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Re: SP 75320 new 1924

Bob Chaparro
 

Class S-40-4.
Notice "Central Pacific" between SP and car number.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
FW: [RealSTMFC] Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

David
 

Atlas Powder tank car built 9-15 (with a raised walkway) and an AC&&Y hopper car built 10-19

APCX 1058 is one of those high-walkway cars (probably) built by Pennsylvania Tank Car with the underframe later used by Standard Tank Car.

AC&Y 7042 is probably ex-Clinchfield.

David Thompson
Re: Whose hopper cars were these?

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi List Members,
 
Thanks to everyone for the great information. I had seen cars of this unique construction type in images before, but I could never make out the reporting marks.
 
See image below for one such example taken on the DL&W - in the string of hoppers third car from the left
 
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 6:41 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Whose hopper cars were these?

B&LE is the likely candidate, though Carnegie Steel also had cars of
this design.
Ralston builder's photo:
http://columbusrailroads.com/Ralston%20photos/ralston-142-1914-B&LE.JPG

David Thompson
100-ton Andrews trucks in HO

David
 

The PA&McKR 90-ton Andrews trucks were used under PSCX 1091, a sample battleship gondola built by Pressed Steel Car in 1921 that shows up in the '20s CBCs. This car was leased to Virginian for most of the 1920s. Pittsburgh Allegheny & McKees Rocks ended up with a number of PSC sample cars over the years.

David Thompson
Re: RDG 12343 -- not hwat I expected

Brian Termunde
 

We don't need no stinkin' doors! <G>

Brian Termunde
Midvale, UT
RDG 12343 / Reading 12870

Ray Hutchison
 

So Reading has a variety of cocao cars... 22870 has different roof hatches and different hopper doors than 12343.  12343 does appear to be repurposed drop-bottom box car, with the regular hopper doors 22870 appears to be built for dedicated service.  When I first saw the car I was wondering how they would be cleaned (maybe just steam cleaning through the hatches?)  Cocao husks are sold by our local botanical garden as mulch; would they have been used for same or different purpose pre-WWII period?
Re: WAB 7000-7299 Series - Lead on photos?

Tim O'Connor
 

On 1/23/2021 9:01 AM, Gary Roe wrote:
Dean,

Michael Gruber; Mainline Photos; P.O. Box 411; Portage, Wisconsin 53901-0411
Has a real nice straight on side shot of the 7080.

gary roe
quincy, illinois



On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 12:40:50 AM CST, Dean ONeill <doneill64@...> wrote:


Sorry for the very random request - anyone have a lead on photos of the WAB 7000-7299 Series?

Thanks!
Dean ONeill
Redmond WA


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts
Re: 100-ton Andrews trucks in HO

Jeff Ford
 

Autocomplete strikes again: Delrin

-JDF
Re: WAB 7000-7299 Series - Lead on photos?

Gary Roe
 

Dean,

Michael Gruber; Mainline Photos; P.O. Box 411; Portage, Wisconsin 53901-0411
Has a real nice straight on side shot of the 7080.

gary roe
quincy, illinois



On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 12:40:50 AM CST, Dean ONeill <doneill64@...> wrote:


Sorry for the very random request - anyone have a lead on photos of the WAB 7000-7299 Series?

Thanks!
Dean ONeill
Redmond WA

Re: WAB 7000-7299 Series - Lead on photos?

O Fenton Wells
 

I must learn to read, Menke has one, 7743, my bad
fenton

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 8:27 AM O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
You might try Bob's photos (606-845-3323) and Arnold Menke <waspman@...>has two 8238 and 8258
Fenton

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 1:40 AM Dean ONeill <doneill64@...> wrote:
Sorry for the very random request - anyone have a lead on photos of the WAB 7000-7299 Series?

Thanks!
Dean ONeill
Redmond WA



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...
Re: WAB 7000-7299 Series - Lead on photos?

O Fenton Wells
 

You might try Bob's photos (606-845-3323) and Arnold Menke <waspman@...>has two 8238 and 8258
Fenton

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 1:40 AM Dean ONeill <doneill64@...> wrote:
Sorry for the very random request - anyone have a lead on photos of the WAB 7000-7299 Series?

