 PM Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photo: Export Tractor Load
An undated photo from the Hennepin County Library:
Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.
Tractors from Minneapolis-Moline Power Implement Company.

    The crate would certainly simplify modeling tractors!

Tony Thompson



Re: Photo: Export Tractor Load

Tony Thompson
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:

Photo: Export Tractor Load
An undated photo from the Hennepin County Library:
Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.
Tractors from Minneapolis-Moline Power Implement Company.

    The crate would certainly simplify modeling tractors!

Tony Thompson



Hindsight 2020 RPM Appreciation

pennsylvania1954
 

Many, many thanks to the folks who put on this Virtual RPM and especially to those who uploaded their clinic materials over on
https://groups.io/g/Hindsight2020

--
Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL

Re: Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

 

This car looks to be a DD car, see door tracks.

My surmise would be that it is a chain tube.

Dan Smith

Re: Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

Bruce Smith
 

I'll buy that!
Bruce


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track
 
I will guess it’s a tube for chains used for auto carrying. Note the door track extending left from the car center. 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jul 5, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

Folks,

What is the piece of hardware, just inside the wheel, that appears to be strapped to the center sill?

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track
 

Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

A 1938 photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/27759/rec/399

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Excellent detail on unidentified boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

Eric Hansmann
 

I will guess it’s a tube for chains used for auto carrying. Note the door track extending left from the car center. 

Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Jul 5, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

Folks,

What is the piece of hardware, just inside the wheel, that appears to be strapped to the center sill?

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track
 

Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

A 1938 photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/27759/rec/399

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Excellent detail on unidentified boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,

What is the piece of hardware, just inside the wheel, that appears to be strapped to the center sill?

Regards,
Bruce 
Bruce Smith


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via groups.io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track
 

Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

A 1938 photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/27759/rec/399

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Excellent detail on unidentified boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photo: Export Tractor Load On Rock Island Flatcar

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Export Tractor Load On Rock Island Flatcar

An undated photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/10033/rec/23

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Tractors from Minneapolis-Moline Power Implement Company.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photo: Export Tractor Load

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Export Tractor Load

An undated photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/10358/rec/27

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Tractors from Minneapolis-Moline Power Implement Company.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Boxcar Lower Door Track

A 1938 photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/27759/rec/399

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Excellent detail on unidentified boxcar.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photos: Milwaukee Road Boxcar 713481

Bob Chaparro
 

Photos: Milwaukee Road Boxcar 713481

Two 1934 photos from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/49238/rec/184

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/49368/rec/187

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge each photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Photo: Boxcars At Flour Mill

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Boxcars At Flour Mill

A 1905 photo from the Hennepin County Library:

https://digitalcollections.hclib.org/digital/collection/MplsPhotos/id/51159/rec/95

Use the arrow in the upper right hand corner to enlarge the photo, then scroll on it to enlarge it more.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

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Re: Photos: PFE 36624 (R-40-2)p

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Re: Photos: PFE 36624 (R-40-2)

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-------- Original message --------
From: Bill Welch <fgexbill@...>
Date: 6/28/20 7:29 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: PFE 36624 (R-40-2)

Who owns the tooling for the ex-Red Caboose PRR style trucks?

Bill Welch