Thanks!
Dean ONeill
Redmond WA



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...
Re: WAB 7000-7299 Series - Lead on photos?

al_brown03
 

There's a photo of WAB 7146 in the "WAB/NKP/DT&I Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment", p 22.

Hth,

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
WAB 7000-7299 Series - Lead on photos?

Dean ONeill
 

Sorry for the very random request - anyone have a lead on photos of the WAB 7000-7299 Series?

Thanks!
Dean ONeill
Redmond WA
Re: Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

Jim Gates
 


They were not there yesterday, they are now.

Jim Gates

On Friday, January 22, 2021, 05:39:33 PM CST, Dave Parker via groups.io <spottab@...> wrote:


You mean the ACL and AT&SF don't count?

There is a treasure trove of photos in there of the "A" roads.  Not hard to find.
--
Dave Parker
Swall Meadows, CA

Re: Whose hopper cars were these?

Keith Retterer
 

Yes, B&LE hoppers.  This is the SSCC builder's photo of 1914.
Re: 100-ton Andrews trucks in HO

Jeff Ford
 

Dave and Richard,

The familiar US Navy Helium tank cars rode on 100-ton trucks.  The earliest versions were Andrews.  There's a decent photo in the FSA/OWI collection at loc.gov. 

https://www.loc.gov/resource/fsa.8d26369/

I'd like to cook up a set in 3D to accurately model the helium cars.  In a pinch though, others have adapted the old MDC heavy duty truck with outside hung brake beams by sawing off the roller bearings and transplanting plain bearing journal boxes.  Apparently the trickiest part is gluing the slippery deleon plastic.

As info,
-Jeff Ford
Sanger, TX
Re: FW: [RealSTMFC] Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

Schuyler Larrabee
 

In the ERIE sequence there are quite a few cars that were built in the early times (20s or so) and in the 30s and 40s, even into the 50s.  The collection covers a long range.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kenneth Montero
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 8:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: FW: [RealSTMFC] Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

 

Fro those who worry that all of this is beyond the group's 12-31-59 cut-off date, I did a quick perusal of the "A" section, and found an Atlas Powder tank car built 9-15 (with a raised walkway) and an AC&&Y hopper car built 10-19, plus a smattering of cars built in the 1950's.

 

Seek and ye shall find.

 

Ken Montero

On 01/22/2021 6:56 PM Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:

 

 

Friends,

 

I had some trouble finding this collection, but once I had one page I was able to work out the catalog page:  https://pullman-lib.smugmug.com . Someone commented that there was no "A" list, but that's because the URL gives this as "As"

 

Yours Aye,

 

 

Garth Groff  🦆

 

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 6:24 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee= verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Clark, click on the link originally provided by Steve Hile in this email.

 

Then click on “Freight Car Photo Gallery” in the bracket of “Scanned Drawings & Images”

 

Enjoy!

 

Schuyler, (who had to puzzle out the next step from the Index page, too.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:59 AM
To: MFCL@groups.io; RockIslandLines@...; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Cc: Bob Webber <rgz17@...>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

 

Back in the days of the Yahoo groups, Jim Kinkaid posted a large number of builder's photos, mostly Pullman Standard, to the files area of the Modern Freight Car list.  It was not possible to migrate those photos to the groups.io platform that our groups have now migrated to.

 

However, through the efforts of MFCL list owner, Jim Eager and Jim Kinkaid, himself, we are now able to make those photos available again on a Smug Mug site that can be accessed from the Pullman Library website at

 

 

Thanks to Bob Webber, the curator of the Pullman Library, for making this possible.

 

And a special thanks to Jim Kinkaid for adding more photos to the file so that the time period extends back to include car built before the time period of the MFCL.  So, there is a lot of items of interest to freight car fans, including a nice selection of Rock Island cars for folks on that list.

 

Please take a look and enjoy.

 

Steve Hile

 

 

 
Re: FW: [RealSTMFC] Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

Kenneth Montero
 

Fro those who worry that all of this is beyond the group's 12-31-59 cut-off date, I did a quick perusal of the "A" section, and found an Atlas Powder tank car built 9-15 (with a raised walkway) and an AC&&Y hopper car built 10-19, plus a smattering of cars built in the 1950's.
 
Seek and ye shall find.
 
Ken Montero

On 01/22/2021 6:56 PM Garth Groff and Sally Sanford <mallardlodge1000@...> wrote:
 
 
Friends,
 
I had some trouble finding this collection, but once I had one page I was able to work out the catalog page:  https://pullman-lib.smugmug.com . Someone commented that there was no "A" list, but that's because the URL gives this as "As"
 
Yours Aye,
 
 
Garth Groff  🦆

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 6:24 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee= verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Clark, click on the link originally provided by Steve Hile in this email.

 

Then click on “Freight Car Photo Gallery” in the bracket of “Scanned Drawings & Images”

 

Enjoy!

 

Schuyler, (who had to puzzle out the next step from the Index page, too.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:59 AM
To: MFCL@groups.io; RockIslandLines@...; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Cc: Bob Webber <rgz17@...>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

 

Back in the days of the Yahoo groups, Jim Kinkaid posted a large number of builder's photos, mostly Pullman Standard, to the files area of the Modern Freight Car list.  It was not possible to migrate those photos to the groups.io platform that our groups have now migrated to.

 

However, through the efforts of MFCL list owner, Jim Eager and Jim Kinkaid, himself, we are now able to make those photos available again on a Smug Mug site that can be accessed from the Pullman Library website at

 

 

Thanks to Bob Webber, the curator of the Pullman Library, for making this possible.

 

And a special thanks to Jim Kinkaid for adding more photos to the file so that the time period extends back to include car built before the time period of the MFCL.  So, there is a lot of items of interest to freight car fans, including a nice selection of Rock Island cars for folks on that list.

 

Please take a look and enjoy.

 

Steve Hile

 

 

 
Re: RDG 12343 -- not what I expected

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Well, this IS a double sheathed car, and I would surmise that if you removed the exterior sheathing, you’d see the bolts holding the framing for the slope sheets there in the interior sheathing . . .

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Townsend via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 5:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RDG 12343 -- not hwat I expected

 

I wonder if they had internal slope sheets. There's no exterior sign of them but it seems they would be necessary in order to clear the car. Maybe the roof hatches, or at least a roof hatch, was big enough for a person to get in to clear the car interior . . . but no external sign of that, either, that I can see.

Richard Townsend

Lincoln City, OR

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Doggett via groups.io <paul.doggett2472@...>
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jan 22, 2021 1:15 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RDG 12343 -- not hwat I expected

Dave 

 

Roof hatch’s and hopper doors 

Paul Doggett.     England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 



On 22 Jan 2021, at 21:10, Dave Nelson <Lake_Muskoka@...> wrote:



Like the old Arby’s commercial -- Me: “Where’s the Door?”… : “Where’s the Door?”

 

 

Oh….

 

 

 

Dave Nelson
Re: FW: [RealSTMFC] Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

Garth Groff and Sally Sanford
 

Friends,

I had some trouble finding this collection, but once I had one page I was able to work out the catalog page: https://pullman-lib.smugmug.com . Someone commented that there was no "A" list, but that's because the URL gives this as "As"

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🦆


On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 6:24 PM Schuyler Larrabee via groups.io <schuyler.larrabee=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Clark, click on the link originally provided by Steve Hile in this email.

 

Then click on “Freight Car Photo Gallery” in the bracket of “Scanned Drawings & Images”

 

Enjoy!

 

Schuyler, (who had to puzzle out the next step from the Index page, too.

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve and Barb Hile
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:59 AM
To: MFCL@groups.io; RockIslandLines@...; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Cc: Bob Webber <rgz17@...>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Jim Kinkaid's Freight Car Photos Collection

 

Back in the days of the Yahoo groups, Jim Kinkaid posted a large number of builder's photos, mostly Pullman Standard, to the files area of the Modern Freight Car list.  It was not possible to migrate those photos to the groups.io platform that our groups have now migrated to.

 

However, through the efforts of MFCL list owner, Jim Eager and Jim Kinkaid, himself, we are now able to make those photos available again on a Smug Mug site that can be accessed from the Pullman Library website at

 

 

Thanks to Bob Webber, the curator of the Pullman Library, for making this possible.

 

And a special thanks to Jim Kinkaid for adding more photos to the file so that the time period extends back to include car built before the time period of the MFCL.  So, there is a lot of items of interest to freight car fans, including a nice selection of Rock Island cars for folks on that list.

 

Please take a look and enjoy.

 

Steve Hile
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